Skull Jeans by An Alchemist

[larssss]

bought these in august at fab four in harajuku. washed once and worn probably 2-3 days a week

as you can see, unfortunately, the knees have bagged out pretty good

had a bunch of problems with the stitching on the back pockets, luckily i'm able to do repairs myself otherwise this would be a much bigger hassle

Overall I'm pleased with how their fading and such, i'm bummed the knees have bagged out so much and the fact that the stitching keeps ripping, although only on the back pockets, overall though this is enough to keep me from buying another pair in the future. however I'll keep wearing them for the time being

[maydenchina]

Yea, i noticed the baggy knee thing too, its not as bad if you soak them often. The backpockets are definitely what made me get a pair of F310s tho, i dont wanna deal with constant ripping of the denim n stitches

[enojy]

i need to wash mine again or soak them or something. the kneebagging on my 5010s is fucking insane. i guess it's the tradeoff for good combs.

[renski]

I tried looking through the thread but didn't get a definite answer but do the thighs stretch out much on the 5010bk? my pair seems to be much more fitted than I like.

[demarco]

been wearing mine now for 2 weeks and they've stretched to a comfortable state. I'd say .25 of everyday wear.

[sunkenshoes]

The ass in my 5010's stretched out a lot already. Probably from cycling. Looks like shit now.

[heBAY]

Okay...

My interest in a pair of 5010xx's has been resparked. The only thing that is fuckin' up the fantasy is all this talk of "2 months of wear and my back pockets are peeling off". I think 1 person recently had no problems with a well-worn pair of Skulls. Everyone else seems to say the same thing about the pure cotton stitching decaying early.

I heard the same thing about the Somet 003's and have washed frequently (once a month) because of it...I see some threads thinning a bit in the back, but I'd say they are in pretty good shape for 6 months of everyday wear. Hope the Skulls can prove to be the same.

[Guest koi.boi]

How do i know which Skulls have the cross mark stiching on the 5010xx...

[mrpenguin354]

How do i know which Skulls have the cross mark stiching on the 5010xx...

If you order from a shop within the United States, there will be a cross on the back pocket. If you order anywhere outside of the United States, you will have a little red tab.

[miamiheat04]

I just received my skull 5010xx 6x6 indigo in which I paid a mere $120 . Anyway my question is they fit a little slimmer then I thought they would and it is kind of hard to sit in them. the buttons all button up and dont really show pulling like jeans do when they are too small so do you guys think these will stretch enough for me? Thanks I definitely will appreciate some help.

[Guest Montreal]

^ they wont strech enough. you should sell them to me.

[Guest Montreal]

Considering buying a pair of 5010s.

Quick question..

5'11, 170-180ish. Like to sag a little. Should a 33 be fine?

Thanks!

[cjbreed]

Probably need a little more info than that. Big difference between 170 and 180. I am 6' 2", 180 and a 34 is actually kinda loose in the waist on me, so yeah a 33 would likely be fine...

[miamiheat04]

Do you really believe that or just want the jeans? haha, If you think they will stay too tight it is definitely an option for you to buy them.

^ they wont strech enough. you should sell them to me.

[Guest Montreal]

Do you really believe that or just want the jeans? haha, If you think they will stay too tight it is definitely an option for you to buy them.

What size are your jeans? I'm definitely not qualified to answer your question btu I think they will indeed stretch from what I've read in here. Also depends on how you like your jeans to fit - tight or regular.

Probably need a little more info than that. Big difference between 170 and 180. I am 6' 2", 180 and a 34 is actually kinda loose in the waist on me, so yeah a 33 would likely be fine...

I'm 175 in the morning, 180 at night. Running a 5k mini-marathon in a month so I think I'll be down to 170ish at that point. My RRDS and SSDS are 32s (fit alright), and my APC Hipsters are a 31 (again, fit pretty well).

Input?

[heBAY]

Seriously...is the cotton thread really an issue...or is it just because people don't wash their dirty ass denim for months on end?

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

Seriously...is the cotton thread really an issue...or is it just because people don't wash their dirty ass denim for months on end?

Full threadstalk mode.

Not my fault we like to talk about the same shit.

I've had NO problems with my pair, I don't think they are the 5010's though. Are those the tightest joints, cause mine are more of a "relaxed slim-fit" if you will.

Regardless, they're great. Took a month or so to fully stretch out. And I haven't washed them since I got em (a year ago) BUT, I rotate a lot, and those don't get worn more than 4 times a month average, if that.

[Jackboot]

I'm at about 2.5 months and haven't washed yet...I just noticed that the stitching has broken in the top left corner of the right back pocket (just above the cross stitching). There is a gap of about 1 cm where the pocket is separating from the seat...I hope this trend doesn't continue because my pair is starting to get some nice looking fades I think.

I'm planning on washing at 4 months but with the broken threads in the back pocket already I'm a bit nervous to let them go for another 1.5 months without water...

[BUME]

its the same as the warehouse contest jeans with everyones crotch blowing out. its because the jeans are vintage-stitched. i have no idea why skull would use vintage stitching with modern cut jeans, however, there is word that they are changing it (some pages back) about using better stitching. I'd recommend you wait for the new skulls.

MUTHAFUCKER.

[cjbreed]

^^^ I think the problem might seem to be worse than it is. And apparently the 6x6 model holds up a little better than the others. But it does seem odd that they haven't made a change in thread yet, given all the very public protests...

But in any case I heard that it is pretty vague as to when exactly they will make a switch, but it is not expected to happen for a while. So I just ordered extra denim and thread for repairs, and plan to fix any problems at the earliest sign...

[miamiheat04]

Sorry I dont want to turn this into a buy and sell thread but I just tried on my 31's again and I need a 32 so if anyone wants to trade a new 32 for my new 31 contact me thatd be great or $130 shipped for the 31 Skull 6x6 indigo BNWT. Do Eternal 811 fit more relaxed thn the Skull 5010?

[ggatsby]

just to post my 5010 6x6 stitching experience:

mine started a little too tight to begin with, but have stretched to accomodate and now fit quite well. the fact that alot of ppl do this might be what contributes to the stitching blowouts. but in my case, ive only really had a problem with the back pocket that i put my wallet in. a few stiches have ripped around the corners of my wallet (which is one of those super-slim gimmicky ones) but crotchwise, i don't see any blowout danger.

[enojy]

if you don't do anything destructive in your jeans (skateboarding for example) then the cotton thread isn't going to just evaporate like some people would lead you to believe.

[Lloyd]

Seriously...is the cotton thread really an issue...or is it just because people don't wash their dirty ass denim for months on end?

I'm confused as to why anyone could think not washing your jeans causes them to fall apart. Just how exactly does an accumulation of sweat residue and grime cause threads to break? It makes no sence.

Comparing a pair of skulls with a pair of NSs, worn in a similar manner, I've found the thread in the skulls does tend to break more often. I guess they use weaker thread in 'em.

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

I'm confused as to why anyone could think not washing your jeans causes them to fall apart. Just how exactly does an accumulation of sweat residue and grime cause threads to break? It makes no sence.

It don't make no sence but it do make sense. Feel me cuzzo?

[fndmybetterhalf]

I'm confused as to why anyone could think not washing your jeans causes them to fall apart. Just how exactly does an accumulation of sweat residue and grime cause threads to break? It makes no sence.

Comparing a pair of skulls with a pair of NSs, worn in a similar manner, I've found the thread in the skulls does tend to break more often. I guess they use weaker thread in 'em.

think of it this way. what makes jeans fade? the sweat, residue, grime, etc rubs against the indigo to wear down the dye/fabric. same goes for the thread. but because the thread is not tightly woven like denim is, its often much more vulnerable to the thread breaking.

similarly, wearing your jeans without washing for months and months, your denim is getting stretched in every way possible and while washing it shrinks it back together to make it much more tightly woven, similar goes for the thread. you stretch the thread in a bunch of different ways and not wash it, its gonna wear down faster.

[Lloyd]

think of it this way. what makes jeans fade? the sweat, residue, grime, etc rubs against the indigo to wear down the dye/fabric. same goes for the thread. but because the thread is not tightly woven like denim is, its often much more vulnerable to the thread breaking.

similarly, wearing your jeans without washing for months and months, your denim is getting stretched in every way possible and while washing it shrinks it back together to make it much more tightly woven, similar goes for the thread. you stretch the thread in a bunch of different ways and not wash it, its gonna wear down faster.

Re your first point, if I get you correctly, what you mean is that sweat particles are absorbed into the fabric of the jean and as the fabric is moved, these increase abrasion, in the same way that getting sand under your foreskin makes for an abrasive wank. I would like to suggest that there is no evidence that the presence of sweat residue increases abrasion, indeed it may decrease it, in the same way that having butter under your foreskin makes for a less abrasive wank. I'd be wary of drawing macroscopic analogies with a microscopic process which neither of us understand fully. Although, having said that, I think that if jeans were dirty, then there could be particles of grit between the fibres of the denim, which would increase abrasion. I'd say that sweat may not increase wear, but dirt does.

Your second point is also very interesting. I agree that when denim is streatched out, the surface area of strands, and hence the amount of indigo getting rubbed, increases. So, denim that is streatched out will wear faster, and also strands will be more inclined to snap, because they are under tension.

So, I agree that not washing can lead to an increase in the rate of fading. There's a lot to think about when it comes to fading, eh?

[Dick Danger]

fading is the one thing in the world that will take care of itself if you just leave it the fuck alone....kinda like your teeth....meth-mouth=great fade

[zombiefood]

From Washing tips (by Denim Works denim specialists in Shibuya)

1. Is it true that you shouldn't wash your jeans to get beautiful contrasts?

It is true if you are looking just for contrasts. But as you wear your jeans, sweat and grease gets inside the fabric, making it soggier and weaker against abrasion. In other words, your denim becomes prone to rip apart. So if you want your denim to last you should wash your denim often. During winter, wash your denim when it starts feeling a little damp.

[m1sterko]

just wash when you need to... no one will shoot you if you go for a week and wash it