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Awesome. Nice to see the comparison between the different denims.  I have a pair of the jeans on the way that I found on Mercari - I'm hoping they're the same denim as my S06 jacket (which I think is LF44) but I'm not sure.

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11 minutes ago, Lorcan said:

Awesome. Nice to see the comparison between the different denims.  I have a pair of the jeans on the way that I found on Mercari - I'm hoping they're the same denim as my S06 jacket (which I think is LF44) but I'm not sure.

Looking forward to seeing them once you get them in. Post some photos and I might be able to help!
Honestly it's pretty hard to track down specific details on each denim since he doesn't directly sell to us international folks.

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28 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

How are his patterns? What are the measurements?

Posted the pre and post wash measurements for the LF44 model previously, reposting them below.

LF44
Unwashed
Waist: 38 in.
Front rise: 14 in.
Back rise: 17.75 in. 
Thigh: 14.5 in.
Knee: 11 in.
Hem: 10 in.
Inseam: 32 in. 

Warm soaked for an hour and then a quick trip through the washing machine on cold / gentle cycle.
Waist: 36 in.
Front rise: 13.25 in.
Back rise: 17 in.
Thigh: 14 in.
Knee: 10.5 in.
Hem: 9.5 in.
Inseam: 30 in.

I haven't washed the SO02 yet, but I'll likely get around to it this weekend and will post pre and post wash measurements.
I'll also get around to some fit pics, been recovering from a bug the last few days so I haven't been wearing jeans at all lately. :wacko2:
I find that I really like the fit of the LF44 pair: ample rise, plenty of room in the legs, accessible front pocket openings. They just feel like a solid pair of jeans.
The LF44 denim feels much more dense and fluffy, while the SO02 feels more irregular (pre-wash, at least) and has a bit more nep (especially on the weft).

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Quick fit pics of the LF44 pair, haven't bothered with cuffing them but probably couldn't hurt.
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Posted
30 minutes ago, MJF9 said:

Anyone copping this 😉?  It was shared by a friend :)

I might be careless with my money at times, but I'm not that stupid. :laugh:

Posted

These look great Broark -- thanks for posting.  Something about his pics and details make these tempting.  Also interesting are his comments about dimensionality.  Reminds me a bit of photography forum discussions regarding 'Leica glow', but I think I get it.  The fit of a pair of jeans is not predicted perfectly by the standard measurements.

Posted

That does look like the LF44 denim, nice pickup!
I still haven't gotten around to washing my SO02 pair yet, been trying to practice some delayed gratification. I'll wash them once it cools off maybe.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Anyone going to be in Osaka on September 21st?
Slash is releasing a tux at the Samurai shop, he's done these pairs in the past where he uses Samurai's denim and hardware.
Would love a pair, I tried on some of the S2000HX (which I think use the same 15 oz. denim) but talked myself out of them.
Here's a link to the Instagram post, and the Osaka shop has a few other posts referencing the previous releases.
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Posted

Yeah those look sweet. I’ve always loved how Samurai’s denims age, but their standard cuts & detailing have never spoken to me. If I could get in on this run I probably would

Posted
23 hours ago, Broark said:

Would love a pair, I tried on some of the S2000HX (which I think use the same 15 oz. denim) but talked myself out of them.

I actually ended up grabbing a pair of the S2000HX. The vignette about the Slash collaboration made me curious about an Otokogi denim WW2 model and the simplified detailing and cut of the S2000HX looked pretty good (measurements seem very close to Rockets on paper).

I decided that the S2000HX would be far easier to get than the Slash-Samurai collaboration and the Slash inseams that I have seen are far too short for me anyway.

Posted

Well if anyone can make it to Osaka on September 21st I've got first dibs. :laugh:

The S2000HX are very nice. I think the war details are nice and set them apart from most standard Samurai offerings and the cut is properly wide / straight.

  • 3 weeks later...
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@beautiful_FrEaK generally speaking? Yes, I really shouldn't be buying anything right now. :laugh:
But in regards to the Samurai collab this weekend, I might actually have someone who can try to get me a pair.
I'll update this thread accordingly once I know for sure, right now tbd.

So far I'm really enjoying my LF44 pair, been wearing them for about two months so far. I'll try to get some photos up soon.
Also, it looks like there will be some updates to the standard production war model according to this blog post.
If I don't land the Samurai pair I'll likely try to get a standard production war model.
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Will be stoked to see if it comes off with the Samurai model Broark!

1946 SO02 jacket... more pics later when I've given it a wash

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Posted

Sadly it doesn't look like the Samurai pair is meant to be, but that's okay.
Going to keep wearing my LF44 pair for another month or two, then I'll wash and start wearing the SO02 pair once it's a little cooler.
Your jacket looks great @Lorcan! I'm hoping to get one the next time he releases a size 48 online.

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Post wash

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Machine washed at 40C and 1600rpm spin has encouraged the wrinkling (although I think it would have been pronounced however I washed -it had very puckered seams for a raw jacket to begin with)

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Slash's trademark waistband wrinkles

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Different, grainier leather patch compared to my other slash jacket. Hasn't stained the surrounding denim like that one did either (that might have also been my fault running it under the tap when enthusiastically handwashing). Note the XXE...

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Got a larger size 46. First T-back I've owned.

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The Slash pattern grading philosophy in action - it's the same length as my size 42 (which is on top) but wider. Although they had quite different washing regimes so there could be more of a difference.

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Proportionally things are slightly different (ie. the yoke is longer on the 46 relative to the overall length). Fit is still good for me but obviously a bit boxier (can fit a sweatshirt nicely). Probably not an ideal brand if you're very tall (30in inseams on the jeans as well).

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Thread colour is bit different (slightly more orange on 1946 SO02) but doesn't show in photos easily.

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Posted

Haha no problem. Slow Saturday here 😛

1946 SO02 S06XX size 46 (40C machine wash/ high spin cycle):

Shoulder to Shoulder: 52cm

Pit to Pit: c 58.5-59cm (stretchier than the other jacket)

Back length (bottom of collar to hem): 57cm flattening the hem wrinkling out, otherwise nearer 56cm

Sleeve length: 55.5cm

 

1947 LF44 S06XX size 42 (Handwash only):

Shoulder to Shoulder: 50.5cm

Pit to Pit: c 57.5cm

Back length (bottom of collar to hem): 56.5cm

Sleeve length: 59cm

According to the website (google translated) the 1946 is:

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The pattern of the Great War and the pattern after the 1947 are mixed, and it has 47 details, but the rough atmosphere of the Great War remains.

So I assume there are slight differences in cut between the two models.

I forgot to measure before washing but going by jackets listed on his site in the same size- I got just under 9% shrinkage in the chest and shoulders. He doesn't list lengths 😂 On his blog he mentions NP01 denim (which the SO02 evolved from/is a tweaked version of) has around 10% shrinkage Vs the LF44 denim having 8%. I've only got maybe 4% shrinkage out of my LF44 jacket soaking/handwashing. Not planning on ever machine washing it but I guess I'll get a little more out with subsequent soaks.

 As for the Slash sizing philosophy.. you do see vintage T-back jackets that are very short lengths eg. https://vintage-mushroom.net/?pid=179335488. On the other hand you do see them a bit longer too like this one https://vintage-mushroom.net/?pid=176487626. The second one has waistband wrinkles that would make the Slash guy happy.

They also have a non-washed (or hand washed?) size 42 with tag size intact (I love Mushroom) with measurements https://vintage-mushroom.net/?pid=181718719

I think he is trying to replicate vintage size grading more than most brands, but maybe cherry picks the vintage sizing examples to fit his taste in pattern too?

Posted

Wow, that is really short. I think, I had seen some on Mercari with 60cm back length.
The 46 is cut also quite small shoulder and chest wise.
Similar to TCB it seems.

 

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