gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 12, 2008 Welcome all to the new and improved Samurai thread! Check out the existing thread for more info. I'll update this post on occasion with news, events, etc. (image from www.samurai-j.com) Happy 10th Samurai. Be patient while we organize the first few posts. -GG LINKS Website - http://www.samurai-j.com/ Motor Club - http://www.samurai-c.com/ SOURCES ONLY source for SamuraI in North America: Blue in Green Soho - www.blueingreensoho.com (note that back pocket stitching and tabs will NOT be present on the jeans in this store (some exceptions apply)) Gordon is extremely helpful (and patient). This is your only chance of buying jeans and having a remote chance of returning them if they don't fit. BiG offers a One-wash service if you don't want to soak your jeans yourself. They also offer a chainstitching service to shorten the inseam length. Japan: Most of the stores in Japan DO NOT ship outside of Japan. For information on proxies and shipping, see the Proxy Thread or the Options for Buying Japanese Goods thread. 2nd - ships internationally, but restrictions apply. Jeans, Jackets, Other. D-Stock Americaya Klax-on Hong Kong: Take5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE ONLY OPTION FOR ACQUIRING SAMURAI JEANS WITH BACK-POCKET STITCHING AND A RED TAB IS TO ORDER THEM FROM JAPAN*. BiG DOES NOT* SELL MODELS WITH THESE FEATURES. *with the exception of lee-style reproductions and certain models with low-visibility stitching ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 12, 2008 SIZING ADVICE S5000 - Size down 1 for regular fit, down 2 for slim fit. For larger sizes, see this post. S0500 - size down 1 for slim(ish fit, true to size for a more regular fit. S710 - true to size for slim fit, down 1 for very slim fit S510 - true to size (see additional info below) USA (sz. 28-33) - true to size USA (sz. 34-38) - size up 2-3 S7000 - true to size (see additional info below) SAMURAI FIT DESCRIPTIONS Description of rise is only in comparison to other Samurai models. S51019oz - "relaxed" fit; straight leg; highrise S51021oz - "relaxed" fit; straight leg; highrise S0510XX - "relaxed" fit; straight leg; highrise S510XX-AI-N - same fit as other 510 models S0500XX - slim fit; midrise; slightly tapered leg S513XXBL - bell bottom S710XX19oz - slim fit; tapered leg; midrise S512XXBC - slim fit; bootcut S5000VX - 66-inspired cut; straight leg; lowrise S5000BK - same fit as S5000; straight leg; lowrise S3000VX - repro cut; loosest Samurai cut; highrise; straight leg S7000VX - repro cut; one pocket S0110XJ - similar fit to S5000; straight leg; lowrise S0120XJ - same fit as S0110, but with bootcut S0210XJ - same fit as S01101 GA0510LXXII - ladies straight leg fit USA Model - S5000 cut; low rise, cinchback 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 12, 2008 SAMURAI SERIES S0510XX - 15oz. denim; also S0510XXX; '47 501-inspired cut S0510XXII - 14oz. Zimbabwe cotton; "deadstock blue" colour (yellowed); blank backpockets S0510XXIII - 3rd generation changed to 15oz.; arcuates added S0510XXIIIP - oversize; 50" waist; 15oz. denim; screen printed S0510XXV - 18oz. denim; tiger selvage (black & yellow); commemorating the Osaka and Kobe victory 2003 S0510XX-LTD - 2nd anniversary commemoration model; 2005 limited edition; ® red tab; no arcuate; aged doughnut buttons S0510XX-66(II) - 66 model; same denim as S5010XX; presently second generation; black arcuates S510XX66-RR - 2009 Limited Edition; 15.6oz. Texas cotton; no arcuates S0510XX-CP - beige S510XX19oz - 19oz version of S0510XX S510XX21oz - 21oz. version of S510XX S510XX-AI-N - 17oz. natural indigo; rope dyed; gold-plated buttons; same cut as S0510XX; 2005 edition here S510XX-RR - Ltd. Edition; 15 oz. Texas cotton; red tab with ®; no arcuates; aged donut buttons S510XX24oz - Ltd. Edition; 24 oz. S0511XS(II) - 14oz. denim; slim fit; straight leg; zip fly S0511XS-CP - zip fly version of S0510XX-CP S0511XS-HC - hickory stripe version of S0511XS S0520XXX - S510 cut; 2000 ltd. ed.; 14oz. denim; ® tab S710XX 19oz - 19oz. denim; slim fit (same as S0505XX); black arcuates S0505XX - zip fly version of the S0510XX-66 S512XXBC - boot cut; same 19oz. denim as S510XX; presently 3rd generation S513XXBL - bell bottom; 15oz. Texas coton denim; comes one-wash S0710BK - 2003 model; 14oz. Zimbabwe cotton; skinny cut; donut buttons SK2003HC - S0510XX66 cut; hickory stripe; donut buttons S2000(III) - "great war model"; same denim as S0510XX (15oz.); presently 3rd generation; independent coin pocket without use of rivets; 1st generation - S2000; S0500XX - 15oz. Texas cotton denim; tapered leg S0310XX - Newest model; cut looser that the S3000VX; 15oz. Texas cotton denim S0611-AI - Evisu inspired painted arcuates (white, yellow or red); natural indigo; zip fly S0521BC - bootcut; zip fly; 14oz. denim S0610LX - lowrise, slim fit, 15oz. Texas denim; black arcuates S505XX II - lowrise 710 fit; 15oz. Texas demin, black arcuates; zip fly ZERO SERIES S5000VX - 17oz "Zero" denim; straight leg; donut buttons S5000BK - black version of S5000VX; originally a 2006 limited edition (seen here) S5000CX - sulfur-dyed (khaki/grey) version of S5000VX S5000KA - 2005 limited edition; 17oz. persimmon tannin-dyed denim; gold-plated donut buttons; 3mm saddle leather patch S500021oz - 2007 ltd. edition S3000VX - "great war model" (WWII cut); same denim as S5000VX; painted arcuates S3000BK - new 2007 model; black version of S3000VX S7000VX - 17oz. Zero denim; 1800's style; suspender buttons; high coin pocket; cinchback; solo backpocket; doughnut buttons; black arcuate; originally a 2004 ltd. ed. (seen here) S4000VX - 14oz. Zero denim; bootcut JIN SERIES S0110XJ - Jin collection; Lee 101B repro; 17oz. lefthand twill; bartacked backpockets; crotch rivet; originally a 2005 limited edition S0120XJ - Jin collection; boot cut version of S0110XJ; zipper fly; fly selvage; bartacked backpockets; crotch rivet; originally a 2005 limited edition S0130XJ - Jin Collection; cinchback; 2006 limited edition; bartacked backpockets; crotch rivet; looser (thicker) cut than the S0110XJ S5110VXJ - Jin & Zero denim collaboration; commemorating the Osaka and Kobe victory 2005; Jin backpockets; Zero style arcuates; S0110XJ cut; plaid pocketbags; alternating Jin/Zero-style buttons; S0210XJ - Wrangler inspired backpockets and leather patch; exposed reverse-rivets; same 17oz. lefthand twill denim as S0110XJ series; off-centre beltloop; black Lee-style backpocket stitching; felled outseam GEISHA SERIES S0510LXX - the first model of GEISHA; now called GA0510LXX with minor changes S0510LXX-66 - old geisha; 66 cut S0505LXX - old geisha; zip fly verison GA0510LXX(II) - new geisha; changed to 16oz "weak tension"; presently 2nd generation GA0513LXX - bell bottom GEISHA; backpocket-style frontpockets; 16oz. denim; pink selvage; no yoke; plaid pocketbags WEB COLLECTION/OTHER S526XX - 15oz. lefthand twill denim; doughnut buttons; exposed rivets; cinchback; crotch rivet; black arcuates; straight leg; 2004 limited edition S526XXII - 15oz. lefthand twill Texas cotton denim; crotch rivet; exposed backpocket rivets; black acuates; cinchback S634XX(II) - 2004 limited edition; 15oz. denim; cinchback; vintage/repro cut; suspender buttons; donut buttons; looser (thicker) cut than S510 series; currently second generation S634XX-AI - 2007 ltd. edition; 17oz. natural indigo; vintage/repro cut; suspender buttons; cinchback S0510-CO - corduroy; available in beige, navy & light grey S041-CP - 17oz. selvage sulphur-dyed cotton chinos/khakis; offset beltloop; 4-hole shirt-style buttons S2K1-DUC - cotton duck pants; available in blue or green 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 12, 2008 SAMURAI MOTOR CLUB SM5000GT-A - 1st SAC jean; 17oz. Zero denim; selvage hammer loop; no coinpocket; exposed "ufo" rivets; highrise; "000" stenciled on pocketbags of 1st production models SM5000GT-R - 19oz. denim; cinchback; exposed "ufo" rivets; 70's car-print pocketbags (comes with matching cushion); "GTB001" stenciled on pocketbags of 1st production models SM230BP-ST - 10oz. stone-washed hickory stripe cotton; horizontal striped backpockets SM230BP - cotton "duck" pants; straight leg; triple-stitched stresspoint; available in green and gold SM310DX-P - 17oz. selvage herringbone workpants; selvage hammerloop; 2 sidepockets; triplestitched stress points; exposed "ufo" rivets SM310DX-HC - 17oz. selvage hickory-striped workpants; selvage hammerloop; 2 sidepockets; triplestitched stress points; exposed "ufo" rivets; starter-flag pocketbags SM310DX-ST - same as SM310DX-HC, but with reversed hickory-striped material JACKETS S0555VX - cinchback; front pleat; no pocket flap; Type I S0551XX - 15oz. Texas cotton denim; cinchback; front pleat; Type I S0552XX - 15oz. Texas cotton denim; front pleat; Type II S0552CX - 2006 ltd. ed.; sulphur-dyed; Type II S0553XX - 15 oz. Texas cotton deim; Type III S0553XX-LTD - same as S0553 but with embroidery SM019B - Auto Club; 17oz. selvage herringbone; zip front S101XX19OZ - 19oz. denim; fur collar; pleat front; zip front; ribbed cuffs S102XX - 15oz. denim; zip front; wool flannel blanked lining; ribbed cuffs S0111XJ - Jin series; Lee-inspired; 17oz. left-hand twill denim; 2005 ltd. ed. S0222XJ - Wrangler-inspired; side cinches; front pleats; 17oz. left-hand twill; 2007 ltd. ed. COLLABORATIONS S5000XX-2ND- - ltd. edition collaboration with 2nd USA Model - ltd. ed. collaboration with Blue In Green; 15oz. deadstock denim (formerly used for S0505); S5000 cut; cinchback; plaid pocketbags; red herringbone backpocket lining Momotaro Lot K-091 - 14oz. organic, hank-dyed cotton Delbombers M310XX - 19oz. denim; red pocket bags; buttons from various models used on fly; S5000 cut 2nd - S510VX - Zero denim; commemorating 2nd's 10th anniversary; anniversary patch 2nd - S634VX - another 10th annivesary model 2nd - S526VX - another 10th annivesary model Izumi - S510 - 510 model; celebrating Izumi's 35th anniversary S5000WX - dual patches; dual tabs; two-tone selvage (red & blue); silver stitch arcuates S0510WX - 19oz. denim; two-tone selvage (red & blue); white tab S0710WX - 15oz. denim; two-tone selvage (red & blue); white tab S0210EZ0 - Unique Jeans collaboration 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 12, 2008 Additional Sizing Info (courtesy of dino might!) 710- true to waist size for nice, manly, slim/straight silhouette (HIGHEST RECOMMENDED METHOD). one down if you have more of a skinnier-than-average-build (model chic). two only if youre nuts and want skintight 19oz jeans to hold you up when youre tired of standing on your own (SERIOUSLY NOT RECOMMENDED) (this all based on the lot 10/tagged size=raw waist size jeans) ***ATTN: SUFU FASHIONISTAS- IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR A SKINNY FASHION FORWARD SLOUCHY JEAN TO WEAR WITH YOUR SWEET HIGHTOPS AND LAYERED RO FISHNET TANKS THIS IS NOT THE JEAN FOR YOU*** (neither are any other samurais for that matter..) 0505- (same as above, same exact cut) 510- true to size for classic "501 esque" straight leg silhouette, not slim, not baggy. one down will still fit nice in the legs, though waist might be less comfortable than you like, still very possible however. affirmation [thanks sonagi] "if your true waist is a 33, i suggest sizing down one or simply sticking with a 33... I dont think you have to worry about sizing down too much." 7000- true to size for the roomier/slouchier classic workwear cinch back look. going one down is very possible and will assure the pants will stay up after some stretching (since theres no belt loops) in addition to slimming down the legs a touch, will look a little less authentic however 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fndmybetterhalf 13,798 Posted March 13, 2008 thank god for this. with the recent rush of newbies rushing into the samurai thred, that thread was getting trashed...now wiat a page or two, we'll have newbies asking sizing questions and fit questions. if i wear a sz 30 in APC's what should i get in the 710s?! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AF Dan 27,470 Posted March 13, 2008 Thumbs up to Gimme x 2 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heBAY 24,601 Posted March 13, 2008 x-post...but I would say the USA's are "Slim S5000 Cut"...at least before you hit 33 (or is it 34?). The cut acts as if you sized down 1 already on the S5000. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 13, 2008 x-post...but I would say the USA's are "Slim S5000 Cut"...at least before you hit 33 (or is it 34?). The cut acts as if you sized down 1 already on the S5000. Agreed. Theetruscan mentioned alternative sizing on the larger sizes...anyone else have a pair above 34(ish)? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rome1 115,951 Posted March 13, 2008 jus subscribing... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panda-san 6,678 Posted March 13, 2008 Agreed. Theetruscan mentioned alternative sizing on the larger sizes...anyone else have a pair above 34(ish)? I have a 38 in the USA model. I had BiG wash them and chainstitch to a 34.5 inseam. Following my own machine wash and machine dry, they shrank further to a 35 waist and 33.5 inseam. Now that I've worn them a few times and they're draping better, fit pics: 5'10" 205lbs Added fill-flash in editing to bring out the detail. And for what it's worth, the buckleback in no way interferes with my ability to wear my Sugar Cane belt. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anuish143 30 Posted March 13, 2008 Rep for the thread! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monook 166 Posted March 13, 2008 now someone should make a pre/post soak measurement chart, seeing as how BiG is lacking one 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweeds 691,351 Posted March 13, 2008 great work here gimmegimme, definitely +rep. i've locked the other two samurai threads and directed everything into this one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raii 8,332 Posted March 13, 2008 i just hot soaked my 710s and they are so tight that i can only put on the final button. will post fit pics once its dry 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PERISH. 13 Posted March 13, 2008 SAM 0500, almost 2 months. 1 hot soak. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
demarco 187 Posted March 13, 2008 Rep for fellow toronto dude. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dino might 1,253,912 Posted March 13, 2008 anyone hear anything on your 710bk or 5000 21oz??? whattafuckkkkkkk 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arem 80,789 Posted March 13, 2008 I pre-ordered a pair of 710bk from BiG, word is they'll be here closer to the end of the month than the middle as first reported. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dino might 1,253,912 Posted March 13, 2008 hm, i got mine from take 5, im getting damn impatient werent the 5000s supposed to be here last month? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anuish143 30 Posted March 13, 2008 Does anyone know when the next production of GA0510LXX II will be made? They are sold out everywhere 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denimformytummy 43,906 Posted March 13, 2008 is S710BK out in the japanese market yet? if it is, can someone please let me know where I can buy from online rakuten stores? Thanks in advance 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tootaloot 1,001 Posted March 13, 2008 Got a pair of 710's a couple weeks ago. Tagged 31, but from the 10th run, so they were down to 29 after a hot soak. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 13, 2008 ^^ Those look great. I have a 38 in the USA model. I had BiG wash them and chainstitch to a 34.5 inseam. Following my own machine wash and machine dry, they shrank further to a 35 waist and 33.5 inseam. Now that I've worn them a few times and they're draping better.... Good info Panda. So would you say sizing up 3 would be ideal (or maybe 2?). now someone should make a pre/post soak measurement chart, seeing as how BiG is lacking one Not a bad plan...but that would be a lot of work to get measurements for every size of every model. I was hoping we could just get general sizing advice first, and maybe expand to this down the road. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blm14 599,709 Posted March 13, 2008 I usually wear 38 or 36 in most jeans and I got S5000VX in size 38. I wish samurai made a size 37, because after 6 or so weeks of wear I can pull them off without unbuttoning, whereas just after a wash it's a struggle to get the top button done. For the bigger guys interested in the VX denim - get your regular size because the jeans will stretch and shrink continuously as you wash them. My experience anyways... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmegimme 62,968 Posted March 13, 2008 ^ Thanks. Link added to your post. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest youkinorn Posted March 13, 2008 Anyone have a good idea how much/how quickly the S0505XX denim on the USAs will stretch? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panda-san 6,678 Posted March 13, 2008 ^^ Those look great.Good info Panda. So would you say sizing up 3 would be ideal (or maybe 2?). That's hard to say, since sizing up 2 is what I did to get this fit. I normally buy whatever size will give me a 36 waist post-wash. For my lot 9 510's, that meant buying a tagged 36. For these, it meant buying a tagged 38. So basically, sizing up two gave me a regular fit. Sizing up 3 or (yikes) 4 might not be unrealistic if you want these to have an antifit, which I gather some people do from all the talk in the previous thread about the buckleback demanding a loose fit. I think that should mostly hold true for the larger sizes, but I don't know how it would work for the smaller sizes. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatjones911 341 Posted March 13, 2008 Tootaloot, are those post soak pics? They look good. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littlebigman 11,504 Posted March 13, 2008 s710. size 29 lot 10 measuring ~29" prewash. i'm 5'6" and 125lbs. hot soaked and machine dried. not hemmed. had them since december but i'm just a weekend warrior for now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites