Denime

[bod]

I just noticed that on their site:

1966 Type: 50-10-0075 ¥16,800

66 Type: 50-11-0015 ¥15,750

[beautiful_FrEaK]

just ordered one via SharpService

Denime XX type

[deadendpro]

^ damn dude! extra birthday gift for you??? haha. the contest is just around the corner also!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

yes, birthday present for me

and it's still some time till the contest and I finally want a pair of Denime's XX denim that fits me

and on top of that, one person has to see if there really is a change between Shins-era and now

[Obbigood]

nice present

let us know your review when u receive it, eagerly wanna some good things about it.

[dr.house]

yes, birthday present for me

and it's still some time till the contest and I finally want a pair of Denime's XX denim that fits me

and on top of that, one person has to see if there really is a change between Shins-era and now

Nice present. You've bought a 32"??? Uh, since I'm no longer at MN: happy birthday, my friend!

[deadendpro]

and on top of that, one person has to see if there really is a change between Shins-era and now

good point, this really is reason enough to get them hahaha.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Thanks! No I ordered size 34. The pic is from Denime

[Max Power]

As you keep ignoring me in the other threads and PM, I say it again here: great purchase. And I am also really curious to hear, if the new era can keep up with the old (and maybe offer some better thread). If yes, I'll be over a pair sooner than you can say cheesecake.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

cheesecake!

(and I read your PM just some minutes ago)

[shinobi2000]

one person has to see if there really is a change between Shins-era and now

oh yeah, you're taking one for the team eh? I know, i know...such hard work researching denim... what a sacrifice ;-)

[beautiful_FrEaK]

it really is...should make it a profession.

donations are always welcome. of course, it's all for the truth!

[kit714]

shameless plug, I have a pair of worn Denime New XX (size 30) for sale, hope somebody will take them home for good wear

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=295735

[undercover73]

selling my Denime 66's

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=262324&page=2

[beautiful_FrEaK]

damn...looks like I have to wait a little longer for my XX-type as Denime is waiting for new stock from the factory...

[grooveholmes]

Sucks. How long do you have to wait?

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Don't know yet. Hide-san and the guys from Sharpservice trying to find out. Denime seems not to be very communicative..

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Ok..new production will be finished at the end of September (maybe later). Because of that I canceled my order from Denime.jp and ordered from Frisbee.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

the wait is killing me...

I ordered size 34 from Frisbee on monday and the package still hasn't arrived at Hide-san and his guys... I was hoping to get these BEFORE the Samurai contest...

From the pics it looks nice

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/frisbee/10002570/

[grooveholmes]

Hang in there, man-- looking forward to some pics.

Nothing new to report here. The waistband on the New 66s is starting to stretch a bit. These are the hairiest jeans I own by far-- I'm quite fond of the denim.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Finally, finally these 2 beauties arrived at my doorstep today. Will let you know all the details later and try to give a good review.

[Flash]

fingers crossed there the same denim

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Here we go. I'll start with a bunch of pictures and then I will say something about them.

Came in this plastic bag

The leather patch

Here you can see the first changes. The Lot# has been changed to 'XX' instead of the numbers before. The patch looks a lot more like leather than the older patch on my 66XX (at least from what I remember)

New tag on the jeans

Another change. The red tab is gone. Interesting stitching over the hidden rivet.

Hardware looks the same to me when comparing to the old one.

Selvage line

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Denim comparison to the denim on my 66XX.

The weave on the 66XX (on the right) looks tighter, RHT is harder to notice on the first look. It is very easy to see on the new denim. But is hasn't been soaked yet so maybe that will change.

BUT

To me the denim doesn't feel thinner like often said. Very rigid and crunchy (because of the starch I guess). The jeans were able to stand on their own. My old 66XX were also able to do it.

I put the new XX-type on a scale and compared its weight (14 or 14,5 oz. Contradicting info over the net) with my new XX-type 1951 (15oz).

XX-type: 1042g

XX-type 1951: 987 g

Measurements are nearly the same, so a bit surprised.

And now, the pre-soak fit!

Measurements (pre soak)

waist: 35,5

front rise: 12,5

back rise: 16,25

thigh: 13,5

knee: 9,875

leg opening: <9

inseam: 38

[Obbigood]

by far the best review on first hand so far, b_F.

you are right, the instance I saw the pics, the tight weave is the first i noticed.

[Flash]

Looking at the pics the denim looks pretty similar if not the same and im sure after a soak or two the waeve will tighten up , looks like denime is on the top of my list ( after i get my oni's delivered )

great review bf

[ranonranonarat]

great comparison b_F, can't wait to see how they will turn out down the line. that fit pre-soak looks very good on you and that leather patch looks pretty yummy. pity about the tab, but they look like they are still going to be a great pair of jeans!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Thx Ranon, Flash and Obbi!

From what I can tell now, they aren't that bad as some wanted us to believe. Of course this has to be proven over time. Tomorrow I will take new close-ups side by side with my 66XX.

Here's something I got from a great memebr of our community:

So according to what I heard, the reason why so many retailers are shying away from Denime, is that Tsujimoto-san (owner of the RMCs) is trying to market Denime into a lower price point. This is so that he can position Joe McCoy's as his top tier denim brand and have Denime cover the ¥10000 to ¥20000 market for jeans I can imagine that he is doing what companies like Momotaro and Kapital have done, which is create a more fashion oriented branch that has a little repro details, but the fabric and hardware is by no means high end.

So in short, I didn't really get a direct answer to wether or not the XX denim is different. However, I am 100% sure it will be different in the near future. I think that we need to see those jeans you ordered!

I know that Denime is currently producing a new run which will be finished end of September / begining of October. If it will be different, I don't know.

For the ones who still want a Shins or Orrizonti pair, Yahoo auction is the way to go. There I also snatched this deadstock pair from 2007. Saw it on Yahoo accidentally and this way I could save some shipping costs.

The Denime XX 1951:

[Flash]

So rmc owns denime ? I thought it was wego or some other unknown company

must spread mate

[Obbigood]

^^good info again, b_F!