Baseball Talk

[jake431]

Game today is at 1:05.

-Jake

Make that 4:09. Thank you rain delay.

-Jake

[sircheesecake]

Kuroda has a 0.54 ERA against the cubs and Lowe has a 1.93 ERA against them. ALL of them games have been within two runs. I wouldnt count us out if our bullpen can hold it together and the youngins can get on base.

May 26: Cubs 3, Dodgers 1

May 27: Cubs 3, Dodgers 1

May 28: Cubs 2, Dodgers 1

June 5: Cubs 5, Dodgers 4

June 6: Dodgers 3, Cubs 0

June 7: Dodgers 7, Cubs 3

June 8: Cubs 3, Dodgers 1

[dunkin deeznuts]

WS odds

Chisox 20 to 1

Twins 14 to 1

Brewers 10 to 1

Dodgers 9 to 1

Phils 8 to 1

BoSox 3.5 to 1

Rays 3.5 to 1

Cubs 3 to 1

Angels 3 to 1

[jake431]

WS odds

Chisox - A HELL of a lot better than the TWINS.

Twins - Fuck yourself. Go home and cry.

Brewers 10 to 1

Dodgers 9 to 1

Phils 8 to 1

BoSox 3.5 to 1

Rays 3.5 to 1

Cubs 3 to 1

Angels 3 to 1

Edited for actuality.

YEAH! Sox! That was the best game they've played ALL year.

-Jake

[sircheesecake]

Cubs suck.

[kunk75]

^cubs always come up big. if i have to watch phillies v. dodgers i'm going to shoot myself.

[jake431]

The Cubs didn't come up big tonight, that's for sure. If you look at the Cubs Dodgers games this season, you see a familiar scene - all the games the Cubs won were close; all the games the Dodgers won were not. Tonight fit that pattern.

-Jake

[kunk75]

i'm fearing dodgers up and yankees down will validate torre.

[jake431]

The man has 4 WS rings. He's validated.

[sircheesecake]

I found it interesting that before tonight, in the 2024 games the dodgers and cubs had played each other, the record was 1012 to 1012. Im curious how Zambrano will do tomorrow as his last two starts sucked and Billingsley would have had alot more wins this year if his team had offense.

[WayneGibbous]

world series: Dodgers vs. Red Sox

discuss

[dunkin deeznuts]

if Furcal is relatively healthy, he makes the Dodgers lineup alot better!

[benz5521]

Any Phillies fans? Hoping Sabathia has problems like last year in the post season and the Phils can get some hits. Myers hopefully will do good against the young Brewers.

[eastcoastrider27]

discuss

If it's not the Cubs, then I'd love to see the Red Sox play the Dodgers.

Would be great to boo Manny out of Fenway Park.

[kunk75]

in a team sport doesn't mean much but he sure does a good job balancing personalities.

i'll give him that.

The man has 4 WS rings. He's validated.

[kunk75]

would they? i dunno bout that.

If it's not the Cubs, then I'd love to see the Red Sox play the Dodgers.

Would be great to boo Manny out of Fenway Park.

[jake431]

in a team sport doesn't mean much but he sure does a good job balancing personalities.

i'll give him that.

I'm of the opinion that is what a manager is supposed to do. That and make intelligent decisions about game play. From that perspective, I'd say the 4 rings does mean something.

[dunkin deeznuts]

2008 AL and NL MVPs?

It hard for me to vote for someone whos team did not make the playoffs, so as much as I think Delgado carried the Mets in the second half, they would still be out of the playoffs without Delgado. Manny? He certainly helped turn the Dodgers around but can you pick someone who spent 2 months on the team? I think you can, thats why I'm picking CC Sabathia who totally helped the Brewers make the playoffs.

AL - I had Carlos Quentin for alot of the year and still think he's a good pick although the white sox did barely made the playoffs without him. I think Dustin Pedroia would be my pick...everytime I saw the Red Sox play, Pedroia seemed to make them tick.

2008 CY Youngs are a bit easier...my votes are for Cliff Lee in the AL and Webb with Lincecum a close second (18 wins on the SF Giants? WOW!!) I've heard people say Brad Lidge which is an interesting pick.

[jake431]

2008 AL and NL MVPs?

It hard for me to vote for someone whos team did not make the playoffs, so as much as I think Delgado carried the Mets in the second half, they would still be out of the playoffs without Delgado. Manny? He certainly helped turn the Dodgers around but can you pick someone who spent 2 months on the team? I think you can, thats why I'm picking CC Sabathia who totally helped the Brewers make the playoffs.

AL - I had Carlos Quentin for alot of the year and still think he's a good pick although the white sox did barely made the playoffs without him. I think Dustin Pedroia would be my pick...everytime I saw the Red Sox play, Pedroia seemed to make them tick.

2008 CY Youngs are a bit easier...my votes are for Cliff Lee in the AL and Webb with Lincecum a close second (18 wins on the SF Giants? WOW!!) I've heard people say Brad Lidge which is an interesting pick.

You can make a good case for Roy Halladay too - 20 wins on the offense-less Blue Jays. Though yeah, I think Cliff Lee is the obvious choice.

[dunkin deeznuts]

I'm of the opinion that is what a manager is supposed to do. That and make intelligent decisions about game play. From that perspective, I'd say the 4 rings does mean something.

i agree

as many times as I have said i could have managed the Yankees, a manager now adays is basically a babysitter for millionaire babies....Joe Torre has that lovable uncle/grandpa thing going for him and seems most of players respect him and thats half the battle.....how many other professions does your manager make less than the workers......

I liked Joe Torre until he became a yankee...but he was a pretty mediocre manager up until that point....but he has found his niche....not so much managing but babysitting good players.......though it does seem likes he's had to manage a bit more on the Dodgers with all the young players and NL style baseball.......

[kunk75]

my mvps:

AL MVP

1. quentin (carried them pretty much)

2. pedroia (split with #3)

3. youklis (split with #2)

NL MVP

1. Howard

2. pujols

3. santana

AL Cy Young

1. Roy Halladay (tougher division)

2. Cliff Lee

3. Dice K/Lester

NL CY Young

1. lincecum

2. santana

3. webb

[dunkin deeznuts]

damn Longoria is a monster!

[mackelface]

damn Longoria is a monster!

sox are going to dominate the rays, this should be a quick series. i'm dying to see the sox and the cubs in the world series, as much as I hate cubs fans (I live on the north side) I'd love to see them get to the WS and then royally blow it

[shoreman1782]

Any Phillies fans? Hoping Sabathia has problems like last year in the post season and the Phils can get some hits. Myers hopefully will do good against the young Brewers.

If the Phils can get a couple of lucky breaks off Sabathia (like they did yesterday, with errors/Cameron's flub) and Myers pitches more like he did last time against the brewers (CG) rather than his last few starts (disastrous), the Phils will win. I don't see them solving Sabathia -- I just hope they don't end up burning their entire bullpen b/c of a Myers meltdown when beating Sabathia is long odds anyway. Despite all that, looking forward to watching it!

I've heard people say Brad Lidge which is an interesting pick.

I watched a good number of Phils games this year and Lidge has been great, but I think he already won the award he deserved with comeback player of the year. People say you can't argue with a perfect season of saves, but after the AS break he was rarely dominant the way a Cy Young winner should be--like Lincecum has been and Sabathia and Santana were most nights. The Phils would never have made the postseason with Tom Gordon or Brett Myers closing games, but that doesn't make Lidge Cy Young material. I may be a little biased by Lidge's last few appearances, which have been Mitch Williams-like

[james nicolas]

NL CY Young

1. lincecum

agree x854390578034583

shouldn't even be close

[stayhandsome]

i used to enjoy baseball until i moved to chicago.

cubs and sox fans alike are both annoying.

peace tiger stadium!

[avatar]

sox are going to dominate the rays, this should be a quick series. i'm dying to see the sox and the cubs in the world series, as much as I hate cubs fans (I live on the north side) I'd love to see them get to the WS and then royally blow it

you really think so?

big sox fan here and tampa scares the fuck out of me

[benz5521]

Sabathia is getting rocked right now. Victorino just hit his first career grand slam and its 5-1. It's still to early to get excited though.

[sircheesecake]

Zambrano got rocked in the 2nd. Hopefully our bullpen will hold the lead.

I dont think the red sox have enough juice to make it to the WS. Im thinking if Vlad and co on the angels dont freak out, they will be playing whoever wins the NLCS (looking like dodgers vs. phillies)

[eastcoastrider27]

2008 AL and NL MVPs?

AL - I think Dustin Pedroia will win the MVP over Quentin for a few reasons.

He stepped up when the team needed him (batted cleanup for 4 games and absolutely killed it), led the league in hits, finished 2nd in batting, led the league in runs, played phenomenal defense, and played all but 5 games. Another big factor is that he plays in a huge media market. Hurting his case is that Youkilis had a monster year as well, so they will likely steal votes from each other.

Quentin has a legitimate chance to win, but he only played 130 games and while he led the league in HRs, he only had 36. Not exactly a monster power performance. He also only had 100 RBI, which is good, but not MVP good.

You could also make an argument for Morneau, but not making the playoffs hurts his chances.

NL - It's gotta be Pujols.

i agree

as many times as I have said i could have managed the Yankees, a manager now adays is basically a babysitter for millionaire babies....Joe Torre has that lovable uncle/grandpa thing going for him and seems most of players respect him and thats half the battle.....how many other professions does your manager make less than the workers......

I liked Joe Torre until he became a yankee...but he was a pretty mediocre manager up until that point....but he has found his niche....not so much managing but babysitting good players.......though it does seem likes he's had to manage a bit more on the Dodgers with all the young players and NL style baseball.......

Eh, it's hard for me to give Torre that much credit, because even though he made the playoffs, the Dodgers finished only 6 games above .500. In the NL West it's hard not to make the playoffs. Plus he was literally handed a first ballot Hall of Famer in Manny Ramirez.