Options for Buying Japanese Denim

[theetruscan]

Damnit

Well the one I'm keeping is RRC made by red moon, the one i'm selling is some brand called Primary. bought it for $100, i'm guessing its some RM rip off

Link ?12345

[Pew Pew]

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/vari/pr-ko-sow-0884/

the one i'm not keeping.

[indigo_junkie]

Ugh, JACKPOT sent my wallet about a month later. No e-mail, nothing. They didn't even ask for my proper adress. The wallet ended up in Vancouver when I live in Edmonton. and to make it even worse, i had to pay a $25 fee. Now I have two wallets. I bought one from VARI because I assumed JACKPOT was not going to send me my order...

That's incredible. I've never heard of something like that happen before. They probably waited until they could charge your card first or something. Well, at least you've got the wallet you wanted. I'm not so certain over the quality of that primary wallet.

[jpgm]

That's incredible. I've never heard of something like that happen before. They probably waited until they could charge your card first or something. Well, at least you've got the wallet you wanted. I'm not so certain over the quality of that primary wallet.

agreed....pretty ridiculous set of events right there.

the quality of that primary wallet doesnt look too great.

[gimmegimme]

agreed....pretty ridiculous set of events right there.

the quality of that primary wallet doesnt look too great.

Hard to really tell without seeing it in person...but its definitely not redmoon, that's for sure.

[kiya]

You can't really expect much for a $75 wallet. I don't even really see the point of buying a wallet that cheap from Japan...

One of the reasons we buy Japanese made wallets is because we can't find wallets domestically that are made that as well.

[iamstarwars]

You can't really expect much for a $75 wallet. I don't even really see the point of buying a wallet that cheap from Japan...

One of the reasons we buy Japanese made wallets is because we can't find wallets domestically that are made that as well.

I thought it was because they were making cooler and bigger holes in back pockets...

[Pew Pew]

Hard to really tell without seeing it in person...but its definitely not redmoon, that's for sure.

The leather feels a little...meh, but other than that there's nothing really wrong with quality. Although, I can see some differences between the RRC and the Primary. I should have just waited -__-.

[indigo_junkie]

^^After confirmation email or anything for 2+ weeks? Anyone would have just assumed they didn't send it.

[Pew Pew]

^^After confirmation email or anything for 2+ weeks? Anyone would have just assumed they didn't send it.

Like I did . What made matters worse was how they dealt with the shipping. they didn't send me a tracking number, which is why i assumed they would never send it. Then when they finally sent it, they sent it to the wrong fucking province/city. So i had to pay an additional tax that doesn't even apply to me.

[jcotteri]

Thats heaps shit mate..

How would you say the primary compared to the RM personaly?

[Chponglasia]

I placed an order and got this (in English):

First of all, thank you very much for your order.

Basically we don't have a service to send clothing overseas. But we sometimes do it.

You have ordered clothing through our web site in Rakuten, so this time, we are going to send clothing to you if you agree with a few things below. Please read it,and e-mail back to me.

(AGREEMENT OF OUR POLICY SHIPPING TO OVERSEAS)

1. In the case that we send clothing to out of Japan,

you cannot return or change goods with any reasons.

2. We are going to use EMS for shipping. This is the shipping service offered

by Japan Post office. We need to charge you the shipping fee. It depends on

the weight of the box. The shipping fee might be changed.

3. about credit card.

The shipping address must be as same as the billing address of your

credit card.

4.About the tariff

There is a possibility that the tariff is generated when I send out the

commodity to you.

Please understand there is a possibility that you should pay the tariff.

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I thought they always shipped overseas. Anyone ever get turned down by them, or is this just some weird technicality thing?

[gimmegimme]

As far as I know, Hinoya shipped overseas. They're on the lists of Rakuten stores that do???

What did you buy? (being nosey)

[iamstarwars]

Don't worry, they always send this email the first time they send something to you. After you get your order and email them to thank them, they will tell you you can order more stuff from them.

[Chponglasia]

Don't worry, they always send this email the first time they send something to you. After you get your order and email them to thank them, they will tell you you can order more stuff from them.

I figured it might be something like that.

I ordered a pair of Burgus Plus Lot 755.

[gimmegimme]

I figured it might be something like that.

I ordered a pair of Burgus Plus Lot 755.

Right...I already knew that. I'm old.

I've received the standard confirmation-request from rakuten shops, but they've never commented on not typically shipping overseas...oh well, whatever.

[Pew Pew]

Thats heaps shit mate..

How would you say the primary compared to the RM personaly?

I don't own a RM. It's RRC, which is under the RM company, but made in i believe chinaland. It's one third of the price of RM, and its really good quality in my opinion. To be honest, the Primary doesn't compare but it's still decent.

[Cali]

So I set up a rakuten account per instructions and got verification. I then placed an order with 2nd and got an automated email about my credit card not running. Anybody who could explain this to me would be much appreciated. Seems to be saying either my expiration date was wrong (I checked, it was good) or my bank refused the transaction. I am going to call them but I wanted to know if anybody had a similar situation.

Thanks

As for this mail the credit card which the customer utilizes not being approved

It is the mail which we inform.

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This time shop “[amekajibaika] inside the optimistic market 2ND second”

You utilizing, thank you truly.

You appointed the credit card to means of settlement of the commodity which order it receives, but

It is in a state where you cannot utilize the credit card.

Information below in regard to verification, please do procedure.

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[incoming order number] xxxx

[Day and time] 2007-09- 1705: 04: 59

[Payment method] credit card liquidation bundle payment

* The basket which does not have the mistake in input of the credit card number expiration date please verify.

When there is no mistake, please inquire to the credit card company of utilization.

* As for modification correction of payment methods please go from URL below.

* As for the help regarding the payment this

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/com/faq/faq020.html#2033

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* As for modification correction of payment method this (purchase past record) from…

<Importance>

When during the below-mentioned time limit it was not modified & was not corrected of payment methods, this order automatic

Because it becomes cancellation, please note.

* Payment methodological modification correction time limit

2007 September 18th 23:59 to

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<Note>

Because the customer of the customer becomes the below-mentioned shop, the unclear point, in order contents error

Case it is, directly shop to “[amekajibaika] please inquire 2ND second”.

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* Shop name: [amekajibaika] 2ND second

* Shop URL: http://www.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/

* Telephone: 0596-22-7822

* Mail address: [email protected]

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* When there is no remembering in this order?

Other one mistaking, there is a possibility of ordering in your mail address.

In that case, it is the number of serious hands, but to the above-mentioned shop and the optimistic market

Please inform.

───────────── inquiry ─────────────────

The inquiry [email protected] regarding the commodity and liquidation dispatch

Question http://www.rakuten.co.jp/com/faq/ regarding the optimistic market

Optimistic market http://www.rakuten.co.jp/

[billiamphan]

Does your credit card address and info match the shipping info?

[edmond]

2nd doesnt have that same address issue.. i think his credit card has a problem try cancelling it and doing it all over again

[Cali]

Yeah, my address is the same, but I dont think they need it to be as it is international and I am not sure they could decipher it properly. I called the bank and they said it had not even been run which is odd. I tried modifying the order and reentering the credit card to make sure all the numbers were correct but got another email that seems to say the same thing. I emailed 2nd but they just told me (I think) that it is not them, but Rakuten that handles this.

This mail is the important mail regarding the order of the customer.

Until transaction completes, please retain.

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CallahanPatrick way

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This mail the credit card which the customer utilizes approves

Without being done

It is the mail which we inform.

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This time shop “[amekajibaika] 2ND inside the optimistic market [se]

[kando]”

You utilizing, thank you truly.

In means of settlement of the order the credit card appointment

It received, but

It is in a state where you cannot utilize the credit card.

Information below in regard to verification, please do procedure.

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[incoming order number] xxxx

[Day and time] 2007-09- 1705: 04: 59

[Payment method] credit card liquidation bundle payment

* The basket which is not the mistake in input of the credit card number expiration date

Please verify.

When there is no mistake, to the credit card company of utilization question combination

The [se].

* Modification correction of payment methods going from URL below, is the [ku]

It is.

* As for the help regarding the payment this

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/com/faq/faq020.html#2033

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* As for modification correction of payment method this (purchase past record) from…

https://order.my.rakuten.co.jp/?

<Importance>

When during the below-mentioned time limit it was not modified & was not corrected of payment methods, the book

Order automatic

Because it becomes cancellation, please note.

* Payment methodological modification correction time limit

2007 September 18th 23:59 to

[billiamphan]

just use another credit card?

[Cali]

Might be important to note that this one was from 2nd not Rakuten, and had a price breakdown with international shipping included.

Could this have gone through and we just don't understand eachother through machine translators?

[indigo_junkie]

Some rakuten stores have trouble with my card (hinoya). For others (2nd), it goes through with no probs. Which is weird because it's all done by Rakuten. And my shipping address (work) is different from my billing address (home), though on Rakuten, I put my shipping address as my billing address to avoid confusion. Rakuten Ichiban handles all the credit card issues. They authorise the amount on your card to check if you have the available funds. then they inform the store to send the item. The store sends the item and invoices Rakuten. Rakuten then charges your card, takes their cut and sends the rest to the store. Very convoluted. I wonder if US Yahoo shopping is like this.

[Cali]

I am going to try another card and see if that fixes things.

I wish they took paypal, it would simplify the shipping and payment process.

Thanks for the responses.

[Chponglasia]

Hallo.

This is Takuya,HINOYA Co.,Ltd

There was a report from optimism today.

As a result, your card is safe.

However, there was a report from Levi's...

In the United States, jeans that are attached of a red tab become copyright illegal.

If I send you this jeans, it seems to become illegal.

Therefore, I cannot send you this jeans...

I apologize to you...

I'm terrible sorry...

I cancel your this order. Please forgive me.

Hereafter, we will introduce a good item.

Please use HINOYA again.

Most sincerely,

Takuya HINOYA Co.,Ltd

[edmond]

what did you buy from hinoya?

[Chponglasia]

I was TRYING to buy a pair of Burgus Plus Lot 755.

[gimmegimme]

I was TRYING to buy a pair of Burgus Plus Lot 755.

That sucks. I guess our days of importing levi's repros is coming to an end.

[theetruscan]

That sucks. I guess our days of importing levi's repros is coming to an end.

Doubt it. I bet it just means that the proxies and our friends in JP will end up with more to do.

It definitely makes it more expensive though.