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yeah i live in east London - its pretty much an emerging dominant look, im not sure about it - its definitely got a certain cool, and dudes totally pull it off - but rubs me too much like Bernard Willhelm (but not as well designed) but also allot like Walter Van Beirendonck/W&LT's 1997-2000 kind of stuff... like when I was 17!

jeeez it really is been hyped musically here though!

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I just saw JME rocking this shit the other day and thought "what the fuck"...

Tuesday, September 26, 2006

JME Does Fashion Week

Yep Boy Better Know are moving... the T-shirt business is healthy. JME joined up with Carri 'Cassette Playa' Mundane who's a massive BBK fan and modelled some of her new collection.

Mundane has worked with M.I.A, the British female rapper nearly banned from America for thought crime and New Rave banner wavers the Klaxons. Both have been dressed by and had videos styled by Carri Mundane. She is also Contributing Fashion Editor of SuperSuper, i-D stylist / contributor and recently collaborated with Nicola Formichetti for Dazed & Confused. Our boy Reardon, the i-D don says "Cassette Playa is Nando's, it's grime, it's dang, it's nang, it's day realness, it's major brappage. Fo' sheezy, Cassette Playa delivers both mental and physical vitality while supporting the immune system. It just, you know, feels MODERN." That's so word.

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In a big way Man...Funny how as soon as vice/fader etc. move on to rick ross and hyphy every kid who was throwing up gun fingers at the Kano show 2 summers past just forgot about that shit. There's a couple DJ's around who still rep the sound, but it seems like it lost alot of speed both here and in London when cats realized they're not gettin signed and Dizze was a one-away.

Meanwhile, It's actually getting more interesting and exciting than ever before...Check for:

The movement (ghetto in particular)

Ruffsqwad

shizzle

Rolldeep (Trim and roachee)

The essentials

And a bunch more you may or may not know about.

I'm not much for online etiquitte (or spelling), but I think i'm "hijacking the thread" so I'll leave it here. It's one of the most exciting things I've heard in a while, and the people who do it well could spit circles around todays sad up and coming excuses for rappers.

So yeah..I like that shit.

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It's one of the most exciting things I've heard in a while, and the people who do it well could spit circles around todays sad up and coming excuses for rappers.

So yeah..I like that shit.

not a doubt in my mind that grime is some of the most vital black music being made today, wish it wasn't so difficult to get a decent stream of information on what's going on in the UK- RWD magazine's site is alright, but even they aren't keeping shit locked the way they should.

thanks for the heads up on some of those crews. do you know if Unorthodox crew ever got to put out anything besides a handful of singles and what they licensed to the Run the Road compilations? No Lay is a goddamn monster on the mic and I can't ever find any tracks by her or the rest of her group.

as for hijacking a thread, whatever, london fashion, london music, JME's down with Carri Mundane, we're not off topic.

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the new Kode9/Spaceape album is fantastic.

way better than grime's weak attempts at making slowed-down hardcore techno-rap. (although the recent Milanese album on Planet Mu fucking slays....)

i always forget minya is a music junkie...

the new K9/Spaceape is pretty good, and that's high praise from me because I'm not a fan of dubstep. The new Milanese is really, really good. Really good.

And, I have to disagree with you on grime. Yeah, there are a LOT of sub-par MCs and 'producers', but the stuff that shines really outshines the rest in my opinion.

Like, Ruff Sqwad's "Anna"- to turn something like that out on a laptop and have it sound as powerful and alive as it does is phenomenal. Check the video that Raised By Wolves posted.

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That's exactly what I what I was thinking!

Walter van Beirendonck and (to a lesser extent) Bas Kosters are the two names that come to mind.

W&LT - man, that takes me back. Back when they had a shop in Hype DF. They were the only label that did plastic ironic better than Diesel, back in the day.

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i always forget minya is a music junkie...

the new K9/Spaceape is pretty good, and that's high praise from me because I'm not a fan of dubstep. The new Milanese is really, really good. Really good.

And, I have to disagree with you on grime. Yeah, there are a LOT of sub-par MCs and 'producers', but the stuff that shines really outshines the rest in my opinion.

Like, Ruff Sqwad's "Anna"- to turn something like that out on a laptop and have it sound as powerful and alive as it does is phenomenal. Check the video that Raised By Wolves posted.

late bump!

I'm not a fan of dubstep either! a) fucking stupidest genre name ever B) that Burial album sucked a huge dick c) Basic Channel/Chain Reaction was doing the same shit in a more interesting way about 10 years ago. But yeah, that Kode9 album rules.

anyway, I'd like to hear some of your recommendations for good grime. Stylistically I really like it, but most of what I've heard is just really... poor.

btw: have you heard Speedy J's "A Shocking Hobby"? That album came out like 6 or 7 years ago and it fucking blew me away back then and has remained a favorite ever since. Curiously, listening to it now, it's basically a prototype of "grime" -- grungy, dirty, hard, industrial percussive electronic music with strong hip-hop influences. It's not as overtly hip-hoppy as a lot of grime, but if you want something grungy and noisy and extremely loud you should check it out. Even more interesting, nothing Speedy J has released before or after that album sounds even remotely like it.

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late bump!

I'm not a fan of dubstep either! a) fucking stupidest genre name ever B) that Burial album sucked a huge dick c)

Burial isn't really Dubstep - well at least you wouldn't hear it played out at DMZ or FWD or anywhere. Its a great album though I think but it doesn't really fit what dubtep is in my opinion. Dubstep isn't one of those genres that's gonna work across a one artist album like that anyway - your much better off, as with grime, by seeing it live, or grabbing a liveset or pirate radio show.

As for good Grime - the 2002-2004 stuff is clearly the best. Live sets or pirate radio are where the really good stuff comes from - all teh mixtapes and albums (apart from Dizzee's first album) are a pretty poor representation of the scene. Nasty Crew (pre Kano, Ghetto etc split) and Pay as You Go, and later, Roll Deep are the by far the best crews and any sets you can find of them would be a good start.

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if there is one genre that spawns sub genre's like rabbits it's anything techno/electronic related. there's a new genre out every week

i just came up with a new genre while reading this called "fuckstep". it is like dubstep, only you replace the dub influence with 70's porno soundtrack samples.

as for good grime, i'd only be echoing fat_cap, although i really think that Ruff Sqwad's "anna" which was linked to before is a godlike track. one of the real faults with the grime scene is how unfocused it is- these are artists who'd rather record a single and license that for some quick money than sit down and focus on putting together an album, so a lot of the energy is kind of wasted, which is why i feel a lot of grime is mediocre. but personally, when the stuff is on, i just can't think of any hip hop-culture influenced sound that has sounded as alive as early rap music did.

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got really excited when i read 'that burial album' then realised that it wasn't the rhythm & sound album with burial mixes, King in my empire has to be one of the best things Cornel Campbells ever done and i don't say that lightly.

There are a few tracks on early plus 8 12s by speedy J that are similar in idea to the the album you are talking about minya, can't remember the titles, too lazy to look and at that time i was frying my brain so can't remember either.

as for the neu rave, nathan barley

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