WAYWT shit talking thread

[mrip]

when did this turn into the talking thread, not the waywt shit talking thread

i didnt read anything from the past 5 pages

[M4TM]

i liked denise richard's tits - circa wild things.

[jcotteri]

stop posting! You look like shit! Therefore in the appropriate thread!

[GiZMO]

i liked denise richard's tits - circa wild things.

The person that took me to school had hbo and I saw parts of this movie right before I went. Very sexy.

Gay stuff fucking rules.

[ProfMonnitoff]

can you fags either post tits or fits please?

[lucky_cloud]

[jpgm]

shoulda sized down.

[Halifamous]

Oh god. I think I'm gay after seeing that.

[fade to black2]

Oh god. I think I'm gay after seeing that.

you know who to call....

[Fuuma]

Fuuma, you've made the mistake of putting words into my mouth and thinking that I was blaming the immigrants themselves for the problem. Nothing I said alluded to that.

This rebuttal (1) is based on a statement that I did not make. Nowhere in my statement did I refer to a religious weapon of division (not like the one being implemented in the UK and Sweden by the Muslim Lobbies themselves). The Muslim Question, as an issue, is obviously an issue trying to claw its way out of your head (no offense) as soon as the topic of French social instability was addressed in the way that a closet homosexual might react to the topic of homosexuality with instant fervent denial of its validity.

Also, I certainly hope you weren't assuming that I'm an American Conservative. Not that it's a necessarily bad thing, depending on what you want to conserve. The only aspect of this country that I want to conserve is my Xbox Live account.

But because you're on this topic ---> ethnic and socioeconomic lines have everything to do with my statement. Many of these immigrants, whether or not they were imported as a workforce, refugees, or simply "plain old immigrants" were consciously placed into an economic system that could not support them or give them work after the re-manning of france's workforce after ww2. This fact might not have been intentional at the time, and the imported workforce was obviously an act of desperation. Though, that doesn't mean that the issue of mass immigration into france wasn't wildly exploited. Immigration is always exploited in many ways politically. Those who suffer are the natives and the immigrants. Those who prosper are the elites. Most of the immigrant labor have retired and since then, there's no work for the following generations and no work for the generations that followed them into france. This was to work to the advantage of a certain political faction of which is omnipresent among the elites of every western "progressive" nation. In Sweden, this mess is the fault of the social democrats. In the united states we have the democrats. In France, it's the fault of Fuuma. There is an element to the democrats, composed of elites (still old money, some new money) who create poverty through a welfare state. The more poverty, the more there is a need for subsidies. The more subsidies are needed, the more the democrats are wanted and the more power that group of elites has. The social construct is then deemed old fashioned and "backwards, ethnocentric, fundimentally racist" by nature. The populations are divided and thus their power as a whole is divided. Divide and conquer. The truth is, immigration on the level that Europe sees can not possibly allow upward mobility of social minorities in that situation. Those responsible for widening the flood gates knew this would happen. This has backfired though, because now both the right and left are pushing strong anti-immigration reform. You have to ask yourself, Puuma, who sat back for so long and watched as immigration policies that were far too lax created such a huge mess in the first place? Policies that called for such drastic reform? It wasn't the moral conscience of French politicians, motivated by the will of the people they claim to represent.

Not all elites work for the same faction(s). They all do however, strive for the same goals.

In the US we call that Political Science.

Look its fine to admit you don’t know much about a topic, please don’t try to hide your ignorance behind a deluge of half-truths and out and out lies. Oh and please stop insulting me you little twit or I’ll hold you down while Hali fucks you up.

1) Your ideas are heavily influenced by American conservative’s misconceptions that run rampant in a publication like the National review. That you consciously acknowledge it or not is irrelevant. Your deluded notions of a “democrat†conspiracy to fuck things up is a fine example of paranoia AND lack of knowledge of the European environment (you could have been born in Brussels for all I care, doesn’t change that). You seek to classify positions on immigration and governmental planning along the grid of analysis of a bipolar American system and this simply doesn’t apply here. Oh and aside from your brothers in arm on the extreme right, even someone like Sarkozy isn’t pushing for such strong immigration changes inasmuch as he is exploiting vague notions of fear of the other to present his own persona as the panacea to deliver the panicked population from its partly imaginary problem. The socialist aren’t that heavy either when you carefully look at it, although they did exploit the same fears to a lesser degree and with even vaguer affirmations. These policies are, contrary to what you would believe, low on entitlements and various “democrat†actions and high on hot air. Oh and Sarko is the child of immigrants, same as a lot of those banlieues people. He has the advantage to be white though.

2) Post WW2 France knew a great rise in prosperity for a good 30 yrs (les trente glorieuses) following WW2, with unemployment average under 2% and constantly rising GDP. Your quote “Many of these immigrants, whether or not they were imported as a workforce, refugees, or simply "plain old immigrants" were consciously placed into an economic system that could not support them or give them work after the re-manning of france's workforce after ww2. This fact might not have been intentional at the time, and the imported workforce was obviously an act of desperation.†Is simply total bullshit, these immigrants were a welcome addition to a constantly rising economy and the system did indeed support them without any major problem for at least three decades. Even now, with the slowed down but still functional economy, there are many fields where there is a shortage of workers, the problem being about the lack of formal training and possibilities afforded to the people of the banlieues. This may ties in with what is happening to African-Americans but has nothing to do with an influx of immigrants. So let’s supposed there is a job problem in the US, would you say African-americans are a problem because they’re mmigrants? WTF

3) The citizens of the banlieues aren’t, for the most part, immigrants anyway but French citizens born and bred on French soil. To keep things in perspective France isn’t crashing under the weight of its immigrants, as they compose between 5.5% and 8% of its population, with +-35% of them being from neighbouring European countries (whiteys). Once again, think LA riots, would you say the African-American population in the USA is mainly made of immigrants? What do they have to do to be considered Americans?

4) You wouldn’t know political science if it bit you on the ass! Your feeble analysis of a leftist elite conspiracy aimed at creating poverty to create programs professing to be fighting that very poverty and generate some power for themselves out of this vicious circle simply doesn’t stand to reality. Governments have alternated in France after WW2 and the socialist had no way to pursue a unified policy over such a long period. They’ve been in constant redefinition with the fall of modernist certainties and thus altered their programs accordingly with very few constants. You’re falling in the comforting populist trap of wanting to blame complex social problems on a shadowy, power grabbing elite that leaves the poor, defenceless and naïve population in the cold. However standards of living have been constantly rising in France after WW2, many have shared in the wealth and the fragmented nature of the representative system coupled with the divide of authority between the prime minister and president have, overall, allowed many ideas to be discussed in the open and various approaches and point of view to be heard and implemented, often with great support from the population.

5) The rise in overall wealth has thus created an environment where there is the possibility of economic integration and, coupled with low birth rates, a need for it. Your whole quote about the level of immigration making it impossible to economically and culturally integrate the immigrants is thus untrue because:

A) There’s more dough and more people share in it than before WW2.

Its been said about previous immigration waves (the Italians are this, the Polish are this) and after a few generations there’s no specific and insurmountable problem.

C) Not all political elites strive for the same goals, although they may share some goals related to the attainment of a perennial continuation of their political legacy.

D) A large % of French immigrants are from former colonies anyway and came (and were welcomed) there out of cultural affinity, post-colonial history has its logical consequences that are hard to ignore.

6) I don’t need to put words in your mouth, I know where the ideas you profess have originated even though you are yourself unaware of it. In this case the observer knows more about the subject than the subject itself. At least you understood the sheer idiocy of associating multiculturalism with France and stayed silent on what was the main point of the post I was commenting on and that I entirely debunked.

PS: see I can integrate persona attacks into my text too, fun innit?

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Europe is being torn apart as a result of the massive influx of immigrants from muslim countries. It's happening in all over the map; England, France, Germany, Sweden and even here in Finland. and is resulting in some unpleasant things like the far right gaining popularity in all these countries. It's starting to seem as if we just weren't meant to get along

[DJ2xTech]

damn if only I could write as much for my polsc papers

[lawlercopterz]

the human mind is so complex and everyone is unique and our genetic makeup (personality, sexuality, morality, etc) is pre-determined before we are even born. circumstances and experiences through life help to mold us into who we will ultimately be but some things remain constant despite that.

i lol'd.

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[sycamore no more]

SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE IT STOP, PAYPAL READY.

[DaBestSpoona]

someone had a little too much bull shark testosterone

[dunkin deeznuts]

Brucie is that you?

[fadingblue]

l LOVE YOU KUNK, YOU ARE GENETICALLY DIFFERENT!

[constant struggle]

• SO cAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THESE LAST 5 PAGES

1. JAYROCK IS GAY?
   I HAD NO IDEA (INSERT NUMBER HERE)

[evisu 2000]

• SO cAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THESE LAST 5 PAGES

you're wack, and should be banned.

[conan.]

sparksnotes version of last 5 pages:

constant struggle is a joke!

[Guest jmatsu]

when the fuck is this gimp gonna quit posting like every other day? fuckin hunchback no-neck. cutoffs look stupid, as do those socks (for the ensemble). oh and i am sick of those german trainers.

man....KILL THE POOR (already).

[fndmybetterhalf]

baffles me as to why he posts literally everyday in waywt..

someone must be +repping him for his fits. someone snitch

[beberthur]

a boring life like mine right now is a good reason to do this.

but I won't snitch.

[cheep]

why a cardi and shorts? cant decide if youre cold or hot?

[beberthur]

it's a cotton cardi so it's not really warm, and given the odd weather in Paris these days that can make sense.

[geekbonchic]

when the fuck is this gimp gonna quit posting like every other day? fuckin hunchback no-neck. cutoffs look stupid, as do those socks (for the ensemble). oh and i am sick of those german trainers.

man....KILL THE POOR (already).

Poverty is necessary to make wealth look good.

Also, stop justifying yourself when you get posted here. That's the first step on the slippery slope towards Disillusion(ed)ment.

[Guest]

a boring life like mine right now is a good reason to do this.

but I won't snitch.

Boring life is no reason to be boring, shit nigga you live in Paris.

[dunkin deeznuts]

baffles me as to why he posts literally everyday in waywt..

someone must be +repping him for his fits. someone snitch

self snitchin'

i plus repped him for one of his pics with the eiffel tower in the background and i cant stand the frogs!

[fndmybetterhalf]

actually, now to think back, i mightve +repped him for one of his posts but not his waywt...

[dunkin deeznuts]

1. i hate when people tak their pics in a public bathroom....no better place to take a pic? and he's no even using the mirror........just setting up your camera and using the bathroom..wtf?

2. he's dressed like a Polish college physics TA...no likey