45rpm

[john11f]

it's both fit and the quality of denim. but there is a place for the sorahiko in my collection. it's just that the eternals are more challenging to break in because of how deep the indigo is. i think the sorahikos will fade evenly whereas the eternals will give you great contrast in color.

[xcoldricex]

i hope they'll have either/both of the jomons or umii's at one of the shops i visit... i'll have to check out eternals while in japan too! sounds like good stuff.

[Edge_Of_Denim]

About those 811's on the Rakuten page, can anyone say if they are black or just a very deep indigo?

WORD UP,

EVERYBODY SAY, WHEN YOU HEAR THE CALL

YOU GOT TO GET IT UNDERWAY.

[tangerine]

Quote:

About those 811's on the Rakuten page, can anyone say if they are black or just a very deep indigo?

--- Original message by Edge_Of_Denim on Apr 12, 2006 10:33 AM

If you are talking about the 811s at bears that horriblyjollyjinx posted the link to, they are deep indigo.

I have never seen black 811s but I don't know that they don't exist.

ask a cassowary

[denimdestroyedmylife]

good idea.

i believe all 811s are blue

all 851s are black

but i am often wrong

[isn't this the 45rpm thread?]

Edited by denimdestroyedmylife on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:20 AM

[Edge_Of_Denim]

Quote: [isn't this the 45rpm thread?]

Yeah, but what's life without the occasional diversion?

WORD UP,

EVERYBODY SAY, WHEN YOU HEAR THE CALL

YOU GOT TO GET IT UNDERWAY.

[john11f]

I just read the tag inside my new sorahiko. apparently, the indigo used IS natural indigo. fyi, for those who didn't know. not bad for $210 pair of jeans huh.

[wild_whiskey]

Quote:

I just read the tag inside my new sorahiko. apparently, the indigo used IS natural indigo. fyi, for those who didn't know. not bad for $210 pair of jeans huh.

--- Original message by john11f on May 6, 2006 08:37 PM

john, Im not sure that that's true. The tag may be misleading. Can you please tell us what it says?

I could have sworn all Sorahiko are synthetic. Only special jeans such as Aihiko and Jomon are natural indigo.

[xcoldricex]

i don't think it is. i think they use the same tag for all jeans.. it says something like used sythetic/natural indigo or something to that effect- which is a bit confusing. i'm too lazy to take off my jeans and look at it haha.

yeah what wild whiskey said was what the guy at the 45rpm store told me.

[xcoldricex]

does anyone have pictures of jomon's and umii's? i don't even know what they look like. also what leather patches do they use?

[Geowu]

xcoldricex :

you can find pics of the jomons in this very topic.

wild_whiskey et al. :

the label on the sorahiko says:

"This product is made of (natural indigodyed/indigo dyed)fabric. With repeated wearing and washing,the color of the garment will pleasantly fade. Please be aware of the following: 1.The color may fade due to washing or friction.Do not wear,wash or dry with whites or lighter colors. 2.The color may fade due to perspiration or moisture.Wash promptly. 3.Do not bleach. 4.Consistent exposure to sunlight may alter the color.Line dry and store in shade."

[john11f]

yup. that's what it says on mine...

[asfberg]

that label is even on the shirts

[xcoldricex]

geowu: sorry i meant to only ask about the umii's. are there any pics of those?

Edited by xcoldricex on May 7, 2006 at 09:35 AM

[john11f]

so, the label is misrepresenting?

[leviathan]

The label is not misrepresentative, it's just confusing. I had the same thought (i.e.e that I'd got a bargain!) when I bought the sorahikos, but I also have a pair of aihikos and the label is exactly the same. The way it's written is in the alternative - so that it could be either. Having said that if they were doing it right, they'd score out the inapplicable one, or at least say "or" instead of "/".

By the way there are pic sof a guy wearing the UMIs and Jomons on www.rby45rpm.com.

[ejk]

does anyone know if the there are other versions of 45 rpm jeans that have a similar fit to the jamons (slim), but with a lighter price tag? doesn't have to be natural indigo, etc...

[xcoldricex]

i found out that the 45rpm store also carries a model no one talks about.

kazehiko

zipper fly

non selvedge

comes only in distressed washes.

[asfberg]

those are the "econo" line

not avail in ny stores

probably a reason why no one mentions them here

[SpillSuppressor]

I'm considering getting a pair of soraihko's via coldrice, and had some questions about the sizing. I'm currently wearing a pair a nudie slim jims size 28 and would like something similar but hopefully a little more fitted. I understand the cut of the soraihko is more generous, but I was hoping someone who knows about both could make a size suggestion for the waist. Any input is greatly appreciated.

[trinket]

the sorahiko's won't be slimmer than the slim jims.

perhaps you should be looking at other cuts. or other brands if the jomons are too pricey.

read some of the other threads. perhaps the SD103s are suitable?

_trinket

[SpillSuppressor]

Yeah, from what I read I think I'm just going to have to accept a looser fitting through the legs. The black/indigo overdye is what I'm really interested with the sorahiko's, and when I called 45rpm they said this was the only cut with that denim. I guess I was hoping someone would know what a size 28 nudie waist would translate into in the sorahiko's. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll look into the SD103's.

[PG2G]

I'm pretty sure other brands make a black overdye also, maybe in a cut thats better for you. For example, the APC New Standard is available in overdyed black.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

Fullcount 1474 is also black overdyed and there are Ironheart's that are also overdyed black

http://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/rebirth/BS-1.html

våran panel tycker att man ska koka pastan i två år

[xcoldricex]

weird. cause the prices aren't very economical relatively. just a bit more and you're already at the sorahiko price point. i guess its for people that want distressed washes without having to pay for sorahiko distressed prices.

[tangerine]

Quote:

Fullcount 1474 is also black overdyed and there are Ironheart's that are also overdyed black

http://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/rebirth/BS-1.html

--- Original message by horriblyjollyjinx on May 29, 2006 08:35 AM

Uh-oh. Do you have a link to the Full Counts? I saw some auction pics but couldn't find store pics.

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f43563407

ask a cassowary

[xcoldricex]

ah wtf. i know this is getting off track but i'm looking at the full count catalog and they're trying to do dior. they also have "platinum denim" that's ~$4200?!?

need goods from japan? email me. getting goods to you before your rice gets cold.

Edited by xcoldricex on May 29, 2006 at 11:23 AM

[horriblyjollyjinx]

http://www.bazoo-shop.com/gp07.html and fullcount.co.jp

våran panel tycker att man ska koka pastan i två år

[xcoldricex]

FULL COUNT 1500 SLIM NATURAL FLARE Length / 34 36 27ｰ36 / 409,500yen 38 / 420,000yen

that has to be a joke

need goods from japan? email me. getting goods to you before your rice gets cold.

[tangerine]

Thanks 'jinx!

I have mixed feelings about the white stitching, but they are great-fitting jeans and that Zimbabwe cotton is amazing stuff.

For some reason when Google translated the page, the pics of the model are covering part of the text. Too bad, it was just talking about the falling being purple (the black overdye.)

Do you read Japanese? How do you have such an encyclopedic knowledge of all the brands? You're always way ahead of me! ha ha

xcoldricex, I guess that guy talking about Dior Eternal 811s wasn't too far off?

ask a cassowary