The Flat Head

[LFC4ever 65,689]

Can anyone shed any light on their numbering system please and if they tend to come up small,large or true to size?

I'm interested in the 5007 unwashed.

[horriblyjollyjinx 5,589]

like almost all other japanese jeans they shrink to tagged size and stretch up to probably 2 inches.

3007 is the same cut but with different denim, dont know how the 5 looks but the 3 is awesome.

http://www.rockcandy.jp/f_jeans_folder/f_jeans_3005_yu_gazo/f_jeans_3005_used_top.html

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/fh-3007

same denim as this jacket http://denim-gallery.heavy.jp/flathead_6002w-3.html

våran panel tycker att man ska koka pastan i två år

[LFC4ever 65,689]

Hi Thanks.

Looks like the 3005 is 14.5 oz denim and the 5005 is 13.5 oz yet the heavier denim is cheaper ! Both seem to be based on cut of 1950 501 ?

Not sure what cut the 5007 is based on though obviously a bootleg.

[horriblyjollyjinx 5,589]

the x005 is probably inspired by the 1950 cut but I don't think they are exactly the same.

the x0007 probably isnt based on a particular cut.

våran panel tycker att man ska koka pastan i två år

[ringring 80,960]

3007 is a bootcut.

5005 & 3003 are 44 repros.

3005 is a looser '55' style cut

5303 is a slimmer '47' style cut

All nice denim.

[LFC4ever 65,689]

Great thanks.

Any comments on why the heavier denim (14.5 oz ) seems cheaper than the 13.5 oz denim?

Also, do they tend to size like Sugarcane ( where I really need an unwashed 34 ) or like Studio D'artisan where I take a 36 in the sd103 and 105?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Dick Danger 36,550]

I have the 3003 raw, and it measures tagged size before shrinkage.

[ringring 80,960]

In my experience Flatties are true to size as tagged. ie if you're a size 32, buy a tagged 32.

The Flat Head that would be well worth hunting down is the 5100 10th Anniversary yellow-line selvedge. Serious denim on that one.

Otherwise, all their jeans are pretty good.

[lil brown brother 282,672]

is this it? http://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/fh-5100xx/

[PG2G 334]

The 5100 is actually available at self edge for discount as part of the style forum special.

http://www.selfedge.com/2007/01/flat-head-shirts-and-model-5100-jeans.php

[LFC4ever 65,689]

Would you describe these as loose, regular or slim fitting ?

[ringring 80,960]

I would describe them as slim, but not skinny. Not far from an SD103 if that's any help to you.

[tangerine 106,217]

I have the 3003 raw, and it measures tagged size before shrinkage.

Yes, same here, and I warm-washed and tumble dried them, and they were a little tight after but quickly stretched to a comfortable fit. Really nice jeans.

ringring, great to see you posting again! I agree about the 5100, the denim is spectacular. I find them to be slim fitting through the hips and seat, but the lower legs are cut fuller than SD-103s.

[Carl 319,536]

I am in-fucking-desire-rapesex-monkeybuttlove with my 3003's

I thought fit couldnt get better then Hawaii's but somehow it did. Everything about the jean is spot on for me. Sorta slim but perfectly baggy at the same time. My only tiny, tiny, tiny complaint is that the leg opening is about half an inch to big, but gotta stay true to the '44 original.

[aubrgene 994]

The 5100 is actually available at self edge for discount as part of the style forum special.

http://www.selfedge.com/2007/01/flat-head-shirts-and-model-5100-jeans.php

Do you know if they are cut like 55 501s? Thanks.

[coleslawyum 661,314]

The 5100 10th anniversary are great jeans. They look a little like Texas cotton with the short fibers, but maybe thats only me. I don't have any idea what a 55 fit is like. I think most of my jeans are 47 fits. But I have to say that the Flat Heads are tighter on the thighs and have a larger leg opening.

[kiya 1,080,191]

Do you know if they are cut like 55 501s? Thanks.

here are some better photos, a quick rundown of the style, and also measurements for all sizes: http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=196

[tec761 27]

im really interested in the 3005xx but i cant figure out the fit. if its another 47 repro then i geuss ill pass.

basically im deciding between 3005xx and eternall 811 (i know they are alotdifferent) and then im done for a loong time.

[aubrgene 994]

here are some better photos, a quick rundown of the style, and also measurements for all sizes: http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=196

Kiya- are those Flatheads sanforized and true to size? I have the 31 W in Iron Heart 634S. Thanks! BTW, I love my IHs----one of my favs:-)

[kiya 1,080,191]

Flat head jeans tend to shrink quite a bit more than other raw denim.. We've seen up to 3" in shrinkage in the length after a warm soak.

Regarding the waist size, the exact measurements for every tagged size is on our site.

Glad you're liking your Iron Hearts!

[tangerine 106,217]

Do you know if they are cut like 55 501s? Thanks.

The 5100s are not cut much like 55 501s at all; the Flat Heads are much slimmer in the hips and seat, and more of a straight up and down cut. The leg openings on the 5100s are possibly wider than 55 501s though I haven't measured them.

[aubrgene 994]

Flat head jeans tend to shrink quite a bit more than other raw denim.. We've seen up to 3" in shrinkage in the length after a warm soak.

Regarding the waist size, the exact measurements for every tagged size is on our site.

Glad you're liking your Iron Hearts!

Yes, they're tagged as 36 in length. Do they also shrink 3" in the waist? Thanks~

[kiya 1,080,191]

Yes, they're tagged as 36 in length. Do they also shrink 3" in the waist? Thanks~

The maximum waist shrinkage should be 1" if soaked in warm water..

[ringring 80,960]

Like many shrink-to-fits, they'll stretch out again in the waist. So for example, if you're a 31 then buy a 31.

[horriblyjollyjinx 5,589]

I've got a pair of 3003s on the way. I bought them in size 28 because of the high rise, I wear 30 in SD103. I think they'll fit great after stretching about 2 inches.

[Carl 319,536]

I've got a pair of 3003s on the way. I bought them in size 28 because of the high rise, I wear 30 in SD103. I think they'll fit great after stretching about 2 inches.

Ehhhhh, they might be a little tight. I got my normal size and they fit great. Sizing down and you could run in to some problems. Let us know how it goes.

And a 30 in 103's fit me perfectly...still kicking myself that i got xx-005's instead of those, oh well, live and learn.

[horriblyjollyjinx 5,589]

what do you wear in 3003? I want to wear them high and really fitted. I know that 28 is going to be snug for sure, but I think it will be a good fit.

[Carl 319,536]

30. My normal size.

I wanted them slightly baggy. A traditional anti-fit i guess you could say.

For what it sounds like you want a 28 might work. No uneven sizes for Flat Head?

[horriblyjollyjinx 5,589]

yeah, there are uneven sizes but I never really thought about anything else than 28 in these. I'd wear 29 in the 3008 and 5/3005.

We'll see, I'll just buy another pair if they really end up too small.

[bruised 879,826]

i just wanted to say that i like how ayn's current flatheads fit. way better than the diors he had IMO. (where the diors some sort of stretch?)