In Defense of Tapering: Conversations about Consumer Autonomy

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Biggest point for me against tapering:

I have (or don't know any) no tailor around here whom I would trust to alter my jeans. If i had the opportunety like Denim Doctors in LA I might think different about it. But so far I'm happy with most of my fits and like to change every now and then.

Reasons why I said "don't taper" to laxlife124 are:

- he has no acces to a a tailor he trust to so hemming and then ask for tapering?

- he is quite young and has shown a variety of opinions regarding what fit he wants. If he wants to taper now I really think he has a total different opinion about that one week later (please don't take it too offensive) and then he might regret his decision about tapering

[Paul T]

I know there are a lot of people saying, "Ohh do what you want with your jeans." "What someone does with their jeans is their own business." etc. etc. etc.

Well, I for one, say, "Do to your jeans only what I would do to my jeans." or better, "Don't do to your jeans what I wouldn't do to my jeans." or even further, "I forbid anyone to do to their jeans what they want to do to them. Please ask me for advice first, then I will give my advice and then you must follow it." This way everybody on sufu can look the way I think they should look. The WAYWT posts could all be coordinated properly.

Alright? Settled.

Scientists from Faraday to JJ Thomson, Shockley to Berners-Lee, all labored so we could have access to hidden wisdom such as this. I am so grateful to them.

[DrMoBueno]

I think I just fulfilled that want of yours.

Which want?

The one where you taper your RoyXCones?

A really nice taper would solve that cuff problem of yours.

[laxlife1234]

Biggest point for me against tapering:

I have (or don't know any) no tailor around here whom I would trust to alter my jeans. If i had the opportunety like Denim Doctors in LA I might think different about it. But so far I'm happy with most of my fits and like to change every now and then.

Reasons why I said "don't taper" to laxlife124 are:

- he has no acces to a a tailor he trust to so hemming and then ask for tapering?

- he is quite young and has shown a variety of opinions regarding what fit he wants. If he wants to taper now I really think he has a total different opinion about that one week later (please don't take it too offensive) and then he might regret his decision about tapering

I never even said I wanted to taper haha, I was just asking in the heavyweight thread if we could taper. I mean I never wanted to, but even after thinking it through I am most likely going to grow out of the jeans, so making them an even simmer fit wouldn't make sense. I do love the fit of my S500's though, IF I were to even bother getting them any form of tailored, its only to hem, or make the leg opening slightly smaller. And to be honest, I am more than satisfied with my pair

I don't know how my post in the heavyweight started this whole discussion though haha.

[Atzec]

IF I were to even bother getting them any form of tailored, its only to hem, or make the leg opening slightly smaller.

making the leg opening smaller = tapering

[laxlife1234]

^^ true, my bad. I meant like a full leg taper. Although I'm no tailor so I would probably have to make the whole leg skinner to make the leg opening smaller, and now that I think about that, disregard that.

[klue]

in the case of hemming, you need a tailor with a chainstitch machine or you sacrifice roping,

regular lockstitch, rolled and pulled by hand

[rnrswitch]

Scientists from Faraday to JJ Thomson, Shockley to Berners-Lee, all labored so we could have access to hidden wisdom such as this. I am so grateful to them.

As long as somebody recognizes that.

[laxlife1234]

as this might be partially directed at me:

you´re taking this way to far, stacks.

i just told laxlife to not taper his jeans, cause i thought his would be good after a hem. ok,maybe i over emphasized, but this was only drected at that one guy´s samurais. i don´t have anything against tapering in general and had it done on a pair of 007s myself. wouldn´t do it again, though- will rather buy jeans that fit like i want them to.

imo everybody should do what they want with their jeans. i just thought that laxlife´s fit was good without a taper.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was actually my fault. It is. I should have never posted anything on tapering, or thought of tapering, this is what I started (not you, me).

[ronaldlsh]

regular lockstitch, rolled and pulled by hand

How did u do that? Curious...

[ah_long]

funny how no one said a thing when self edge has the shorts festival where they change your jeans into jorts...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

because I totally forgot about that...

and that's just extreme hemming, no tapering

[Paul T]

How did u do that? Curious...

It's simple enough - the Union Special pulls the hem, as it does its job - look at the seam within the selvage and you'll see it's offset by a few mm. If you pull the hem around with a normal lockstitch or any other chainstitch machine you can get much the same look

[klue]

If you pull the hem around with a normal lockstitch or any other chainstitch machine you can get much the same look

as long as you roll not fold your hem

[SwedeAlex]

So this is what happens when a few guys/gals has opinions on tapering...a THREAD FOR IT?! C´mon!!!

To each is own. Taper? WHO CARES? Not to taper? WHO GIVES A...?

[mikecch]

So this is what happens when a few guys/gals has opinions on tapering...a THREAD FOR IT?! C´mon!!!

To each is own. Taper? WHO CARES? Not to taper? WHO GIVES A...?

^ Makes for superfluous discussion for grown men obsessed with pants.

Why not?

[laxlife1234]

^ Makes for superfluous discussion for grown men obsessed with pants.

Why not?

AND those who are still growing

[mikecch]

^ You can be an honorary man

[laxlife1234]

^Sounds like a deal.

[Stacks]

So this is what happens when a few guys/gals has opinions on tapering...a THREAD FOR IT?! C´mon!!!

Ugh stacks quit clogging up my denim discussion forum with threads discussing denim.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some important posting to attend to:

Artist Denim

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posted by SwedeAlex

Hey Gun! That´s some GREAT GREAT denim!!! I still...

Hey Gun! That´s some GREAT GREAT denim!!! I still love my pair but if you´re making to order...I prob. can´t resist come spring;)

Keep them coming man!

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 259

Self Edge x Dry Bones x Superfuture x Styleforum = SEXDBXSXS12

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posted by SwedeAlex

DAMN! These are nice! Would have loved to get me...

DAMN! These are nice! Would have loved to get me pair but can´t afford them right now! Awesome jeans though! Would rep...

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 20,674

Shoes that look better with age...

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posted by SwedeAlex

Now, that´s some WORN shoes! Swdish: Jävlar vad...

Now, that´s some WORN shoes! Swdish: Jävlar vad dem va slitna! Grymt att använda ett par till de ser ut såhär!

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 13,998

What Are You Wearing Today (Denim Version)

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posted by SwedeAlex

Dope DOPE Busters! Would love to get me some but...

Dope DOPE Busters! Would love to get me some but I can´t afford it right now and I´m working on a couple of other pairs...anyways dope fit!

lowercase CAPITAL lowercase (exclamation point) generic tangentially related comment (ellipses) compliment (exclamation point)

[kit99bar]

I actually LOL'D in real life, funny stuff....cheers!

[SwedeAlex]

Oh, my bad for being nice to people and telling them they dress good or beat the shit out of their boots, or showing artisans love for their denim...that I actually bought.

But staring a thread about tapering is a FANTASTIC idea and I'm so sad I did not come up with this GREAT idea for a thread...

That's all STACKS...lil' b****

Ugh stacks quit clogging up my denim discussion forum with threads discussing denim.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some important posting to attend to:

Artist Denim

views: 34,886

posted by SwedeAlex

Hey Gun! That´s some GREAT GREAT denim!!! I still...

Hey Gun! That´s some GREAT GREAT denim!!! I still love my pair but if you´re making to order...I prob. can´t resist come spring;)

Keep them coming man!

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 259

Self Edge x Dry Bones x Superfuture x Styleforum = SEXDBXSXS12

views: 260

posted by SwedeAlex

DAMN! These are nice! Would have loved to get me...

DAMN! These are nice! Would have loved to get me pair but can´t afford them right now! Awesome jeans though! Would rep...

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 20,674

Shoes that look better with age...

views: 2,436,150

posted by SwedeAlex

Now, that´s some WORN shoes! Swdish: Jävlar vad...

Now, that´s some WORN shoes! Swdish: Jävlar vad dem va slitna! Grymt att använda ett par till de ser ut såhär!

forum: superdenim 2 hours ago replies: 13,998

What Are You Wearing Today (Denim Version)

views: 1,930,563

posted by SwedeAlex

Dope DOPE Busters! Would love to get me some but...

Dope DOPE Busters! Would love to get me some but I can´t afford it right now and I´m working on a couple of other pairs...anyways dope fit!

lowercase CAPITAL lowercase (exclamation point) generic tangentially related comment (ellipses) compliment (exclamation point)

[goki]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7215/nnfe.jpg

picture of my n&f weird guys I had tapered from the inside seam by a tailor at about 9 months old. (they're 13 months in that picture)

at the time I realized that they stacked terribly with most of the shoes I wear so I decided to slim them down... they still faded the same afterwards and I've seen no problems after said tapering.

now in retrospect I wish I had decided to do this earlier in, but when it comes down to it it doesn't really make that much difference.

so I'm pro-taper I guess. If you're gonna spend money on jeans (and be seen in them almost every single day) you might as well make sure they fit, right?

[DoitsuJin]

swede - looks like a big contradiction...

great thread, i'm of the opinion about the importance of the designer's intent but i've never been one to force a certain option on anybody.

[raspberries]