SugarCane 1990's M-Series Archive

[julian-wolf]

One day soon I’ll leave academia and we’ll be able to compete on fairer ground…

[chicote]

Just purchased an M11026 jacket in very good used condition, it’s coming from Malaysia so will probably be a few weeks before it arrives. In the meantime, I’m wondering if any of the sugarcane experts here can say anything about the 13oz “extra heavy coarse weave” denim used in the jacket. I know 13oz isn’t quite “heavy weight” denim anymore but am hoping to use this as a work and motorcycling jacket come spring, and hopefully take the place of my thrashed Tenderloin carhartt repro. What relationship does the 13oz denim have to the 14oz “coarse weave” denim used in the M41001 (which I know has at least served @Double 0 Soulnicely in a work application)? I’ll be sure to publish my own findings when the jacket arrives; until then, thanks for any information!

 

edit: also wondering if anyone knows about the m41328 jeans? they are a black denim and they look m nice, but the seller claims they are 70% cotton and 30% rayon and I’m not sure if that sounds good or not lol.

Edited February 27, 2023 by chicote

[Talan]

3 hours ago, chicote said:

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edit: also wondering if anyone knows about the m41328 jeans? they are a black denim and they look m nice, but the seller claims they are 70% cotton and 30% rayon and I’m not sure if that sounds good or not lol.

Check Sugar Cane Denim thread back to the end of March 2021 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Talan

[Double 0 Soul]

Nice find^ i'd forgotten all about that..

Here's a link

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Double 0 Soul

[Double 0 Soul]

4 hours ago, chicote said:

Just purchased an M11026 jacket in very good used condition, it’s coming from Malaysia so will probably be a few weeks before it arrives. In the meantime, I’m wondering if any of the sugarcane experts here can say anything about the 13oz “extra heavy coarse weave” denim used in the jacket. I know 13oz isn’t quite “heavy weight” denim anymore but am hoping to use this as a work and motorcycling jacket come spring, and hopefully take the place of my thrashed Tenderloin carhartt repro. What relationship does the 13oz denim have to the 14oz “coarse weave” denim used in the M41001 (which I know has at least served @Double 0 Soulnicely in a work application)? I’ll be sure to publish my own findings when the jacket arrives; until then, thanks for any information!

 

The 13oz denim used for the M11026 is the same whiteline denim used for the M41030 (37 repro)

The M41001 uses 14oz pinkline for their later 47 repro

[chicote]

Thanks to both of you!! Looks like the m41328 are blue jeans under the black rayon coating? A little too weird to spring the cash for, but I’m glad to know about them.

And appreciate the info about the 13oz denim, I’ll do some reading about the m41030 then and update if I come up w anything new. Thanks!

Edited February 27, 2023 by chicote

[Maynard Friedman]

Question for Neal:

It seems that many of the M series models have button backs with a code of 98. Does that indicate they were in production during or at least from 1998?

As my M41326 posted a few pages back have a button back code of 00, do you think that would indicate they were produced during or from 2000?

[Double 0 Soul]

Yup.. the old MP- button backs (pre-91) were stamped with an S .. or at least the ones I’ve seen were.. MP-597, MP-603 ect.. the S button back carried on after the end of MP production into production of the 91-97 M-series of denim.. M41001, M41030 ect .. when the 1998 series started the 1st still had the S button backs, SC obviously still had stock so you often see the earliest versions of the 1st with an ‘S’ then the rest as far as I knew had 98 until your M41326 turned up..

I think it’s a reasonable assumption.. although I’ve never seen a 99 and I’d assume we would see more 00 if production of the 98 series continued for a few more years after the millennium until they were discontinued in favour of the SC47s.. 66s ect..

Edited March 2, 2023 by Double 0 Soul

[julian-wolf]

I’ve seen 98 and 00, but never 99, 01, 02, 03

[chicote]

My m41101s have “S” buttons, and if I remember right, my old slack denim 40601s had 00 buttons, though I know those were from many years past 2000… is that possible? I’ll try and find some pictures to make sure.

[Maynard Friedman]

I just checked my pair of slack denim (SC40601) and they have plain button backs.

[chicote]

M11026 came in. I love it!

One broken box stitch… I think I might break em all!

absolutely beautiful donut buttons

… with “S” backs…

and this cool cloth patch.

I really like the denim, I feel like “nep” is one of the last things I look for in a fabric, but this has quite a lot of it:

some details of the cinch:

 

and a quick fit pic. Sleeves are on the slightly shorter side but I don’t mind, this is going to be a spring/summer jacket anyway.

thanks for looking!

[AlientoyWorkmachine]

@chicote that is a great find and you'll wear it well 

[MJF9]

@chicote cool jacket and fit... a great find indeed... keep us posted on developments pls

Edited March 11, 2023 by MJF9

[Double 0 Soul]

How much did you pay for it @chicote ?

I've been a bit out of touch with the prices recently.. there was a time, maybe 5 or 6yrs ago when you could still get a nos m-series jacket for ¥12k or there abouts.. such a lot of jacket for that money.. alas most of them were size 38.. i always fancied the blouse. still do!

[Maynard Friedman]

Unfortunately Neal, your threads on here and Denimbro have created a renewed demand for M-series products and driven the prices up. You’re a victim of your own success! 

[Double 0 Soul]

14 hours ago, chicote said:

absolutely beautiful donut buttons

If you ever need replacement hardware.. give me a holler 

ive got plenty of spare m-series donut buttons

Nice tarnishing on the back

Bit of oxidation on this one

Brass.. tarnished and plated all on the same fly

I’ve got a spare cinch too

[MJF9]

Nice hardware haul there OO

[chicote]

@Double 0 Soul I paid $200 incl shipping from malaysia, which looking around seems about average for m series jackets in this condition. it certainly smells like it’s been in storage in a tropical country for 20+ years lol!

[diggers]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Double 0 Soul]

3 hours ago, diggers said:

 

 

 

Well done @diggers!

 

[Maynard Friedman]

On 3/2/2023 at 4:03 PM, Double 0 Soul said:

I think it’s a reasonable assumption.. although I’ve never seen a 99 and I’d assume we would see more 00 if production of the 98 series continued for a few more years after the millennium until they were discontinued in favour of the SC47s.. 66s ect..

Great pair from @diggers and with a 99 button back too! They’re the same as my M41326 just with a different button code so that could possibly mark the production year.

Oops, I think Neal spotted it first!

Edited March 13, 2023 by Maynard Friedman

[julian-wolf]

M41300 mentioned on the last page (98 button code)

Still haven't found the "4th" in my size, but those are now the only of the main '98 series that I'm still missing…

Not sure yet whether I'll start wearing these now or add them to the stack—the silhouette fits pretty well with what I've been enjoying recently, and I really, really like the constructional stitching on the back pockets

 

[Maynard Friedman]

Great looking pair @julian-wolf, glad they arrived safely. What do you mean by the “4th”? What pair are they?

EDIT: just read page 1 and know what the 4ths are now!

Edited March 14, 2023 by Maynard Friedman

[Double 0 Soul]

9 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

EDIT: just read page 1 and know what the 4ths are now!

Someone should write a guide

[chicote]

Somewhere around 8-9 months wear on these, mostly kinda sedentary wear as I’m doing a lot of painting projects for work nowadays and would rather wear my coveralls. I like how they’re coming along though!
 

[MJF9]

@chicote love them - they look great... mine are new blue but that vertical character is there albeit subtly  

[chicote]

These have had two more washes and a few weeks of consistently hard wear since my last update a month ago; they really broke in after this last wash I think. Before and after:

 

 

[MJF9]

@chicote BOOM!

[Graytrain]

There are so many oddities in the early Sugar Cane pieces. I have several I have to give updates on but I spotted this one in particular that caught my attention an M43030 tag that looks like an M41030. And I cannot find anything on these