Vintage Denim?

[Dr_Heech]

26 minutes ago, Facini said:

Thanks @Dr_Heech for giving me a reference. From what I'm seeing, the market has really become sort of a bubble - I can't even find Type IIIs without the price being way too high and in poor condition. I can't help but laugh at that 4400 $ price. Would ebay be the best place for me to sell it?

If anybody here has any interest, feel free to shoot me a PM. If anyone is wondering, the chest is about 60 cm P2P

Well l sold the last ones on ebay so yeah, plus you need the global customer base if your in for a chance. 

[mstax]

@Facini Thanks for sharing that jacket, so cool to see you wore it since deadstock! That washing process is also nice to see, I always enjoy washing something that old and see how it comes out. Let alone something deadstock. 

Value wise it’s a little bit difficult to tell I think. I collect and sell sometimes as well and the stuff I sold went for reasonable prices. Nothing high like some eBay sellers are asking. I also don’t think eBay is the best place to sell (though I don’t have any experience there so please correct me if I’m wrong). A network of fellow collectors or denim enthusiasts would feel better I think. Maybe via social media if you have the followers ofcourse. You have a good size though, slightly large but that’s better than too small. If I would give an indication I think anywhere between 300-600 is reasonable based on what I experienced. But, it really all depends on what someone wants to give.

[Facini]

Thanks for all your input! The 557 will now get some new and well deserved love. Thanks a lot @mstax.

Another jacket that i am considering parting with is this rather immaculate 70505-0317 Big E. No wear, tear og repair. Near perfect stitch integrity. 

524 buttons, black bartacks under that flaps. Likely a late 60s/early 70s. As good as new. 

Measures 59 cm p2p, 56,5 cm back w/o collar. 

 

Any ideas regarding worth in todays market?

Will post more photos tomorrow for preservation and documentation. 

[Facini]

More shots.

[rockon99]

Can anyone identify this jacket? A friend was going through their grandpas old stuff and found it. Lived in SF. Her grandma says it's from the 20s but I doubt that. I'm just not an authority on truly vintage wares. The way the pockets are attached almost looks like some fast-fashion brand.

 

Edited November 14, 2022 by rockon99

[FurnitureMaker]

4 hours ago, rockon99 said:

Can anyone identify this jacket? A friend was going through their grandpas old stuff and found it. Lived in SF. Her grandma says it's from the 20s but I doubt that. I'm just not an authority on truly vintage wares. The way the pockets are attached almost looks like some fast-fashion brand.

 

What a great find. So much character. The owner must have been quite the sight because those are some serious tan lines. Beautiful. 

[NilsLW]

Snagged this curious pair of vintage 501s on Tradera (Swedish eBay) for $7. I wonder if those are selvedge train tracks?
The centered jacron patch is throwing me off, I know they are a feature of 80's Levi's but never saw them on redlines. The copper top button also make me skeptical, fakes perhaps?
Probably wishful thinking but they were so cheap however so worth the risk. We will see when they arrive.

Edit: Bartack and obvious zipper fades on the fly indicate 505s, even though they were labeled as 501s. That would explain the copper top button too. Fingers crossed I’m correct about the selvedge train tracks. 

Edited December 12, 2022 by NilsLW

[Dr_Heech]

@NilsLW Belt loops put the date at around pre-1978 (the bartack stitching is wider than the width of the loop), and judging by the coin pocket design, it may not necessarily be a 505 either. I'm sure 505 coin pockets are similar to the 501's type but think they changed that in the 80's maybe?

Like you said, no real risk.

[silencejoe]

Is this a type A 66? 

[Sympathy-For-The-Denim]

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/140373459_men-s-miner-s-pants-five-button-style-dement-trunk-possibly-by-levi-strauss-159097

please help me unseeing the skulls on that Rorschach canvas

Edited December 17, 2022 by Sympathy-For-The-Denim

[indigoeagle]

Not sure, if this had been posted before.
Interview with the Berberjin owner

A 501XX 1915 is shown.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=932351137286354

[indigoeagle]

From around 08:00 a WWII Levi's model is shown. After that a 1922 one.

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by indigoeagle

[indigoeagle]

Often we can read, that some jeans are made of "pure indigo" and then assume, it's natural indigo.
I think, I got confused a few times and also read about different opinions, whether one model or one maker uses natural indigo or not.

This blog has an interesting post on this issue, explaining that pure indigo is still artificial indigo. And that that would also be historically correct for most models after 1915.

On the blog you can read a lot of details of the WH WWII models.
He also likes to lighten some matches on his jeans- as that apparently was often done in the past- to get similar fades.

https://channeltrutto-com.translate.goog/denim-9/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

Not sure why but I always thought “pure” indigo was specifically referring to the synthetic compound. Natural being the term for, well, the plant. 

[julian-wolf]

^ Yep

Just standard industry terminology, like how Genuine Leather means plastic composite

[indigoeagle]

1 hour ago, julian-wolf said:

^ Yep

Just standard industry terminology, like how Genuine Leather means plastic composite

Good example.
I'm sure many are mistaken about that.

[Dr_Heech]

Saw this pair of early 80's 501's for sale on Hundredbuyers lg and had to share.

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Dr_Heech

[Flash]

that is awesome 

[Dr_Heech]

1 minute ago, Flash said:

that is awesome 

Thanks mate, yeah l think so. Many more obvious and celebrated (and rare) mistakes were made during wartime 501 production but these are relatively modern in comparison.

You wait tho, one day lvc will probably repro these in a limited run and for a high ticket price.

 

[Maynard Friedman]

^ Win the raffle and buy the repro pair for £501

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Rather buy a £501 ticket to be able to enter the raffle to buy a pair

[Dr_Heech]

Berberjin's Instagram has been on fire all this week (it's their 25th anniversary) , showcasing some of the most impressive collection of denim pieces for upcoming sale that l've ever seen, and one particular item l haven't (as yet) until now.

At first glance it looks like the 1931 Lee Cowboy jacket, the one with the white neck tag and the buckleback. This jacket has the white neck tag, with the 101-J clearly stamped on it (albeit stitched under the collar, like the wartime version) but if you turn the jacket around it has no buckle/strap. Not only does it not have a buckle/strap, there doesn't seem to be any evidence of any rivets ever holding one in place. On further inspection it has the wartime 'ufo' style rivets which leads me to believe this has to be a rare transitional model, which must've been made around 1942.

 

 

 

Edited August 6 by Dr_Heech
To clarify

[Broark]

Beberjin has been posting some pretty amazing stuff this week, it's hard to keep track of it all. Nice find there doc.
I can only imagine the prices for some of this stuff.

[silencejoe]

Not sure, if this had been posted before.
Interview with the Berberjin and Harris

Checkout time 22:00 - 30:00 

https://youtu.be/MhtZvvams6k

Edited March 3, 2023 by silencejoe
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[NilsLW]

I've been waiting three months for my latest purchase to ship all the way from Oklahoma to me in Sweden, so pretty excited to show it.
Finally found a pair of deep dark indigo vintage Levi's in my size, and this pair in particular are a pair of early 80s non-selvedge shrink to fits.
They have several funny quirks as these transitional redlines often do, but notable is probably the funny placement of the back pockets. The stitching overall feels quite sloppy compared to more common 90s pairs but the fabric still has that super hairy, thick and soft feel. Someone must've washed and dried these really hot back in the day because the tagged 33x38 has shrunk down to my 30x33. The natural color and details of the fabric was quite hard to capture with my phone so hope these photos will do!

[Dr_Heech]

@NilsLW Look like they've been hemmed actually. A 33x 38 would end up a 35ish leg anyway. 1501 with the 1 prefix signifying the code for 38 leg.

Definately early 80's non selvedge as latter versions had white overlock stitch whereas yours have the earlier copper/brown overlock stitch.

 

Edited September 18 by Dr_Heech
To clarify

[Maynard Friedman]

Good spot Doc, definitely look hemmed as that doesn’t appear to be a chainstitched hem, although there is decent roping.

Edited March 5, 2023 by Maynard Friedman

[NilsLW]

@Dr_Heech Sounds probable. Five inches of shrinkage does seem quite a lot, I was wondering when they stopped doing chainstitched hems?

[JRendon02]

Levi’s 70505 0217. I know it was made between 1971-mid 80s. Button code 52, orange stitching, no hand warmers, small “e”, and double row stitching adjacent to button holes. No tags. 
 

[mk3radial]

My january 1982 redline, it was very difficult for me to find my size. This one is a 38×40.