Pure Blue Japan

[PandaDenim]

Well I mean I knew it was going to stretch, just not that much.

Because when I got them they were really tight so I was hoping that they would stretch to just right, but they stretched way more than I was hoping.

What size did you get midnight?

[midnight]

I got a 29 in 005's and 007's and both are at 31 at least. I think the 005's are at about 31.5

[.max]

What's your true waist?

[midnight]

Around the belly button? About 28 inches. I size all of my jeans so that post soak they will have a 29 inch waist. I also always stick to medium/low rise stuff. At first i generally have to wear all my jeans a bit higher on my body but then as they stretch they sit on my hips where I like em.

[grouse_allergy]

I think the humidity really helps the fades because I'm starting to see some whiskers already.

I've heard other people say the opposite, that humidity is bad for fading since the indigo doesn't come off as easily when they're damp. I guess I could see either theory being true. Do you have any ideas as to why the humidity would help?

[midnight]

I always assumed that you sweating a little bit = jeans sticking to you more = more friction created due to contact = better fading especially around knees and combs.

my logic may be flawed, however.

[.max]

I think dryness has been fading better for me. Ever since summer started, the fading exellerated. Or maybe I'm just doing more things.

[grouse_allergy]

midnight... yeah, I see how that'd work... and now that I think about it, that does seem to help with fading above the knees. I don't know about the honeycombs, though. But, then again, I've never had any luck with those anyway.

While we're on the subject of honeycombs, do you think they are better achieved with a tight fit around the knees? The creases there on my pair are very tightly bunched together, but they don't seem to receive any friction that would help with fading.

[PandaDenim]

I think humidity helps with fading because of the water. I mean it's basically the same thing as why you tell people to wear their jeans when damp, because it creates creases faster and harder, which likewise creating creases is making fades.

As for my PBJs[xx-005 one-wash] I got them size 31 and they fit perfect, but now they are about 1-2 inches too big on the waste so I use a belt.

And the honeycombs. I think that having them tight around the knees wouldn't really help honeycombs, I think what helps is doing something that makes them crease or rub, I.E. take the stairs or bike.

As pathetic as it sounds since I'm here in Japan I take the opportunity to do both, lol. +You do a lot of walking here and I figured biking would be better for fades.

[midnight]

midnight... yeah, I see how that'd work... and now that I think about it, that does seem to help with fading above the knees. I don't know about the honeycombs, though. But, then again, I've never had any luck with those anyway.

While we're on the subject of honeycombs, do you think they are better achieved with a tight fit around the knees? The creases there on my pair are very tightly bunched together, but they don't seem to receive any friction that would help with fading.

I think that with a tighter fit, they're more likely to fade just because they bunch up closer together when you bend your knees. When they bunch up closer they rub against eachother? I'm not sure actually. I've seen some really nice combs on some baggier jeans, and some really nice combs on some skinny jeans, so its hard to tell.

[PandaDenim]

I think it depends on if you do things like squatting or riding a bike alot, things that rub the combs a lot.

[chantheman]

Conifurious' pics made me want to try on my pbjs that im trying to sell.

here are some fit pics. suggestions? size 30 true waist 30

[grouse_allergy]

They look a bit tight at the fly, but maybe that's just in the picture. Over all they're an awesome fit, I think. Why'd you want to sell em?

[gatsby]

cant really tell .. but compared to how mine fit, yours seem a bit baggy in the area below the knees.

still a good fit though, but all comes down to personal preference

[grouse_allergy]

mine are also a bit loose below the knee.

[chantheman]

kinda feels like they are bootcut yet they are straight when measured

[midnight]

I like them. How long have you been wearing them? They'll stretch a couple inches if they're new. And I don't personally think they look bootcut on you, just not very slim. Overall i think its a good fit, though.

[chantheman]

thanks i just picked these up from another member not too long ago for a decent price, but i dont know if i like the fit and was considering some 21cd diors like i asked you in the small question thread. just wasnt sure how those would look in comparison at the time.

[Florian.FloC]

Just got my 005s from BiG, having them tapered from about the knee down...not wild about the way the leg just drops down straight, but the denim itself is fantastic

[corbu]

My PBJ 003 cross-posted from the evo thread.

6 months and 3 washes or so. Lots of soaks as well.

[Florian.FloC]

When I had my 005's chain stitched at BiG, I kept the excess and had my tailor do the following for me today:

Blue selvage:

[liewbaysea]

did u line the inside of the wallet? if not, everything is gonna get dye-strained. coool idea though

[Florian.FloC]

No lining aside from a softer denim in the middle for a coin pocket, figure I like the staining on my bread haha

[Florian.FloC]

Fit pics of the 005 after a taper from the knee down (no soak, not soaking until they stretch our more):

**Edit: Yes, they're still raw...

[lestat]

^ they still raw?

[midnight]

Those are gonna be pretty tight after a soak. You may wanna just do a cold one for 30 minutes or so.

[Florian.FloC]

I wasn't planning on soaking until several months wear, wanted to wear 'em raw and see where I am in four or five months

[kidkorea]

You should really soak before wear.......

[braid]

I wasn't planning on soaking until several months wear, wanted to wear 'em raw and see where I am in four or five months

ummm, you're going to be sorry.

[Florian.FloC]

cold soak later today then...