Digital SLRs?

[ridingthehermes]

Looks digital and photoshoped, but it is taken with a 1940s yashica mat TLR, 120film, 160 speed.

Doesn't matter what camera you use, only the shot matters.

Unless you really screw up with apertures and lighting.

I suggest get a cheap analogue camera and go from there, good luck.

[Yardsale]

I hardly even used my dslr on this japan trip. I want a micro 4/3's camera.

[M4TM]

i highly recommend a Sony NEX5 - it has an APS-C sensor, is small enough to carry around with you, and can use many many lenses on it!

i've found it to be the perfect balance between DSLR (too big - I never carried it around) and P&S (much better image quality with the big sensor and various lenses).

[revoked]

^ I second the last few comments.

I owned a 40D for a year and took it out five time, if that. sold it for a m43 system and never looked back.

what's the point of having a great camera if it's never there for the shot?

also, i love to shoot people... hold a big honking dslr in front of your face and it makes people instantly shy away while a smaller camera isn't as intimidating.

i recommend the GF1 + 20mm f/1.7 kit that I've been using.

[bjornlg]

hey ali.. i got the non vc one and its great.. apparently good in low-light too!

[chantheman]

so sufu is a good forum for denim whats a good one for cameras in the case that i want to peruse the supermarket for used lens/accessories?

[alimenator]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=87

could be useful if you're into canon

[dremsburg]

fredmiranda.com

They get a lot of traffic, but you need to pay for a subscription to sell.

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I was planning on ordering a T2i tonight but after playing with a friend of mine's 5DII now I really want something a little more serious. Im not really trying to spend more than $1,000. What do you guys think of these options?

Option #1 Canon 60D Package - $1000.00

- Canon 60D Body - $900.00

- Canon 50mm 1.8 - $100

Option #2 Canon T2i Package I - $1000.00

- Canon T2i Body - $700

- Canon 35mm 2.0 - $300.00

Option #3 Canon T2i Package II - $1,000.00

- Canon T2i Body - $700

- Canon BG-E8 Battery Grip - $150.00

- Canon LP-E8 Battery - $50.00

- Canon 50mm 1.8 $100.00

I already have an old 18-55mm kit lens too. I'm leaning towards the 60D. Any suggestions? :confused:

[alimenator]

skip the kit lens and get a fixed lens with either the t2i or the 60D IMO....

[chantheman]

amazon has a good deal right now

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[milosz]

50mm on any APS-C body is going to be a shortish telephoto (equivalent of an 80mm on regular 35mm) - would be tough to use as an all-around lens, particularly indoors.

I'd look for the Sigma 30mm or the Canon 28/1.8 instead. It will add cost but be much more usable.

[haptronic]

i have been collecting vintage nikkor glass, and the old ai lenses do not meter with my d40.

just got an amazingly sharp 180mm 2.8 ED [crops to 270mm] and was offered a 28mm 2.0 ED which would be sharper and a better walk around than my 35mm 2.0.

thinking it is time to upgrade my body to a d7000 so i at least get metering. the old nikkor glass is cheap and amazing if you can deal with manual focus

[koven]

i have been collecting vintage nikkor glass, and the old ai lenses do not meter with my d40.

just got an amazingly sharp 180mm 2.8 ED [crops to 270mm] and was offered a 28mm 2.0 ED which would be sharper and a better walk around than my 35mm 2.0.

thinking it is time to upgrade my body to a d7000 so i at least get metering. the old nikkor glass is cheap and amazing if you can deal with manual focus

I love my nikkor 50mm 1.2 AIS

These days i pretty much only use it on film camera though.

[chantheman]

are canon lens made in japan > any other canon lens?

[alimenator]

why do you need a 50mm when you already have a 35mm?

[koven]

thanks to this thread's help, i got a nikkor 35mm f/1.8 two months ago, and i love it

i'm thinking of getting the 50mm f/1.8 (yes, i know it won't AF on my d40), but i've heard that manual focus isn't so bad

cop/not?

No, that lens sucks. Get the 50mm 1.4g. It will auto focus on your d40 and its just a better overall lens. Some portraits ive taken with it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrelllis/4773279357/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrelllis/4773918890/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrelllis/5044476171/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrelllis/5045095068

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrelllis/4962191677/

[aleopold]

+1 to this^

the 50 1.8 is nice if you're just starting out and strapped for cash, but the 1.4 is worth waiting and saving a bit more cash.

[vitasoy]

been debating this for along time, let's see what you guys have to say

canon 60d or 7d?

[koven]

been debating this for along time, let's see what you guys have to say

canon 60d or 7d?

What camera do you have now? Id go for the 7d, it has an older sensor but is more professional and most likely has better features and a more powerful processor (faster af, higher fps, ect).

[Nostalgic]

^ mostly portrait work

50mm for portraits?

need the 85mm.

been debating this for along time, let's see what you guys have to say

canon 60d or 7d?

these questions are pointless.

depends on what you want to use it for.

[Guest nooblet333]

Anyone likes the olympus ep-1? I just got it been messing around with it.

[haptronic]

50mm for portraits?

need the 85mm.

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the 50mm crops out to 75mm which is a resonable length for portraits if you are not afraid to get close to the subject. i have both a 50mm and a 85 mm and have used both for portraits with some success.

No, that lens sucks. Get the 50mm 1.4g. It will auto focus on your d40 and its just a better overall lens. Some portraits ive taken with it.

what basis do you have that the 1.4 is a better lens. i know it is faster and will autofocus.

every comparison of the two lenses that i have seen say the optics are almost exact. except that the 1.4 shows greater barrel distortion, and more chromatic aberration.

f 1.4 at 50mm is not useful for portraits given the incredibly small focal plane with nikon's 1.4 crop you would be talking around 5 cm of usable DOF at 1.5m from the subject. i don't know anyone who has a head less than 5cm deep.

neither lens is going to be useful for what he wants it for until around f 2.8 at which point both lenses test are very close in sharpness. and at 3.5 there is no obvious difference.

i'm thinking of getting the 50mm f/1.8 (yes, i know it won't AF on my d40), but i've heard that manual focus isn't so bad

cop/not?

i have the 1.8 and a d40 it is an nicely sharp lens, as far as manual focus use, it is not as nice as the earlier nikkor manual focus lenses [as it is designed for af] however it is doable. watch with the small viewfinder of the d40 that you don't give yourself eyestrain using manual focus

[Nostalgic]

neither lens is going to be useful for what he wants it for until around f 2.8 at which point both lenses test are very close in sharpness. and at 3.5 there is no obvious difference.

This.

The difference between 1.4 and 1.8 is minuscule, especially if you are shooting on a Cropped Body DSLR, (ISO performance obviously). I Use a Mamiya 7II regularly with the 80mm f/4 lens. I Seldom need anything Larger than f/5.6.

But the point is, get the 1.8, you'll only be shooting wide open around 10% of the time.

And the 1.4 and 1.8 have IDENTICAL Optics. It would be a different story if you were comparing a Zeiss 50mm and A Nikon, but even then it takes a Pro eye to spot the difference.

Don't catch Golf Club syndrome in photography, like 90% of these guys.

Just go shoot.

[vitasoy]

koven, i shot with a 40d and i'm leaning more towards the 7d for those reasons. i've had the chance to test both of them out, but i'm having trouble deciding, which leads to nostalgic being right.

these questions are pointless since it really depends on personal preference, but i'm just trying to get some opinions.

and wouldn't lens be more important "depending on what i use it for"?

on a side note, i agree with you, 85mm 1.8 (canon, not sure about nikkor) for portrait = winwin

[Nostalgic]

I mean with the lens, yeah i guess that is correct. But i am guessing you are a casual photographer, using it more so in the day time, and if it is being used at Night using flash, I'm sure the 60D is sufficient with a 50mm 1.8, Save the money and buy a nice tripod. I feel like "Photographers" nowadays never use Long exposures, unless it is some HDR bullshit or another. But this is turning into a rant slowly. The 1.8 will suffice, save the money and buy a nice pair of sneakers.

cheers

[vitasoy]

wait, i'm kind of confused.. are you combining two discussions together? mine was just about the canon 60d vs 7d, but lol @ long exposure/hdr bullshit, too funny because that's exactly how i feel

[Nostalgic]

oh i got you confused with someone else.

But I honestly can't help you with that digital comparison.

I say buy a nice Rangefinder, and some film.

[alimenator]

koven, i shot with a 40d and i'm leaning more towards the 7d for those reasons. i've had the chance to test both of them out, but i'm having trouble deciding, which leads to nostalgic being right.

What about the 40D did you not like? and what trouble do you have about deciding between the 7D and the 60D? because the 60D would most likely provide you all the features you would need in a dslr and would save you around $500....

[vitasoy]

the 40D was fine, it just didn't have video and i've had mine for a bit over 2 years now, i want to upgrade.. for me, the price difference is lower, i guess that's why i'm having a little bit of a hard time

i'm going to have both these cameras in my hands tomorrow, should be able to finally reach a decision then lol