Raw for Women

[machine-language]

I am bummed because I got the waist taken in on my Baldwin Ten size 25 (the ones whose legs fit just right but the waist was too big) - the end result feels much more comfortable but so visually wrong  The "center" back seam is now an "off-center" back seam.  Measurements confirm it is actually off-center and not just in my head.  Sigh. That's 0 for 2 now, trying to improve jeans by getting the waist taken in; both times I felt like the alteration made the jeans even worse than they were before.

I guess I shouldn't worry though because it gives me more reasons to wear my Flat Head balder jeans daily without fail (those are starting to break in very nicely and I can now button them while standing; also walking in them no longer feels like a resistance exercise for my TFLs)

[ColonelAngus]

Did you have your jeans taken in by a denim specialist or a tailor?

[machine-language]

18 hours ago, ColonelAngus said:

Did you have your jeans taken in by a denim specialist or a tailor?

a denim specialist ... I guess we have step 1 figured out because they are sending me a return shipping label so they can take a look and figure out what happened.  I don't know what to do if it's not fixable though.

in case anyone is curious here are pictures ... if I line up the center back seam with one of the lines on my floor, then the problem is visible... the right side of the waistband covers 3 full floor boards, but the left side does not

to rule out the possibility of "what if the jeans were folded in a weird place for that picture of the back," I turned them over with the waistband folds in the same place and took a picture from the front

so the front looks totally normal to me.  but the back has the center back seam too far to the wearer's left (about 0.8" too far)

likewise when I'm wearing them, the front looks symmetrical, but the back looks like the back seam and both back pockets are sitting about 1 inch too far to the left (because they are stretchy the difference is a little more).  I sent a picture of that to the denim specialist who did the alteration.

 

 

[machine-language]

I think in the future I'm going to stick to buying jeans that are already perfect in the thighs and upper block  like lower leg taper and hemming only.  I could even picture a thigh taper going badly for me if I miscalculate 0.1" because I like my jeans to sit so tight

my very first attempt to get a downsizing service about a year ago went badly too (railcar vixen), but that one was clearly my fault ...I started out with the wrong size because I had no idea how much they would stretch, then I miscalculated whether or not downsizing could help, and also I didn't know yet that loose thighs + higher rise + taking in the waist = jeans will sit several inches higher on me .... so the back pockets were way too high afterwards... that attempt was symmetrical but totally unwearable because it looked like mom butt with the pockets too high. I ended up donating those to a thrift store and just thinking of it as an expensive learning mistake.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Bummer. Surprised to hear a denim specialist messed up your jeans. Hope your diemma gets worked out

[machine-language]

19 minutes ago, ColonelAngus said:

Bummer. Surprised to hear a denim specialist messed up your jeans. Hope your diemma gets worked out

me too i really wanted to have a truly tight skinny pair of jeans and this one seemed like they could be perfect for it if I could just get the waistband tighter  now they are unweaeable....basically just cat bedding

[blaewen_blue]

I had the same thing happen to me - I have a pair of the 77bsp  3sixteens that stretched a tonne in the waist. So I had a tailor take 3" out of the waist, and now the pockets are different distances from the centre seam! I sometimes wear them around the house, but that's it. They weren't my favourites so I wasn't too upset - more of a lessons learned type thing.

I agree with you, a new pair has to be pretty perfect in the thighs/top block for me to bite these days! 

Glad to hear your Balders are working out! It can be a pain to get the fit right but it's so good when you get a pair you love. 

 

 

[machine-language]

16 hours ago, blaewen_blue said:

I had the same thing happen to me - I have a pair of the 77bsp  3sixteens that stretched a tonne in the waist. So I had a tailor take 3" out of the waist, and now the pockets are different distances from the centre seam! I sometimes wear them around the house, but that's it. They weren't my favourites so I wasn't too upset - more of a lessons learned type thing.

I agree with you, a new pair has to be pretty perfect in the thighs/top block for me to bite these days! 

Glad to hear your Balders are working out! It can be a pain to get the fit right but it's so good when you get a pair you love. 

 

 

that stinks...back pockets can really make or break it I think   off center or unsymmetrical or too far apart or too big or too small or too high or too low...noooooo, any of those are so wrong  

the Balders are my favorite jeans now, starting to fade a little bit and they broke in enough to be comfortable... if I am 100% honest though, the lower back muffin top didn't go away yet even though they are stretching out nicely.  I decided to try to fix the lower back muffin top with exercise first if I can though.  

[machine-language]

Just in case anyone is curious how much the flat head balder size 27 stretched out ... a lot in the waist and back rise; a little in the thighs; none in the front rise:

• waistband: was 30.5" - now 32"
• back rise: was 12" - now 13"
• front rize: was 8" - now 8"
• thigh measured BIG style right at the crotch: was 11" - now 11.25" 

the lower back muffin top did not go away completely when the back rise stretched.  It's not the jeans; the belt is sitting right on bones in the perfect spot where my belt always wants to sit even if the rise is higher; I just feel too fluffy in general.  I am trying to lose 3 or 4 pounds of fat.  these have a lot of favorite-jeans potential for me if I can fix what's left of the muffin top.  

Subtle fades are appearing fast but I'll wait until they have more wear before I start taking fade pictures.

please please do not allow me to talk myself into buying a new pair of skinny stretch jeans yet to replace my Baldwin Ten size 25 ...lol... I keep repeating to myself "Flat Head balder will fade faster if I have fewer jeans in rotation"  

[machine-language]

"fixing muffin top with exercise" lol what did I get myself into?   I have lost 2 pounds already in the past 3 weeks but the jeans are getting harder to fit into instead of easier....feels like my legs are suddenly bigger for 24 hours after I do any lower body exercise.  So there are days when I can't even pull them all the way up my thighs.  still chipping away at it though because if I can lose a few pounds then inevitably some of it will come off my thighs and some will come off my lower back and then they would be so perfect.  I'd like to be lean enough to fit into them even right after squats.

Edited July 15, 2017 by machine-language

[machine-language]

need input y'all 

After swimming in the ocean, I put on my Baldwin Ten size 27 while my bathing suit was still wet.  And now they smell like ass and a steaming pile of rotting fish in a New York City subway.  They have only subtle fades....I was hoping to wear them longer before I wash the first time.  Some whiskering is visible and some fades on the seams but that is about it.  Should I....

1) wash them asap

2) freeze them and hope it gets better

3) do nothing and hope it gets better

4) wear them swimming in the ocean and roll around in the sand and then wash them for real in the bathtub

 

option 4 is only possible if I do it before Friday so that they have time to dry before I head back home (I don't live near the beach, just visiting)

[Cucoo]

Just wash them.

[machine-language]

the deed is done...they are washed...I hope "tide free and clear pods" don't contain bleach because that's what I had to wash them with.

I put them outside to dry...hopefully the landlord doesn't mind if some of those shells turn blue

[machine-language]

 i have treated myself to this pair of samurai geisha size 2 straight leg.  (I had the wide boot cut samurai geisha already but not the straight leg.)

 I know I buy too many jeans, but ugghghh I love them so much. feeling like they look just fine.  good whether I lose weight or not.  i haven't given up on the idea of losing a few to make the flat head balders work better for me but in the meantime I really wanted these. 

[ColonelAngus]

There's no such thing as too many jeans  (says the guy with 13-14 pairs)

[blaewen_blue]

Agree. And I'm jealous you have the Geishas, I can't see the fit working for me, but I really want that denim! They look great on you.

[machine-language]

thanks I am glad they look good, I think I have 7 pairs of jeans at this point (several of them are the same brand/style just in multiple sizes).  It's starting to feel excessive but maybe it's fine lol

I really wanted something that could work with those black high heel pumps without completely hiding the shoe... my other samurai geisha and momotaros are the right length but they completely hide the shoe.  my pickiness is satisfied ... for now  

 

[machine-language]

I ended up throwing my Baldwin Ten size 27 into a 2nd wash with warm water at the laundromat - because that first wash just wasn't thorough enough to get all of the ocean smell out.  They smell great now.  My 6 month fades became a little more visible in that wash but still subtle.   I am actually happy with how this turned out.  Subtle isn't bad for these jeans. I want to try to get some higher contrast fades with my samurai jeans ... just making a mental note to never allow those to touch ocean water

bonus: they shrank a bit, which removes my temptation to buy a smaller pair of skinny jeans ...now they fit perfectly  

 

[Taylor_RFG]

Here is an old Railcar Vixen X021 from a customer who sent these in for repair in the crotch, love when old Railcars come in especially womens.

[Taylor_RFG]

The Donna High Waist is back at Railcar Fine Goods. Steven updated the old Donna pattern and I must say, the fit is amazing! I am on the left, I am wearing the first prototype, its about a month old with two washes. This stretch raw fabric is beautiful the indigos get darker and pop more after a soak. Jess @aegishandcraft on ig came to visit us this week and she is wearing the final piece on the right. So if anyone is looking for a super comfy stretch raw skinny, I'd recommend this!

 

Size	Waistband	Front rise	Back rise	Thigh @ crotch	Thigh @ 2 in below crotch	Hip	Knee	Bottom opening	Inseam length
24	12.5	11	12.5	9	8.25	15.75	6	5	30
25	12.75	11	12.5	9.25	8.5	16.25	6.25	5	30.75
26	13	11	12.5	9.75	9	17.25	6.75	5.25	31.25
27	14	12	13.5	10.25	9.5	17.5	6.75	5.25	31.25
28	15	12	13.75	10.75	10	18.5	7	5.25	31.25
29	16	12	13.75	11	10.25	18.75	7.25	5.5	31.25
30	17	12	14	11.5	10.5	19.5	7.5	5.5	31.5
31	18	12	14	12	11	21	8	5.5	31.5

[machine-language]

these are my Baldwin Ten size 27 after maybe 1 year of wear and 4 washes

these are my Samurai Geisha straight leg jeans size 2 which I haven't worn much yet at all, but I pulled them out of the closet...I want to start wearing them a lot more often and see what they turn into 

[Taylor_RFG]

Hey guys! We released a new limited run at Railcar the other day, I wanted to share it with you. This is a beautiful light blue color with a red selvedge line. It is about 11 ounces with little stretch in it. We have this available for preorder we only have enough fabric to make about 15-20 jeans. Let me know if you guys have any questions!

https://www.railcarfinegoods.com/Railcar_Donna_PO2_p/railcardonapo2.htm

 

 

[babydials]

53 minutes ago, Taylor_RFG said:

Hey guys! We released a new limited run at Railcar the other day, I wanted to share it with you. This is a beautiful light blue color with a red selvedge line. It is about 11 ounces with little stretch in it. We have this available for preorder we only have enough fabric to make about 15-20 jeans. Let me know if you guys have any questions!

https://www.railcarfinegoods.com/Railcar_Donna_PO2_p/railcardonapo2.htm

 

 

pretty

[Taylor_RFG]

Finally an indigo Selvedge Donna! Made from 12 ounce about 3% stretch indigo selvedge. This fabric is a very good weight it feels nice and thick with a good amount of stretch to keep your figure nice and condensed but still super comfortable/soft. This will also be limited since we only have a few rolls of this X046 denim. 

Here is Sarah our production girl, she is wearing a size 27 fresh off the machines.

 Railcar Donna X046

Edited August 11, 2018 by Taylor_RFG

[machine-language]

selling my Momotaro 8005SP size 27 on eBay with week with no minimum bid (auction ends Sunday September 9). They were purchased new from Denimio, worn a few times and not washed.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Momotaro-8005SP-sanforized-selvedge-jeans-size-27-raw-denim-for-women/253846925556?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

I loved these and wanted them to work ...very flattering back pocket placement, and the low rise is perfect for someone with wide hip bones like me.  But they did not stretch anywhere near as much as my other raw denim during break-in, and I don't think my hips are going to get any smaller, so they must go.
 

Edited September 2, 2018 by machine-language

[Taylor_RFG]

I see a lot more lower/mid rises! At Railcar we have been getting a ton of request to bring back our Vixen fit so decided to release it in a nice 12 ounce Cone Mills stretch denim. We now shell-stitch all of our fly interiors, here is a shot of it below.

Vixen X008

[neptunecitylocal]

IH-888s in all their st8-legged glory

[Taylor_RFG]

Broken in Railcar Chore Coat and Starlet Raws. 

Chore Coat is a 12 ounce American Duck canvas unisex chore pattern.

size xs

Starlet Raws are 11 ounce Turkish stretch denim.

 

 

 

[Taylor_RFG]

At Railcar we released the X008 American Cone Mills White Oak stretch selvedge in our high waist Donna fit.

Donna X008

[Taylor_RFG]

Women’s Raw Starlet 031 new vs about 1 year of everyday wear with multiple washes. We also have this denim available in a Men’s Spikes Standard Issue.

Women’s Starlet Raw 031

Men’s Spikes Standard 031