Fake Jeans

[OBC]

Are there fake raw selvedge jeans? I just brought a pair of LVC xx501 online and was wondering if there was a way to tell its authenticity?

Thanks

OBC Cat

[rnrswitch]

There are fakes. Just look at the thread titled fake 1937 repros. How to tell authenticity depends on each style of levis, but some basic things to look for are on that 1937 thread. Are there any pictures of the jeans you bought online? If so post them on here and we could possible help you out. Do you know what type of lvc 501s they were? 1901,1947s, etc.

[OBC]

they would look stumpy cause they r a huge size (44')

thanks

OBC Cat

[nairb49]

post a pic of the selvage

didn't know they made a selvage jean without a leather patch

nairb49

[the black arm]

the patch placement looks peculiar

[generic_guy]

Quote:

the patch placement looks peculiar

--- Original message by the black arm on Jan 9, 2006 10:59 PM

That's just because they're a large size. The belt loops and patch are arranged differently for 38" (?) and above.

Edited by generic_guy on Jan 10, 2006 at 01:49 AM

[Guest The Diplomatic Aristocrat]

sorry but 44?

wow

I'm like the Afrocentric Asian, half-man, half-amazin'

[OBC]

sorry but Diplomatic Aristocrat eat a dick.

moving on, any ideas on their authenticity from those pics? im tryin 2 get a pic of the selvedge.

OBC Cat

[Paul T]

THey look legit to me. Not selvage jeans, though.

ANd sorry, yes I only just noticed you said they were LVC. I'm pretty certain they aren't, to my knowledge, LVC never produced this size, nor of this vintage. . AS the followingposter says, these look like conventional STF.

Edited by Paul T on Jan 10, 2006 at 09:33 AM

[TrappedInDC]

Those don't look like LVCs... they look like regular STF (Shrink to Fit) 501xx jeans. Isn't the patch on the LVCs completely different?

For Regular STF jeans... the going price is $30+ USD... so depending on what you paid for them, they could be as advertised... but not if they said LVC.

-Trapped

[obsessis]

my regular 50xx stf jeans look a little darker (could just be the pic) but the leather tag just says 501 not 501xx.

[damnIam]

Those definately are not LVC. The tag looks like they are STFs from the mid to late 1980s.

I am not keen on them, sorry.

[damnIam]

by the way...I share our sentiment toward the idiots comments on the waist size. Some of us ain't afraid of a damn SANDWICH.

[OBC]

ok cool, yeh i paid about 10 for the jeans and 20 to ship to australia which is good price. So they are normal shrink to fit, from before 1968 cause thats when the 501xx stopped. Would they be raw still? or selvedge?

can i get some LVC online, prob 1947 ones, in a 44 anywhere?!?! if so, post the url.

thanks guys!

OBC Cat

[nairb49]

they won't be selvage, unless they've made from early on which they don't look like they are.

if you take a picture of the outside seam, that'll show whether its selvage or not, but it doesen't seem like it.

I don't think the 1947 repros went up to 44 unfortunately, but you could try the 1955 repros, they generally have a looser cut and so may work out for you.

nairb49

[OBC]

Can yall post the best and trusted sites to buy jeans (raw selvedge preferably) from??

thanks again.

OBC Cat

[Paul T]

Search here for aeroclothing, I think they're called, they're good.

[OBC]

Whats the URL for aeroclothing. Can't seem to put my finger on it.

thanks

OBC Cat

[haptronic]

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com

[witts]

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/webapp/aeroleather/servlet/AeroViewPage?page=home

biggest they go upto is a W38 though

[OBC]

Heres what the selvedge looks like on these 501xx. what do u think? R they STF? LVC?

OBC Cat

[obsessis]

that isn't selvage. that is just the end of the roll of denim. it is possibly called chainstitching? i'm not sure but i know it isn't selvage. it isn't lvc and you can't tell if it is stf unless you see the tag or accompanying paperwork, but the denim looks like it is either normal denim or stf denim that has been washed.

[OBC]

Are they too light to be unwashed STF?

OBC Cat

[obsessis]

i don't know, another picture might help.

are they really hard? or do they fold easy? they should be really dark, shiny and really hard.

[OBC]

They are harder then worn jeans. Not so shiny but a little

OBC Cat

[obsessis]

you got me dude. if they are hard they could be 501xx or shrink to fit. i can't tell from the pic.

[jdavis]

Assuming STF, the different white serging on the outseam would put the jean somewhere in the mid to late eighties.

After the redline was abolished circa 83, the selvage was serged with the same gold thread to match the chainstitch. Around a year later the gold thread was replaced with white.

Most STF of this kind were produced 83-86.

A picture of the leather-like patch would help - do you have one? I'd guess that you have a mid eighties 501, but there's no real telling without seeing some tags.

Edited by jdavis on Jan 15, 2006 at 09:36 PM

[Paul T]

The second photo looks very different, but I would be pretty certain just from your first pix that these jeans are what we said before, 80s Shrink To Fits - definitely not LVC, not selvage, but jeans that were almost certainly made in the US and should age pretty nicely. And if you paid $30 or so you got a decent deal, so I would quit worrying and start wearing the things!

Edited by Paul T on Jan 16, 2006 at 03:34 AM

[OBC]

Thanks dudes, im not worried, just curiouse. May post pics of the tags just 4 curiosities sakes.

Thanks

OBC Cat

[6MT]

Quote:

that isn't selvage. that is just the end of the roll of denim. it is possibly called chainstitching? i'm not sure but i know it isn't selvage. it isn't lvc and you can't tell if it is stf unless you see the tag or accompanying paperwork, but the denim looks like it is either normal denim or stf denim that has been washed.

--- Original message by obsessis on Jan 15, 2006 08:01 PM

its call overlock stitch