Vintage Denim?

[ppsos]

Any marking on the back of the top fly button?

yes, there is no. 6

[aho]

^There's your proof....Very nice find! (ooops just looked again and could've seen the marking myself on the button, didn't realize you had a picture!)

[bluegoldblues]

Are they big E? I found a pair of 70's little e 501's the other day with 6 stamped on top button

believe they are known as "route 66's" in the trade!

here are mine... http://bluegoldblues.com/post/1669931818/1970s-route-66-selvage-levis-501s

[ppsos]

the tab is big E

I think you can tell the difference between 70s and 60s redlines by their fabrics. the small e's fabric are flatter.

[setterman]

Levi's from probably around 66's ? I got these from ebay couple moths ago.

color is very hard to capture.

Roping and train tracks on those jeans is flat out amazing! And I love the "I'm not afraid of the washing machine" fades. Lovely pair!

[bluegoldblues]

These predate this thread, so it's worth having them here I hope.

Similar shape, bet the waist band has stretched out on these.

Look how different the pocket shape is in the 60s - much less tapered, with more or less parallel stitching on the edges. These have very different bar tacks from the late rpair, too.

Thinking about bidding on these 502's on the bay which are exactly my size however there is something about them thats screaming fake! and the seller has a lot of repro stuff.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380304402394&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2523wt_1141

There are a few differences to paul's, patch is different (no made in usa), 502-0117 printing looks very modern, rear of top button isnt stamped, bartacks different...

Can someone please give a second opinion? If they are legit then all i can asume is that they are very early 70's?

[Paul T]

On balance they look likely to be legit to me - tho these were reproduced by Levi'\s Japan, so ideally you should ask for photos of the internal tags. I've not seen the Japanese ones in question so I can't recognise any potential warning signs, especially from those lousy photos. I'm slightly worried by the look of the denim, and the lack of wear on the red tag.

Extra shot of the internals of an original pair:

Of course the claim these might date to the late 40s is BS, the 502 was the new name for the 501Z, I would guess these are fairly late Big E, later than my old pair. The bar tacks on my pair are something of an aberration

[bluegoldblues]

Cheers paul, yeah they are some lousy pictures considering his thousand+ feedback score. hhm its a tough one now you have mentioned the fading..will see if it stays low may have a cheeky bid.

[bluegoldblues]

Great article from 1993 in The Independent Newspaper.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/style-denims-big-three-get-back-in-the-saddle-the-bestknown-jeans-producers-are-hitting-back-at-rivals-by-relaunching-some-early-styles-roger-tredre-reports-1488370.html

Documents the start and background of repro/reissue jeans, pre LVC of course.

Also posted on bluegoldblues.com

[matera]

thats interesting stuff, thanks blue

[bluegoldblues]

Of interest to some...

New Post on Head Light Jeans over at BlueGoldBlues.com

[Paul T]

They do look pretty like the 201 fabric, a bit more slubby than the contemporary 501. If they're dated like Levi's I'd guess they're late 20s, with those lovely flat rivets.

Interesting yoke construction, too, all over the place - look how assymetrical the top sections are, with that extreme 'stagger'. As were Levi's over 25-35, for some reason. I wonder if there was some hardware switchover during this period.

Sorry for overlap bluegoldblues, was getting around to posting these pics that I shot while lusting over G1 jackets yesterday...

For sale, from David at Ragtop Vintage

[bluegoldblues]

For those of you from the UK,

Was invited to Beyond Retro's HQ to check out their archive today.

More info over at BlueGoldBlues.com

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[entertainment!]

I just bought a Levi'[s type III jacket. I has a big E tab, but the buttons are marked 524 on the back. From what I have read, 501s that are big E shouldn't have 3 digit numbers on the back of the buttons. Is this true for jackets as well? I can post pictures if necessary. Luckily, I didn't pay much for the jacket and it is quite nice even if it is fake, but I am hoping it isn't.

[cheapmuthafukr]

my big e type III has the same thing... most likely an early 70s model.

[robbie]

I just bought a Levi'[s type III jacket. I has a big E tab, but the buttons are marked 524 on the back. From what I have read, 501s that are big E shouldn't have 3 digit numbers on the back of the buttons. Is this true for jackets as well? I can post pictures if necessary. Luckily, I didn't pay much for the jacket and it is quite nice even if it is fake, but I am hoping it isn't.

my big e type III has the same thing... most likely an early 70s model.

The one I've got has these same numbers also. It's early 70's, you can tell by the denim.

[bluegoldblues]

can confirm late 60's early 70's. will have black stitching under pocket flaps.

See here:

http://bluegoldblues.com/post/2782724791/1969-levis-70505-big-e-third-edition-jacket

http://bluegoldblues.com/post/1365434458/early-1970s-third-edition-big-e-levis-jacket

[entertainment!]

Thanks for all the helpful posts about the type III jacket.

Mine has orange bar tacks under the pocket flaps. It does have black around the button holes though. I will post some pictures in the next few days when I can shoot in natural light. Unfortunately, the tag is missing, but the size of the tag stitching corresponds to the late 60s, early 70s tags.

[entertainment!]

Some pictures of the jacket:

[bluegoldblues]

Quite interesting that the stitching is orange, this normally means early 60's- 557 with large patch and the buttons having a 'O' or 'D' stamped on the back.

Yours must be mid/late 60's with 3 digit stamp..great find the yellow stitching makes it worth much more than a bog standard big e jacket like my ones!

check this out

http://bluegoldblues.com/post/1374016103/1960s-blanket-lined-type-iii-559-xx-levis-jacket

[entertainment!]

Thanks bluegoldblues.

The jacket is also very short, only 21" from the collar seam to the bottom. I'm pretty tall, so it looks a little short. I definitely have to wear it with jeans that have a good back rise.

Too bad there is no label. That would probably make the dating a lot easier. The label shape is definitely the more rectangular one that most sources I have seen indicate was adopted in the late 60s.

[devilish]

This has nothing to do with any plot line in this thread recently but I'm watching 'The Misfits' right now and well, Marilyn sure fills out a pair of Levis' the way they should be. Hot damn!

Some nice Stormrider action goin' on too but nothing better than Miss Monroe in those blue jeans.

[Happy Hooligan]

^once you see that film, you'll always remember those levis... also check out River of No Return....

[bluegoldblues]

This has nothing to do with any plot line in this thread recently but I'm watching 'The Misfits' right now and well, Marilyn sure fills out a pair of Levis' the way they should be. Hot damn!

Some nice Stormrider action goin' on too but nothing better than Miss Monroe in those blue jeans.

Just did an article on vintage women's Levi's 701 check this out..

http://bluegoldblues.com/post/3090883663/a-look-at-levis-701-xx-womans-jeans

[Paul T]

try it like this...

Any more photos for us?

[Paul T]

WHen you put the cursor over a photo on photobucket, four little boxes come up. Copy and past the code from the 'IMG code' box.

I can see your code line has an extra bit in it.

It shoudl look like this

http://s1093.photobucket.com/albums/i423/cc-rider1/517/P2030025.jpg

...with the tags on either side.

[bluegoldblues]

Did anyone else see these cool original 30's Levi's at the Rose Bowl this past Sunday?

Long time since these were posted but..

Just noticed that these just sold on the bay for a cool $4,000

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280636449292&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

[bluegoldblues]

Latest purchase deadstock big e Levis!

Check out BlueGoldBlues.com for more details

[bluegoldblues]

Tell me about it!! those in a good waist size would cost $$$$

Nice story behind these.

[Happy Hooligan]

nice pick up. I'd rather be the guy who actually found these in the basement.... I wonder what other things he found down there...