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[chucksvintage]

So I am not sure how many of you are familiar with a book called Denim Legends. But I have to post about it.For starters they got the History all wrong. Levi Strauss did not only produce clothing for " golddiggers and miners" he produced clothing for all men who came out to the west to make there stay more comfortable. when he made the first jeans in 1873. Before then he just wholesaled dry goods.. . And second the first pair of Levis was not made out of "tarpaulin material" it was made out of denim. That story got started over 60 years ago because Levi's lost their records in the 1906 earthquake.If they contacted Lynn Downey they would have know that. And belt loops were not added untill 1922 and the fifth pocket was not added untill 1901. The part about how the first pair was 22 cents. How would anybody know how much they cost considering that all info burned in the San Francisco fire. The part about all levis being cone denim is false The first mill they used was Amoskeag in New Hampshire. All 501 levis were cone denim untill the 80's. Then the part about how " Natural indigo being hardly used by 1913 natural indigo was used up untill the 1920's. The last 501 Redline was between 1983 and 86. I am not trying to sound like a know it all but I really think that a $975 book should have been alittle more acurate. I know Lynn Downey to be very helpful and If anybody would have just ask her about Levis history it would be correct. Books are for learning and you really cant learn from false information.

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[Charlie Delta]

Who's that lady, she seems pretty...

... And second the first pair of Levis was not made out of "tarpaulin material" it was made out of denim. That story got started over 60 years ago because Levi's lost their records in the 1906 earthquake....

OK, so now I'm confused but that might just be from all the info floating around in my head regarding Levi's.

So you're saying that the first pair of Levi's wasn't the cottonduck version of the sidepocket jeans?

I somehow was under the impression that the first pair of overalls that rivet's were used in by Davis were made from cottonduck*, dunno why, I guess I got that all wrong then...

*ofcourse there's a difference between the first Levi's overalls and the first pants that Davis fitted with rivets...

[Bill2]

Who's that lady, she seems pretty...

OK, so now I'm confused but that might just be from all the info floating around in my head regarding Levi's.

So you're saying that the first pair of Levi's wasn't the cottonduck version of the sidepocket jeans?

I somehow was under the impression that the first pair of overalls that rivet's were used in by Davis were made from cottonduck*, dunno why, I guess I got that all wrong then...

*ofcourse there's a difference between the first Levi's overalls and the first pants that Davis fitted with rivets...

I was under the same impression Cotton..... Not familiar with the term "tarpaulin", but as I've always heard from informed sources, that the first riveted Jacob Davis pants were cotton duck, and that these pants spawned the subsequent conversations between Davis and Levi Strauss. Maybe it is incorrect to call these the "first Levis" however. The first pants made under the Levi Strauss name were in fact denim....again....as far as I understand

[chucksvintage]

That is Stacey. She is a permented fixiture here at Chucks.And yes she pretty.

It's true that the first riveted pants Jacob Davis made were of white duck. But that was when he was just working as a tailor in Reno. After he and Levi Strauss got the patent on May 20, 1873 - and after Davis moved to San Francisco to work with Levi - the pants were made of blue denim and brown duck. The side pocket style was also made of denim but came later. The "XX" is the first jean and that is the first 501. This jean didn't get its number 501 until 1890, but it was the same product.You can always email Lynn Downey with historical questions at [email protected]

[Charlie Delta]

Thanks so much for clearing that up!

New question, were there ever any examples found of the overalls that Jacob Davis fitted with rivets before he went to Mr. Strauss with the idea.

His try out pairs or samples so to speak?

Oh also, so the "XX's" were straight away done in both brown duck and denim? Or just denim at first? Was there a price difference between the materials used?

[chucksvintage]

There may have been some examples of Jacob Davis's first riveted duck products at the company but Levi's lost everything in the 1906 earthquake and fire. The XX was only in denim. Duck products were probably cheaper, but there are no pricing records from that time because of the fire.

[Charlie Delta]

That Darn fire!!!

Making things dificult for us denim geeks!

Stacey is still pretty though...

[chucksvintage]

I know. It sucks.

Yes she is.

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[jake431]

As a flight jacket nerd, I gotta show some love for this shot. Great CBI ATC jacket!

-Jake

[chucksvintage]

thanks.I love . Our friend cooper shot the pics .He is really great.

[azn8oi]

hey madeline!

I actually dropped by a couple of weekends ago to say hi, but you weren't there. stacy introduced herself to me though. she really belongs in the store; her cuteness is just perfect for her role, and she drops a lot of knowledge. Very nice lady, she is.

[Charlie Delta]

Great Pics!

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[edmond]

that new girl is hot.. really hot i love the phot shoots madeline! keep it coming!

[chucksvintage]

She a beutiful Women. Her name is Stacey.

[edmond]

how about setting us up mady?

[chucksvintage]

What is this a blind date service? Stop by the shop. She is always there.

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[Synthetic <3]

Can you give me any information on this jacket? It looks to be a remake of the nylon B-15 jacket from WWII. I'd appreciate it.

[chucksvintage]

It is a real one it is not a remake from ww2. It is completly deadstock.

[jake431]

It is a real one it is not a remake from ww2. It is completly deadstock.

It's a B-15A, yes? Who's the manufacturer on the label?

-Jake