The Evolution of Jeans: Pictures, Scones and Tea

[dino might]

I don't understand how peoples crotches are busting so soon/easily. Bike riding? Huge ballzack? Probably not the latter.

well, i never ride bikes... so i guess it has to be the latter.

[bruised]

2003 edition LVC '47's

a lil bit over a year. they are in rotation with about 5 other pairs. about 5 soak-rinse-tumble machine dry-sessions. color is way off

[HEWSINATOR]

might i ask your washing habits? frequency? wachine or hand, soap or none? i think i might start lightly washing all mine every two months or so..

On my first jeans, RRDG I went 8 months (?) and then did a hard wash. They are disintegrating on me. My second pair that I wear regularly are SJ Drys. I soak them at least once a month in the bathtub, agitate a bit with my hands and use a touch of Body Shop soap that was by the tub (I need to get some Bronner's but can not find it). These simply seem to hold up a lot better, fading not cracking/fraying. Note this may be from starching too. And on my Eternals I follow the same as my SJs. The crotch on them is getting worn, but I am sure this is from fit. I realize this is not scientific by any stretch, but from seeing others jeans that seem to last many years vs. people's who have pants wear out in 6 mos, the difference is frequency of washing.

shouldnt it be the other way round? that goes against im guessing what the majority of superfuture would say.

I think so.

[LaiShin]

shouldnt it be the other way round? that goes against im guessing what the majority of superfuture would say.

The "don't-wash-for 6mths" rule of thumb was established way back and that was how raw denim was introduced to newbies. It was based on the assumption that washing removes indigo to the point that it'll show substantial amount of fading (not wear).

Of couse, it depends on how much wear it's put in and how well the denim retain their indigo, etc. But I just feel that people should know that regular washing doesn't mean u can't get high contrast fades, and jeans last longer as a result too. By not washing, ppl will start to realise that "MyLifeDestroyedDenim" [no pun intended:D ]

[jwied82]

well, i think the problem is that, most people (non sufu'ers/denim-heads) wash their jeans very frequently (once a week or so) and don't wear them particularly hard or long or often (because they have other pairs they wear) between washes, so they end up looked washed out with-out no real wear pattern.

There are examples here of good contrast natural fades with frequent washing, but frequent to us is like once a month.

[jwied82]

felt like taking some pics so here's yet another update on my raw black cures:

Coming along nicely, i think... except combs seem to be really slow in developing. theres some creasing but not really any fading:

[arthur]

skull 5010xx 6x6 o/w, 1 soak

3.5 months, worn 95% of the time.

no flash

i took these today, and they were just soaked (2 days ago) with samurai thunder soap in warm water.

i'm really hoping my back pockets don't die on me soon.

[hilite]

WOW. The color and contrast on those are amazing! Good stuff.

[Chicken]

that is some superfast fade on the skulls, arthur!

did you post those on the skull thread, too? i'm sure shinichi would love to see them.

[mr fluffernutter]

they look supergood arthur

[arthur]

thanks everyone... and good idea, i just xposted them.

[still]

crosspost.. my eternals at 1 yr and some months.. 5 washes

[electronic cheetah]

I don't understand how peoples crotches are busting so soon/easily. Bike riding? Huge ballzack? Probably not the latter.

The lower and tighter you wear your jeans, the quicker they'll bust in the crotch-area. It took me about five-six months until my Nudie busted.

Edit: Your Skulls are amazing, arthur.

[Dex_star]

i cant give u anymore rep still

but ur eternals are amazing

edit- and someone buy my eternals so i can get the right size!

[lilldavid]

skull 5010xx 6x6 o/w, 1 soak

3.5 months, worn 95% of the time.

no flash

i took these today, and they were just soaked (2 days ago) with samurai thunder soap in warm water.

i'm really hoping my back pockets don't die on me soon.

Fanfuckintastic!

[Dex_star]

didnt see em at first

beautiful skulls up there

twice as much wear as mine and less time

[justinbaily21]

crosspost.. my eternals at 1 yr and some months.. 5 washes

Seeing the beginnings of greatness! Keep it up!

[BrokenGlass]

My favorite part of all the skull jeans I see on here is the patch. Perfect.

and Still those eternals are looking great

[dino might]

The "don't-wash-for 6mths" rule of thumb was established way back and that was how raw denim was introduced to newbies. It was based on the assumption that washing removes indigo to the point that it'll show substantial amount of fading (not wear).

Of couse, it depends on how much wear it's put in and how well the denim retain their indigo, etc. But I just feel that people should know that regular washing doesn't mean u can't get high contrast fades, and jeans last longer as a result too. By not washing, ppl will start to realise that "MyLifeDestroyedDenim" [no pun intended:D ]

i didnt say that one couldnt get high contrast with frequent washing, i just said your hard and fast "frequent washing=high contrast" isnt fact. sure its possible, but not typical, same goes the "never washing=softer fade" again possible, but not the norm

[cultpop 0217]

Some observations I've made:

-jeans that are washed regularly, get high contrast fades

-those who don't until 6mths later, have more overall fades

if all other factors are equal, the opposite is true.

i do agree that not washing your jeans can accelerate their demise but too frequent washing will give you more of an overall fade and can also decrease the life of your jeans.

wear your jeans until they are too dirty, whether its one month or six.

[dino might]

if all other factors are equal, the opposite is true.

wear your jeans until they are too dirty, whether its one month or six.

my jims didnt even smell unless you stuck your face right down in them

[twistedtrees]

(I need to get some Bronner's but can not find it).

Try an organic food store/hippie type place. I went into a local co-op just to see if they had any natural/organic soap and they actually had Dr. Bronner's. Of course they were in these gallon-sized industrial jugs that I had to pump some out, but I got like a small jar of the stuff for like $3. Although it should be a local co-op or farmer's market type of place, I doubt Whole Foods or Wild Oats will have it.

[gaodatong]

you can also order it online

[LaiShin]

i didnt say that one couldnt get high contrast with frequent washing, i just said your hard and fast "frequent washing=high contrast" isnt fact. sure its possible, but not typical, same goes the "never washing=softer fade" again possible, but not the norm

DM, the 2nd part wasn't directed at u. It was more like a reminder to those dirty folks that washing often can cause more harm than good. And frequent/often by SuFu standard, is every month or two.

i do agree that not washing your jeans can accelerate their demise but too frequent washing will give you more of an overall fade and can also decrease the life of your jeans.

I guess it's up to the person wearing to find the healthy balance, 'cos I always believed that starch + dirt kills denim faster than washing does.

[Ryan]

cross posted from the "favorite articles" thread

just some STF's honestly not sure exactly how old they are, anyway yeah.

[Guest jeffvyain]

the skulls rock. hard.

[Louis]

Here are my old APC's kinda retired i wear them on and off from month to month

4 months - 1 machine wash

[sexasomniac]

^^ damn man, you should put more wear into those, theyre looking nice.

[HEWSINATOR]

you can also order it online

Ya, thank you. I realize that, but you have to order over 20 bucks and I assume pay for shipping. I have not had problems this far and to order online is just too much hassle for me.

[Louis]

^^ damn man, you should put more wear into those, theyre looking nice.

thanks but theyre too tight