Samurai S5000 owners

[malsponge]

ordered my BKs from 2nd a week ago and the red tab and back stitching are all there

[alleyooptroop]

sorry to post on 2 threads but it looked like this one was more active. denom phenom replied to my question on the other samurai thread but i wanted to get other opinions as well. here's my original post:

sammy noob here. i'm expecting delivery of my first pair of S5000VX sammies that i bought from khalitire here on sf. they're tagged a 26 waist but he had stretched them out to a little over 28 which is my natural waist size. they've also already been soaked. my question is can i expect to get a little more stretching in the waist? i'd actually like to get maybe another inch. i know most denim stretches but that seems like quite a bit of stretching already. keeping my fingers crossed.

[deadpan]

sorry to post on 2 threads but it looked like this one was more active. denom phenom replied to my question on the other samurai thread but i wanted to get other opinions as well. here's my original post:

sammy noob here. i'm expecting delivery of my first pair of S5000VX sammies that i bought from khalitire here on sf. they're tagged a 26 waist but he had stretched them out to a little over 28 which is my natural waist size. they've also already been soaked. my question is can i expect to get a little more stretching in the waist? i'd actually like to get maybe another inch. i know most denim stretches but that seems like quite a bit of stretching already. keeping my fingers crossed.

I got (wrongly-they're too big) a Tag 33, and they currently measure about 36. They've been soaked a few times but they seem to stretch back out through sitting etc. So I reckon you should be fine.

[alleyooptroop]

wow. didn't realize you could get that much stretch. how tight were they at first?

[Denim Phenom]

How much did you size down on those? I'm considering a pair, and I would like a similar fit.

I got my true size. I sized down and they were too small pre-soak so I got my true size.

[deadpan]

wow. didn't realize you could get that much stretch. how tight were they at first?

Think if I remember right they were 35 raw. shrank to about 34 on first soak. Soaked hot and dried, and then soaked hot again without wearing to try to get them down to tag. Didn't really work but I think they shrink more if you wash them maybe. I'm def. no expert on these though.

[Denim Phenom]

I put my 5000s in a plastic tub with boiling hot water for 5 hours. I replaced the water about half way through to keep it hot.

Pre soak

waist 32.5in

inseam 38.5in

hem 8.75in

thigh 12in

knee 9.25in

Post soak

waist 31in

inseam 37.5in

hem 8.5in

thigh 11.75in

knee 9in

I was hoping they would shrink a lot more and i'm sure that after another really hot soak they inseam should shrink up. I'm going to do this before getting them hemmed.

Will post fit pics later.

[Dick Danger]

I always hot soak twice.

[abstract bM]

is this the 2nd website that everyone's getting theirs from?

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/sj-s5000vx

[Denim Phenom]

Sure is.

I'm thinking i'll have to hot soak mine again tonight.

I had them folded up last night when I soaked them. Is it better if I just lay them flat? I know that's a noob question.

[Dick Danger]

I've done both.

[Denim Phenom]

My tub doesn't like to keep the water in it so I need to get a stopper. I think another 5 hour boiling soak is in order.

[Guest jeffvyain]

just throw it in the washer dude

[abstract bM]

ok, i think i'm gonna bite and order a pair of the s5000vx.

from reading through the pages, i guess sizing one down is ideal.

here are my sizes in other jeans:

Levis 501, regular, preshrunk - 31

Sugarcane 1947 - 30

Regular Ralf - 29.

so what size should i get?

[Denim Phenom]

I just got done with another 5 hour boiling water soak and I don't think the inseam changed at all.

Also, I think I should have kept the 30s that I sold to a forum member earlier this week.

Abstract, if you fit all of those sizes i'd go with the 29. That way they will stretch out and be comfortable.

[deadpan]

I just got done with another 5 hour boiling water soak and I don't think the inseam changed at all.

Also, I think I should have kept the 30s that I sold to a forum member earlier this week.

Abstract, if you fit all of those sizes i'd go with the 29. That way they will stretch out and be comfortable.

I seriously feel for you on this one DP:(

[kert]

I just got done with another 5 hour boiling water soak and I don't think the inseam changed at all.

Also, I think I should have kept the 30s that I sold to a forum member earlier this week.

Abstract, if you fit all of those sizes i'd go with the 29. That way they will stretch out and be comfortable.

that's strange because my s5000bks shrunk 2.5 inches in the inseam and to tagged size about 2 inches in the waist. i did a 3 hour hot water soak. i added boiling water when i did mine.

[SoloC]

My tub doesn't like to keep the water in it so I need to get a stopper. I think another 5 hour boiling soak is in order.

Place a small towel flat on the drain hole and insert the plaste plg to the hole. I think that will solve your problem.

[erbs]

is this the 2nd website that everyone's getting theirs from?

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/2nd/sj-s5000vx

This should probably go in the "Options for Purchasing Japanese Denim" thread but I'm going to post it anyway. How did you go about ordering from the 2nd website? Did you just email them, or did you order using Google translator?

[Denim Phenom]

Erbs, I sent you a pm answering your question.

[zephyr11]

just wondering anyone has botht eh 5000vx n bk?

i would like to know if theres a diff in the sizing of these coz i got a pair of bks, n its a lil loose, n heard that the sizing of these are quite off even though its the same cut....

thanx...

[thatkidpercy]

Got my 5000bk's today! I ordered them direct from samurai-j.com, and everything is still intact (arcuate, tab) - i've never felt anything like them before, my only other pair of raw denim are 501xx 37's and they were nowhere near as stiff, these things feel like cardboard! They are drying now after their soak (3 hours).. they shrank quite a bit (2.5"), although only really in the leg as the waist is pretty much the same. Can't wait to start wearing them...

[horriblyjollyjinx]

you have to dry the S5000 HOT to shrink them down to marked size, or wash 5 times.

[poly800rock]

horrible showed my these pics someone posted on the samurai site

http://samurai-j.com/samurai/news/files/20070209184317.jpg

[esoteric]

I've been wearing my S5000s for about 40 days straight now, got some decent wear in them. I love the fit.

Took some pics today, but my computer is acting up, so I'll be resizing and posting up some pics sometime within' the week!

[zephyr11]

do the 5000bk stretch a lot during initial wear?

[poly800rock]

do the 5000bk stretch a lot during initial wear?

they've stretched out a lot actually, to the point where i wanna just soak the waistband cuz it's loosened out that much

[rainmaker]

Got my 5000bk's today! I ordered them direct from samurai-j.com, and everything is still intact (arcuate, tab) - i've never felt anything like them before, my only other pair of raw denim are 501xx 37's and they were nowhere near as stiff, these things feel like cardboard! They are drying now after their soak (3 hours).. they shrank quite a bit (2.5"), although only really in the leg as the waist is pretty much the same. Can't wait to start wearing them...

What size are you if you don't mind me asking?

[thatkidpercy]

What size are you if you don't mind me asking?

Not at all - I'm usually a size 34 (could wear 33 but prefer a looser fit), but these are a size 35. I thought that they would be a bit slimmer than they actually are, and now I've got them I think I probably should have just ordered a 34. I don't really mind though, because I'm still happy with how they fit and if they shrink more with subsequent washes I think they'll be fine. A few pics of the fit (excuse the mess, I live in a student house...):

[zephyr11]

they've stretched out a lot actually, to the point where i wanna just soak the waistband cuz it's loosened out that much

thanx, i just got some which aft soak n stuff fits exactly like what i want it to be....

its def gonna be a prob then...