DenimProject - The Deviants 2013 Contest

[Max Power]

^In my experience, females never have good taste in clothing for men so please beware! Just don't tell it to them directly though

wise words. this contest is really tempting ( and b_f who constantly bugs me to join). anyway, great list of contestants. it will be fun to follow

[aho]

^In case you forgot, the heavyweight contest is 2 years, and furthermore a few of us are going double duty on this.... ;)

[kit714]

Hi, nice to meet you all. Long time lurker here on sufu and a denim freak myself. Hope to share this journey with all of you. I 'll be sure to share lots of outdoor and great food experiences with all you here from Vancouver Canada.

Cheers

[Snake]

I normally take a size 32; besides the waist being 1 inch bigger the rest of the measurements seems in line with other 40s repro jeans I own.

Now the dilemma for me is whether to hem or wear them with cuff.

[ranonranonarat]

great! drapygo, please note that i am ranon, so 4) and 23) is the same person!

[Max Power]

Is there a chance we can see the actual measurements before we decide wether to join? I am perfectly stuck between 32 and 34 an think I would not be happy with either one or the other. But a new sizechart for the new fabric might change this. Will also talk with almostnice, this sounds like it would be a contest for him.

[aho]

drapygo will have to confirm, but I don't think actual payment is until March so you might be able to be "tentative" until then? Speaking with Taichi-san, he doesn't believe the measurements will differ significantly with the new fabric, but as we all know, a centimeter here or there can change things completely...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

About the relative big waist, I asked Taichi. He will provide us with raw and one-wash charts later on. The one-wash measurements are after a machine wash. Taichi said, he doesn't care much when washing.

And here is the way, Taichi measures the waist:

[Max Power]

Yes indeed. I "need" a waist of 87-89cm so I'd be a "33" in above size chart. And I won't be able to commit to a 1-year-contest when I dislike the fit. Although the concept and people behind this contest really appeal to me.

Edit: Thanks b_f. Now I have to figure out if that makes a difference to the BIG method

Edited December 28, 2012 by Max Power

[beautiful_FrEaK]

jeans shrink and stretch according to your needs

just pull out youir measuring tape and double check..that's what I gonna do now

[drapygo]

Update: January will have the finalized size chart. Still time for decisions.

Hemming, right now we are are not providing it.

Edited December 28, 2012 by drapygo

[beautiful_FrEaK]

good news.

oh and MaxPower: they have a quite highish rise so taking a smaller waist size than usual is not that uncommon

[Mich]

^^ Exactly my thoughts, and why i'm currently leaning towards a 32.

It also possible to let the waist shrink less by fixating it with something or keeping it above water when soaking.

One thing i don't want is for them ending up too baggy and being stuck with a fit i dislike.

[PeterParker]

Update: Hemming, right now we are are not providing it.

Sadly, this is a dealbreaker for me. If Taichi-san has a Union Special, why can't he hem our jeans to order?

It's less of an issue to find a shop that can hem my jeans on a Union when I won't start wearing them for some time, but for a contest that isn't really any option.

[aho]

b_F, brilliant, thanks for that diagram. It is indeed diff. than BiG method so everyone make sure you're comparing the right thing! With that in mind, I'm sitting at about 86cm give or take; the 32's will be perfect!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I just measured my pairs..well the difference to BiG method: Taichi's method make the jeans 1-1,5cm bigger in the waist. Mhh...

[J Escobar]

what size is the model wearing in the pics?

[nachtelijk]

Sadly, this is a dealbreaker for me. If Taichi-san has a Union Special, why can't he hem our jeans to order?

i think there is a misunderstanding, Taichi-san does not have a Union Special

the hemming service mentioned in the Denim Project site is done by YM-Factory

the customers themselves have to send the jeans to YM-Factory

it is explained here: http://denimproject.net/archives/444

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I saw this posted by Taichi-san on Facebook. Full custom made yarn for his new project...so..fur us?

[exaptavist]

.

Edited October 9, 2015 by hoggreaser

[ThinFinn]

this sounds really interesting imo! hmmmm...

[SLAB]

i think there is a misunderstanding, Taichi-san does not have a Union Special

the hemming service mentioned in the Denim Project site is done by YM-Factory

the customers themselves have to send the jeans to YM-Factory

it is explained here: http://denimproject.net/archives/444

disappointing news; perhaps a run of the jeans with inseam of 34" is a possibility? It's very troublesome to send the jeans abroad to have them hemmed the proper way. I prefer not to supercuff them as I already have two pairs with massive cuffs; its not an ideal everyday look...

[beautiful_FrEaK]

I hope within the next 3 months we will find a way to get the desired length for everybody.

Thanks for the links hoggreaser!

[Max Power]

The inseam of 38"presoak /36" postsoak makes sense. It's easier to chop some length away than to sew extra inches on. But that's just because I want 36"...

[BrownMetallic]

inseam length is a none issue for me. .quite fortunately, BiG has always been my default for hemming jobs. but, the waist, i've always grappled cuz i'm always in-between sizes. i know they might be using new prod'n denim for the project, so i'm curious about the shrink-stretch angle.

for W32 initial post wash is approx 33.5"? while the W30 is at 31.5", is that right?

i'm W33 on most slimmer cut/model & W32 on more repro cuts.

sizing up or down from [that], for me, depends on the behavior of the denim itself ... eg, degree of sanforization, stretch potential, etc.

[aho]

I don't think Taichi-san wants to give us any measurements etc. yet because it's yet to be seen/confirmed with the new denim. For now though, it seems it might be best to go with your usual sizing (ex. I'm a 32 in Warehouse and most Japanese denim and a 32 in the D00XX seems to be best for me). The hemming will actually be a problem for me too as I don't know of any chainstitching services in Chicago (this might have changed in the past few years? Someone let me know if so!)...You'd think there'd be plenty what with an older Union Special factory being here and all (has since been turned into condos)...Hopefully we'll work something out in the next few months!

drapygo, please add Obbigood to the list!

[beautiful_FrEaK]

hehe..I pm'd him already about james

[Snake]

I asked someone with a size 32 D00XX to measure his pair using BIG method and this is what he gave me (raw measurements)

waist: 34"

front rise: 12"

rear rise: 15.5"

upper thigh: 13"

knee: 9 7/8"

leg opening: 9"

inseam: 38"

I don't think the waist will be oversized. Looks like a typical 40s repro measurements. If inseam only shrinks 2", I think the waist will probably shrink 1.5" to 2" max.

[aho]

^snake, thanks for the raw measurements, and you're right, pretty typical 40's repro measurements. Damn, I just want to buy a 32 and start this contest already hahaha

And not that I'm gonna win, but what models would you all choose if you had the opportunity to decide the next cut (and free pair)? I'd either go all out with a 20's model (cinch, exposed rivets, suspender buttons etc.) or something easier on Taichi-san's budget like this WWII pair: http://www.marvins-jp.com/denimpants/dp-308-%28753%29-sold/dp-308.html

[Snake]

I like an early WWII pair with crotch rivet.

Edited December 28, 2012 by Snake