Dressing like a skinhead?

[calmrvlt 43]

oh my those skin girls with chelseas..

[Icarus 262,223]

I'm going to have to say the skins of the late 60s that originated out of the Jamaican migration had it down. Spirit of '69. I've always loved the look and when its done right, it looks good.

Oh wow, I really got the date wrong. Of course Spirit of '69, I really enjoyed that book, I wish I got the whole thing photocopied.. Thanks for the correction.

[Yakboy Equals Nurturer 1,324]

Random observation on racism...whenever you have a person saying Black Power...hey its ok. White Power? Nah its super racist.

Random observation on statements like this: They will often be interpreted as an indication that the person making them is either ignorant or being disingenuously racist.

'Black Power' is about empowering a historically disenfranchised part of society. 'White Power' is about subjugating other races. The terms have those meanings because of the context in which they are used and the people who use them.

Next class: Why the fact that the Nazi's called themselves 'national socialists' does not in fact mean that they were a socialist political movement.

Oh, and in response to original question: of course there's nothing wrong with dressing like a skinhead. Educate yourself about the history of skinhead culture so that if someone assumes you are a racist because you look like a skinhead you can set them straight.

[Icarus 262,223]

I found Chapter 1 of Spirit of '69 and the A-Z Skinwear guide. Would you guys like me to scan the guide for superfashiom?

[polishmike 223,163]

Most of the neo-nazis in eastern Europe also wear MA-1 jackets. In the 90s I remember football stadiums filled with black MA-1s. They used to turn them to the orange side during fights. I used to have a green one, which was harder to get but considered "weaker" among skins. I would still wear one here but not in some unfriendly cities in Europe.

The are still many racists skins in Poland and I still see some insane fights when I go back for football matches. I never considered these idiots real skinheads but they pretty much fucked up the opinion for everyone else.

I remember when I first came to US and saw many people with celtic cross tattoos I couldn't believe my eyes. In Europe most racist skinheads used the celtic cross as their symbol and whenever I saw one on a sleeve of an MA-1 I knew there will be trouble.

[mizanation 105,111]

Random observation on statements like this: They will often be interpreted as an indication that the person making them is either ignorant or being disingenuously racist.

'Black Power' is about empowering a historically disenfranchised part of society. 'White Power' is about subjugating other races. The terms have those meanings because of the context in which they are used and the people who use them.

Next class: Why the fact that the Nazi's called themselves 'national socialists' does not in fact mean that they were a socialist political movement.

Oh, and in response to original question: of course there's nothing wrong with dressing like a skinhead. Educate yourself about the history of skinhead culture so that if someone assumes you are a racist because you look like a skinhead you can set them straight.

great post.

btw, i think it sucks that neo-nazis ruined skinhead style for everyone. goddamn them!

[cheapmuthafukr 2,355,888]

yeah... i love the skin style, but not sure if i could do it. i like my hair too much, and it doesnt work with long hair.

[mizanation 105,111]

also, depends on where you live.

if you are in good shape and have a shaved head and have tattoos, i generally think that you are a mixed martial arts fighter, especially if you have fucked up ears.

i have a shaved head and people have guessed that i do mixed martial arts or bjj. of course it helps that i'm asian. there are very few asian neo-nazis.

in new york, people are cool enough to appreciate OG skinhead style, so you don't have too big of a problem here. places like oregon, though. you might get recruited.

[denimdestroyedmylife 1,666,991]

japanese skinheads article here

getsmart schooled me about japanese skinheads over at the steez

anyway, i borrow from skinhead style

ma-1 for starters

OI!

yeah, nazi punks ruined fugazi shows for me

they are just jocks with shaved heads, really

[n0torious 3,480]

"jocks with shaved heads" sums it up exactly. Regardless of the kit, if they're looking to pick a fight just to pick a fight, fuck 'em.

[mizanation 105,111]

thanks for the article, ddml.

this is a movie that came out a while ago about a japanese nationalistic gang. not a great movie but it has a japanese skinhead as the main character. also, genki sudo, pro mma fighter is in it.

http://www.sarudama.com/japanese_movies/kyoukinosakura.shtml

[kauflust 3,768]

don't forget about the korean skinheads!

Nazism is enjoyed solely on an ironic level, but certainly not universally. This issue is especially contenious with Samchung, one of the oldest, most intense, most bad-ass hardcore bands. They cover “Tomorrow Belongs to Me,” from Skrewdriver, which has ruffled some feathers and led to them calling themselves “Korea’s most hated punk band.” Named after a South Korean prison for suspected criminals, political dissidents, and misfits in the ’80s, they play with the intensity of a state execution.

[Guest StuckOnStupid]

Random observation on statements like this: They will often be interpreted as an indication that the person making them is either ignorant or being disingenuously racist. .

said with more tact than i would have used.

[englandmj7 98,059]

All this talk reminds me of two excellent films:

American History X & Romper Stomper...............

[nappyhead jenkins 22,703]

People steal/borrow fashion from subcultures all the time without taking on that cultures ideas or beliefs

[headtowall 33,937]

japanese skinheads article here

I was gonna post something about Japanese skinheads but you beat me to it.

Anyway.

[DJ2xTech 6,099]

Random observation on statements like this: They will often be interpreted as an indication that the person making them is either ignorant or being disingenuously racist.

'Black Power' is about empowering a historically disenfranchised part of society. 'White Power' is about subjugating other races. The terms have those meanings because of the context in which they are used and the people who use them.

Next class: Why the fact that the Nazi's called themselves 'national socialists' does not in fact mean that they were a socialist political movement.

Oh, and in response to original question: of course there's nothing wrong with dressing like a skinhead. Educate yourself about the history of skinhead culture so that if someone assumes you are a racist because you look like a skinhead you can set them straight.

I'm not even white or black.

maybe I should have put down sometime more like...if a white person celebrates his white heritage it would be seen as racist compared to black heritage, asian heritage, hispanic heritage, even if that person wasn't celebrating the and denounced the racist, ignorant parts of his heritage.

[wild style 447,972]

lol @ Harley Flanagan

[Yakboy Equals Nurturer 1,324]

I'm not even white or black.

maybe I should have put down sometime more like...if a white person celebrates his white heritage it would be seen as racist compared to black heritage, asian heritage, hispanic heritage, even if that person wasn't celebrating the and denounced the racist, ignorant parts of his heritage.

Sometimes, but that's because there are far too many instances where white people claiming to be celebrating some kind of homogenous 'white heritage' are in fact using it as a thinly disguised opportunity to shit on everyone else. If white Americans are celebrating a heritage specific to a particular country of origin (German, Irish, Polish, Italian) it's a less loaded scenario (not to say that you can't find bigots at a St. Patrick's Day parade as well).

[jasonm 60]

i love that photo, if i could get a blown up copy i'd put it in my house.

from a clothing/cultural standpoint trojan skin/and being a skin in the states are like apples and oranges.

[vincent 4,981]

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[mlproject 122,139]

the sentiment towards skins and the type of people who adopt the style definitely varies by geography. it's been around long enough in certain forms to ruin it in some areas.

nice link to the japanese skins article. LOTS of good japanese bands. most are slower with growlier vocals.

the french scene was probably my favorite regional sound out of anywhere. very melodic.

[whorishconsumer 1,195]

do you currently have an african american tied behind your pickup?

[cuddlysheep 4,863]

take the skinheads bowling!!

[mixedup 48]

ah! this is england! actually is a really good movie! definitely worth seeing.

[englandmj7 98,059]

ah! this is england! actually is a really good movie! definitely worth seeing.

Also the title of an awesome Clash song.

[Icarus 262,223]

Here's the Spirit OF Skinwear Bible for anyone interested.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=25161

[poly800rock 745,539]

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[HEWSINATOR 355]

There have been a few comments about the history of Skins, etc...and saying that for that reason it does not matter. However, the fact of the matter is there is a connotation associated with this look in many areas. If this does not concern you, continue, if it does, then maybe you want to give it more thought.

Can somebody fill me in on the naked dudes?

[Curious_George 31,907]

Here's the Spirit OF Skinwear Bible for anyone interested.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=25161

Interesting stuff. I wasn't sure if brogues had been part of that fashion or not, but ever since I saw a picture of this one Japanese dude wearing Trickers and high cuffed jeans I've loved the look of brogue boots with cuffed denim. I picked up a pair of Grenson Ilkley brogue boots soon after, and I've been mixing that look in my dress on occasion.