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any employee who speaks poorly of Rick Owens publicly or privately is made to sit on a metal uncomfortable chair in a dark chamber listening to music that alternates between romantic era classical music and abrasive industrial music until they come out looking like a ninja alien. we do a similar thing if someone speaks ill of Toyo except they're made to sit in an almost period correct 1950s bedroom complete with asbestos in the drywall and made to listen to rockabilly until they come out wearing a full denim tux. we take things very seriously.7 points
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Update on my 132s, they have been washed four times now i believe and worn close to four months. Got bitten by a german shepherd a couple days ago, fortunately not hurt badly but the dog did tear a good hole in the left thigh. You can see how little the indigo has faded compared to the fresh hem scrap i patched it with. In the mountains of Veracruz, super beautiful and not too hot this time of year! Riding south this morning:2 points
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Looks like someone needs more time in the chamber of dark tears.2 points
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The very short and simple answer to this is that brands like Rick Owens have a larger margin in place for both themselves AND their retailers, plus they spend a bit more on hardware/tags/packaging compared to your average Japanese denim brand. Those three things combined are the reason the prices are so high, without getting into the details of it, there's not much more to it.2 points
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Genuine question here. I think we’ve been pushed a message over the years via retailers such as Self Edge that Japanese ‘repro’ or heritage style brands such as the Flat Head, Iron Heart, Warehouse, Samurai, etc (plus others like Mister Freedom) are the pinnacle of craftsmanship and quality materials for denim, sweatshirts, flannels, work shirts, etc. This is why they are so expensive compared with the general dross worn by the average mall or high street consumer. Prices that many would baulk at and I’m sure have caused some folk to underplay the real cost of an item to their partners, parents, friends. Obviously, those of us on this forum will not be fazed by this kind of thing! Anyway, if that is the case, what’s the justification for example, for Rick Owens jeans being priced at $800-1200 compared to $300-400 for premium Japanese brands or $1200 for a Rick Owens flannel compared with $300-400 for other Self Edge brands? Do the Rick Owens ones have even better materials and higher standards of (Japanese) finishing/craftsmanship? After all, these appear to be very similar items in terms of both design and fabric. I assume that the retailer is probably just making its standard mark-up so the price is dictated by the brand. Is the higher price a surcharge for that unique sense of humour (even though I think the Self Edge range is at the more serious end) or non-standard patterning or is it just what’s to be expected for an upmarket designer brand, even for their more mainstream collections?2 points
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It took me a little bit to understand the humor in a lot of Rick Owens' stuff but it's one of the more fun brands where a lot of the designs are intentionally humorous in all sorts of ways. I mean how you can create this sweatshirt and not think it's funny? Coming from my experience where I haven't really change the way I dress in the last 15 years and I still tend to lean more towards the simple very "normal" looking clothes for the most part, it's been really a eye opening experience to learn more about brands outside of the ones I knew well. I've been fortunate enough now to have spent the last 5-6 years going to showrooms for all the self edge brands and it's really interesting to spend days looking and discussing SDA, flat head, samurai, iron heart, etc and then (often times on the same days) go into showrooms with brands like Rick Owens, devoa, rigards, the viridi-anne, motiv, etc. While obviously atheistically they seem like that they have nothing in common, they actually all share very similar viewpoints in how much they pay attention to fabrics, treatment or lack of treatment of the materials, and the really intricate understanding of how something should be constructed. I think of it like two sides of the same coin where you have one side with brands that are more conservative and/or rigid when to comes to deviating from the source material and the love and passion for what they do comes from staying close to the originals and just making their best version of that and then flip over to the other side where you have a group of brands that understand the source material and history but find interest and joy in deviating and pushing designs in different ways. Like with all genres of clothing brands/styles, there are a lot of brands that I think are no good and are actually shit but I think at least for me, I've got this reinvigorated love for this stuff and it's helped me feel less serious and defensive when I see styles that deviate from the norm. While I still love seeing another version of a Type I and straight leg jean in a deep indigo denim, it's a nice balance to then also experience brands that make something a little more out there but still made as well as the stuff I'm used to wearing. Some would say this is the Rick Owens of burgers. (it looks delicious)2 points
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hello mate I'm alright. Entertained as ever by your exploits. You need your own channel! Been trying to avoid being drawn back in. Hope you're doing well. Loved the garden makeover.1 point
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Saw this Stay Brave book around Instagram recently. A collection of vintage 501XX by Tsuyoshi Kusanagi. Basically l am curious to know the contents of the book, especially the 1922 501XX collection. I want to know how good/detailed the images are, also with the possibility of it being dual language (Japanese/English) - again just going by the pics. I'm just interested in any more intel on this publication so just putting it out there as l'm not the most internet-ready person but there are peeps with skills here which may help?? Thanks in advance1 point
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I think you've forgot to take the coat hanger out @youngofthesoonest .. but i get it It's a good looking outfit for someone working in the fashion industry, no good in my leaky workshop (lifestyle is the driving force behind everything i wear) what i get less is is the grey RO flannel which could work for me but it's $1335 and looks no different to a vintage Woolrich flannel i bought for £18, i think, if you're going to splurge, you might as well buy a statement piece if you can pull it off.. unlike the dude on the previous page.. his outfit just screams intervention order I also appreciate that SE is a retailer, your success depends on the sale of your goods, we wouldn't expect any SE staff to be entirely objective.. like the car salesperson who uses words like fun or quirky when what they really mean is unattractive.. it's lucky that you like RO clothing because you have to believe in it to sell it.. something i could never do... I'd get sacked from SE in no time1 point
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I appreciate your candid response Kiya and understand its brevity. I didn’t actually expect you to answer due to brand confidentiality etc but dangled it out there for anyone with a knowledge of this type of retail to chime in. So thank you.1 point
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Interesting … Every pair of FW denims I’ve owned (and that’s not a small amount) have stretched at least 1 inch through normal wear - some of the heavier used pairs will be nearly 2 inches … although those pairs are pretty much wrecked1 point
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Better that than putting on $1000 of Rick Owens wares to shitpost about jeans…you’d still be 3/4 naked1 point
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I have never been outside Superdenim, so I have no idea what Superfuture would mean to an outsider. I regularly see Acronym at the top of the homepage, so I always thought it was a forum that catered to high fashion with some denim sprinkled in the cracks. I can safely say that my fashion sense encompasses a relatively large range of styles, one that doesn't really include "triple denim" nor "goth crop." I could say I'm an outsider to many fits in the denim community but I appreciate all of it, though. Just because someone's style wouldn't fit me doesn't mean I don't think it looks good on them.1 point
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Putting on 1000 dollars of heritage workwear today to work from home and shitpost about rick owens.1 point
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Fun Fact: Rick Owens is one of the only two large fashion houses in the world still owned by the founders, the other being Comme de Garcons.1 point
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Just joined the Denime thanks to @beautiful_FrEaK who happen to sell exact my size! Been eyeing Denime for years and happy to finally have a pair. Haven't decided yet if I should do a hot soak or just go for a 30degree wash low cycle. The denim is really nice and looking forward to see how they develop over time. It's Denime 221 with denim from Kurabo Mill1 point
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I've never been able to buy any clothing from MF because it is all too slim fitting for my build, but I did buy this tote in - I think - 2015 - during a trip to Los Angeles, before I moved here from the UK in 2020. Just dug it out and washed it. Here are some photos. Straight outta the wash and some post-dry details. Slightly obvious as to which side rubbed against my torso during daily use for a few years.1 point
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When my kid was a toddler he would pull all the books off the bookshelf so i boxed everything up which i didn't want to get trashed and shoved them in my parents attic, i still don't have the space for it all so there it's stayed.. I'm pretty sure 2003 was the first ever catalogue SC produced to showcase the release of their new range with the SC product codes Enjoy, you'll not find this elsewhere on the webz.. The 2003 catalogue wouldn't fit in the scanner due to thickness so i've had to bulldog clip it open and photograph it. Hawaii Okinawa Y'all owe me a pint for this.. it took me fkin ages with my cranky old scanner.. 2006 Catalogue There was a period (post 2007) when existing stock of SC-47s were being sold with the arcs ripped out by retailers.. this was followed by a period where they were being manufactured without arcs but they still had the red tab.. then the tabs were being cut by retailers.. then SC started making them without tabs or arcs, as we see today.. There must have been constant lawsuit murmurings within the denim industry .. the old Surgarcane MP jeans had very Levi's-esque arcs.. albeit they were still broken (Kiya has commented in the past, on another forum that he thinks the breaking of the arcs was an attempt by SC to distance themselves from Levi's arcs) this is probably the best explanation i've heard as to why.. but if so, they were worried about repercussions as far back as the 1980s.. As we know, SC distanced themselves entirely from Levi / Wrangler / Lee for the 1998 series of jeans (this could be down to concerns over legal action) .. then they took the bold move to resurrect arcs and tabs in 2003.. this must have ruffled a few feathers at Levi's because by 2006 the 1947s 1955s and 1966 repros had their arcs omitted from the catalogue even though they were still being made and sold with arcs. If you look closely at the thumbnail, they've tried and failed to cover them with the guarantee ticket.. this catalogue would have been printed 18mths before the 2007 lawsuit You're Welcome1 point
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Some close up comparison of the 30s jacket and 50s jeans. The 30s denim starts off super rigid but is breaking in pretty quickly. I've been wearing it almost all day, every day for the last couple of weeks, and it's shedding indigo dye from the sleeves all over the counter where I sit to work 😆1 point
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