Iron Heart Jeans

[sta991]

I got this pair of IH301S 21oz in a size 32 and they didn't fit ;(, would anyone be interested in purchasing them from me?

  

 

 

 

 

I might be interested. What are the actual measurements? Also, is the leg seam selvedge? It looks like whip stitching in red.

[Seul]

Also, is the leg seam selvedge? It looks like whip stitching in red.

Japanese Selvedge Indigo Denim (Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)

[mpukas]

 

Also, is the leg seam selvedge? It looks like whip stitching in red.

Japanese Selvedge Indigo Denim (Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)

 

^ I don't understand this last reply? 

 

I have a pair of IH 9634Z 21oz Real Black, and they don't have a selvedge edge on the outer leg seam. I've been meaning to post a question about this - is this selvedge denim? Is it less deisreable? Denim quality seems to be to be on par with other selvedge I have, prolly more rigid, but doesn't have the same coolness, X-factor, what ever you call it. 

 

Mine are black warp black weft, black stitching, red W, and as I understand it will not fade. If I had know better at the time, I would have looked for black selvedge with white weft and contrasting stitching. That said I really like them. 

[sta991]

Hi mpukas,

 

I didn't understand "(Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)" for a while either.

 

Basically "Japanese Selvedge Indigo Denim (Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)" means the manufacturer wove a role of selvedge denim and they constructed jeans that don't use the the self-edge (redline) on the outer leg seam of the jeans. They used the rest of the material for the jeans but they used that selvedge (redline) for something else. Who know what - ipod covers, wallets, hats, etc. but not the leg seam of the jeans. 

 

Is the non-showing selvedge denim the same material? Yes. Will it wear and fade the same? Yes. Is it missing that critical detail on the leg seam? Yes.  

 

Is it less desirable? In my opinion, yes, it is less desirable. For me, selvedge denim is about the details. And the minimum requirement, in my view, is that selvedge jeans have a selvedge leg seam. They don't have to have a selvedge inner fly. They don't have to have a selvedge coin pocket or belt loop, but they must have a selvedge leg seam. These don't, so as a buyer, they are worth a little less money to me. (As you say, the jeans don't have the same "coolness factor".)

Edited January 4, 2014 by sta991

[kiya]

 

Hi mpukas,

 

I didn't understand "(Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)" for a while either.

 

Basically "Japanese Selvedge Indigo Denim (Non-Showing outer seam selvedge)" means the manufacturer wove a role of selvedge denim and they constructed jeans that don't use the the self-edge (redline) on the outer leg seam of the jeans. They used the rest of the material for the jeans but they used that selvedge (redline) for something else. Who know what - ipod covers, wallets, hats, etc. but not the leg seam of the jeans. 

 

Is the non-showing selvedge denim the same material? Yes. Will it wear and fade the same? Yes. Is it missing that critical detail on the leg seam? Yes.  

 

Is it less desirable? In my opinion, yes, it is less desirable. For me, selvedge denim is about the details. And the minimum requirement, in my view, is that selvedge jeans have a selvedge leg seam. They don't have to have a selvedge inner fly. They don't have to have a selvedge coin pocket or belt loop, but they must have a selvedge leg seam. These don't, so as a buyer, they are worth a little less money to me. (As you say, the jeans don't have the same "coolness factor".)

 

 

FYI, the only time the selvedge ID isn't used on the outseam is when the leg is tapered (or flared for bootcut) from both the inner AND outer seam.  It is not so that the manufacturer can use the selvedge edge to make other products.

[S-Town]

It'd be fun to have some big beer bash, where all of the selvedge edges are burned in a giant bonfire, and where ladies out number dudes by 2 to 1.

[TheNorthern]

grundletaint; I've got those same wing tips and gosh do they look handsome when paired with IHs
for me it's my busters.. yours are grand too

[Al6ert]

will be sending these 634's to darn-it for a second time (too many holes??)

[summ3rhays]

New to me ultra heavy flannel IHSH-32.  Warm cozy goodness.

 

 

[itsbenhere]

Great fit dude!  Is it as heavy as the recent super heavies? For some reason it looks a little lighter...

 

 

Albert, how long have you had those 634s? They're looking very nice, i love seeing jeans that've been worn for a long time.

[Al6ert]

Ben, I've had those 634's for about 3.5 years...Over that time, I've probably put about 1.25 to 1.5 solid years of wear into them. They are probably my most worn / washed jeans. I only wear them occasionally now, but I really like having a fuller cut jean to bum around in.

[Max Power]

Nice Sh 32. I was eying that one too, but as I got the SE CPO (and found the price a bit steep) I passed. The fabric is however fantastic and feels similar to the 72, maybe a bit lighter.

[youngofthesoonest]

tried on the iron heart heavy jersey western shirt today and that fabric is pretty amazing. a bit long on me but i'm tempted to get it...

[youngofthesoonest]

oops. double post. 

Edited January 7, 2014 by youngofthesoonest

[grundletaint]

grundletaint; I've got those same wing tips and gosh do they look handsome when paired with IHs

for me it's my busters.. yours are grand too

Nice! How are yours handling indigo transfer?

[Al6ert]

comparing fit of my SExIH07BK (left) with the standard IH-634S (right). 

 

    

 

    

 

    

 

    

Edited January 7, 2014 by Al6ert

[Al6ert]

update of my IH-634S
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2014 by Al6ert

[Al6ert]

continued...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
     

Edited January 8, 2014 by Al6ert

[Al6ert]

update of my SEXIH07BKs
 

 

 

 

 

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[Al6ert]

continued...

 

 

 

 

 
    

[Mikeyone4life]

Might have to take these into Self Edge due to my inferior sewing skills. But anyway IHxBO1od around 8 months in or so.

[itsbenhere]

Not sure if any of the old timers are still here, but if anyone has a dark rider flannel in a medium that they'd like to get rid of I'd be very interested.  Wish the new Iron Heart shirts fit me like that one :/

[shoreman]

Anyone want a size large IHSH-21? Let me know.

[rosarkar]

so apparently there is a 18 oz raw indigo/indigo denim being woven at the moment. 

Edited January 14, 2014 by rosarkar

[FLDenim211]

Yep! I would have loved to have had my hands on it for HWDC

Edited January 14, 2014 by FLDenim211

[Paladizzo]

Still trying to get rid of my pair of Black IH301S in a 32. Give me a shout if anyone would be interested will let them go for a good price . 

[LsaShawn]

Hi Ironheart Army, Can anyone with the knowledge of Ironheart 555-02 help me with the details of it's cotton. Is it Texas?

[Al6ert]

All IH denim is made from USA cotton now...don't know if its grown in Texas or not, but it's a blend of different types anyway. Doesn't seem like it really matters. From the horse's  mouth: http://halloffade.com/travel-blog-11-iron-heart-boss-haraki-the-iron-legend-of-the-far-east/

[exaptavist]

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[exaptavist]

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