Denime

[dennnnnnnnn]

Well to answer my own question, I did the hottest soak I could do for an hour then dried in my bathroom with a dehumidifier. Went from 82 to 78cm, which is about where my warehouses are. I was swimming in these things, must be the higher rise. I can’t even image a size down would help.  Any advice?

also would like to mention if anyone is looking for a size 31 I’m going to put these up for sale for what I paid. 

[reubensangwich]

@dennnnnnnnn  Regarding the shrinkage, just the hot soak probably didn't get all the shrinkage out; a proper hot wash with heavy agitation and a spin in the drier would be what I would do if I were looking to shrink them as much as possible. 

Without fit pics or a further description of how the jeans fit everywhere else, it's hard to say for sure what your issue is. The 800xx is a mid rise that I assume you wear around your hips, but the 220 is a higher rise meant to be worn closer to the natural waist. A high rise will almost always necessitate a trimmer waist measurement (assuming you don't have a gut), as the stomach is elastic while the hips are not. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 02:11 PM by reubensangwich

[dennnnnnnnn]

1 hour ago, reubensangwich said:

@dennnnnnnnn  Regarding the shrinkage, just the hot soak probably didn't get all the shrinkage out; a proper hot wash with heavy agitation and a spin in the drier would be what I would do if I were looking to shrink them as much as possible. 

Without fit pics or a further description of how the jeans fit everywhere else, it's hard to say for sure what your issue is. The 800xx is a mid rise that I assume you wear around your hips, but the 220 is a higher rise meant to be worn closer to the natural waist. A high rise will almost always necessitate a trimmer waist measurement (assuming you don't have a gut), as the stomach is elastic while the hips are not. 

 

 

Just from the pre soak fit I didn’t have much hope, usually I can stick a hand in my waist band, if I tried these in person I would have sized down for sure. I wasn’t shipping these back to hinoya so I had nothing to lose. 
 

is it worth throwing in the washing machine and dryer? I don’t want any dreaded marbling. I assume they’ll stretch out back to loose regardless. 
 

here’s some pre soak photos for now

[PrettyBoyTony]

They marble just by looking at them. A hot wash with medium spin and hot dryer should shrink these up good (inside out of course).They look similar to how mine were. I had to use a belt but don't mind that.

[reubensangwich]

@dennnnnnnnn They don't look too bad considering that's pre-soak. I have found in my limited experience that a nice hot wash and dry can help a garment settle into itself, so to speak. 

From what I've seen/read (mostly on here) the marbling on a pair of Denime's is unavoidable, but you can always try to mitigate it by turning off the spin cycle, then when they're done roll them up in towel and squeeze out what water you can, unroll and smooth out the wrinkles before tossing in the drier. You've already got them wet, so I think it's worth a try. 

 

[nick682]

You should be able to get some more shrink out of them.  I had to sell my first pair of 220A and buy a size up because they were too tight. 

The size 31 I sold measured around 15.25" after washing.

[dennnnnnnnn]

4 minutes ago, nick682 said:

You should be able to get some more shrink out of them.  I had to sell my first pair of 220A and buy a size up because they were too tight. 

The size 31 I sold measured around 15.25" after washing.

Do you know what they started at?

[nick682]

3 minutes ago, dennnnnnnnn said:

Do you know what they started at?

Sorry, I don't think I took measurements while they were raw.  I do remember them shrinking quite a bit. 

I would nuke them in the washer and dryer and see how much shrink you can get out of them.

[Vamp]

I was able to get 2"/5cm shrinkage in the waist and 1/2 to 1" in all other measurements on a pair of W36 220A. I soaked in extremely hot (seemed like it was almost boiling) water for an hour, occasionally agitating by hand. Then a hot machine wash and electric dryer.

This process caused the patch to lose a lot of ink, but the leather remains in decent shape. If that's something that would bother you, be careful. 

Even after all the shrinkage, the 220A will continue to have an unusually high rise compared to the rest of the measurements. Not necessarily bad, just different. The denim is really cool though and I would embrace any marbling - it suits them.

[PrettyBoyTony]

Here's mine

40 wash and a dryer

 

 

[PrettyBoyTony]

1 hour ago, Vamp said:

I was able to get 2"/5cm shrinkage in the waist and 1/2 to 1" in all other measurements on a pair of W36 220A. I soaked in extremely hot (seemed like it was almost boiling) water for an hour, occasionally agitating by hand. Then a hot machine wash and electric dryer.

This process caused the patch to lose a lot of ink, but the leather remains in decent shape. If that's something that would bother you, be careful. 

Even after all the shrinkage, the 220A will continue to have an unusually high rise compared to the rest of the measurements. Not necessarily bad, just different. The denim is really cool though and I would embrace any marbling - it 

I love the high front rise on them. Aesthetically vintage looking jeans 

[dennnnnnnnn]

I just measured them, they’re actually smaller than my warehouse 800, I think the rise makes them not fit right. 
 

Hot soak fit photos. 
 

going in the washing machine now 

[dennnnnnnnn]

In the wash and dryer they went. Haven’t tried them on yet but the waist looks like a potato chip. 

raw 41 cm flat 

hot soak 39

Washer and dryer 37, but they don’t really lay flat anymore  

they softened up a bit too. 

 

[Alec Leamas]

All this 220A talk and the news of the mill stopping making the fabric for them makes me want to pick up another pair!

[dennnnnnnnn]

8 hours ago, Alec Leamas said:

All this 220A talk and the news of the mill stopping making the fabric for them makes me want to pick up another pair!

That’s why I bought them, was in the market but got the warehouses instead. The fact that they are fast faders was appealing to me.

I was always on the hunt for a pair before the acquisition but they were impossible to find in stock, and there was never much info on them. They were cheaper than most other brands too. I’ve been eyeing up used pairs.

[Geeman]

Yeah i jumped on a pair of 224 knowing the denim was ceasing to be produced (goddammit  marketing gods, shaking fist at sky...) and I do like a 15oz denim.

[UkeNo]

I’ve recently bought and shrunk two pairs of 220A’s and the simple conclusion I have for you is that they shrink to tag size. 
 

The first pair in size 34 has had two soaks and a gentle machine wash. So, it takes a few to get all the shrink out. If the tagged size isn’t right then maybe change them. 
 

for ref:

W34 L32 Non-wash

Waist:46cm 18.3” (92cm 36.6”)

Inseam: 90cm 35.5”

Front Rise:35.5cm 14”

Back Rise: 44.5cm 17.5”

Thigh: 35cm 13.5”

Knee: 25.5cm 10.5”

Hem: 23.5cm 9.25”

Washed 

Double hot soak & 30deg gentle cycle

Waist: 43cm 17.25” (88cm 34”)

Inseam: 84cm 33”

Front Rise: 33cm 13”

Back Rise: 43cm 17”

Thigh: 33 13”

Knee: 24cm 9.5”

Hem: 22.5cm 8.85”

 

W33 L30 Non-Wash

Waist: 45.75cm 18” (92cm 36.4”)

Inseam: 84cm 33”

Front Rise: 34cm 13.4”

Back Rise: 43 17”

Thigh: 33cm 13”

Knee: 25cm 9.75”

Hem: 23cm 9”

Post Hot soak & Rinse:

Waist: 43cm 16.8”  (86cm 33.6)

Inseam: 79cm 31”

Front Rise: 32cm 11.75”

Back Rise: 42cm 16.5”

Thigh: 33cm 13”

Knee: 24cm 9.5”

Hem: 22.3cm 8.85” 

 

- These have had a further soak since and now have a 33” waist And 30.5” Inseam