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[yea!]

his new album is damn good. especially angel echoes. love cry grew on me big time... so perfect when the vocals drop.

[haploid]

You guys know what you're talking about with dubstep, so tell me what you think about this track I'm working on.

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[broken_dubz]

i applaud your producing skills, i'm not so sure i'd call it dubstep though.

its kinda like wobble-dubstep, but theres far too much going on in the track.

these are my 2 cents, as i said good job for producing it and keep at it.

[haploid]

What would you call it? There is a lot of percussion, but if you listen closely it's mostly dubstep-type patterns, but as usual the track develops a mind of its own so I guess the dubstepness got lost in translation.

[Magsåvningsreserven]

what's a dubstep pattern

[haploid]

The drum patterns. Even though there is a breakbeat slamming away, the kick and snare are still very much dubstep and the tempo, 75bpm (I can't write well at half time 140), is only slightly faster than most dubstep.

How is dubstep defined? I might be totally off here, but my thinking is: If it's at 140 (if playing at half time) or similar, has a complex percussive rhythms, a few "drops" and a bass-focused melody, it's probably dubstep.

I'm not trying to argue so don't take any of these comments as somehow accusitory, I just really don't know what I should call it. A discussion about the definition of dubstep would probably be benefitial to this thread as well.

[---1319151593]

Haploid your tune is pretty tough to classify but in my opinion it sounds closest to "Trip Hop". I could totally see this on Ninja Tune, at least the first half anyways.

Dubstep in itself is pretty tough to describe as there are so many different styles but the one thing that ties them all together is the syncopated groove that the kick and snare define.

Check out this vid, not sure what you're using (guessing fruity loops) but he's using Acid (lol). Regardless Rusko is the man and the main talking points pretty much apply to all styles of dubstep

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[---1319151593]

Forgot there were 4 parts to the tutorial, you should be able to find them all on the youtube.

[broken_dubz]

i think theres also one with benga.

i saw in one of those dj magazines an article on how to produce dubstep, but this was about 2 years ago.

i wouldn't take lessons from rusko, guy is destroying dubstep

[Magsåvningsreserven]

i fucking hate that twat

[---1319151593]

really now...

[yea!]

yes.

the benga one is wicked. futuremusic mag i think.

[jack napier]

agree w/ the fuck rusko sentiment

aside from fabriclive 37, which is still tits. mebbe b/c of caspa...

[Magsåvningsreserven]

forgot i still had jme shit, i was on that boy better know hype like mad haha

shu huuuuuuuuut yah muh

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for the badboys init

[Double D]

Saw Shackleton live last night, fucking smashed it.

haploid - re: what is/isn't dubstep... there's a whole lot of things, but I think one of the most important things that sets dubstep apart from similar genres is it's referencing of it's predecessors - grime derived bass, uk garage vocal hooks, swingy double tempo hihats. It's definitely more complex than 'half tempo and mega reverb'. To be honest I'm cynical as to whether a lot of 'dubstep' should even be termed so... 2562 seems to spend more time referencing old FSOL records than London garage, for example.

Also 75bpm might not seem that different a tempo to dubstep, but when you double it up you're clocking at 150, which is waaaay fast.

[Double D]

What would you call it? There is a lot of percussion, but if you listen closely it's mostly dubstep-type patterns, but as usual the track develops a mind of its own so I guess the dubstepness got lost in translation.

Rhythm and choice of timbres are much more idiomatic of trip hop than dubstep to be honest. As said before there's way too many ideas going on at once, and the hihats get really messy. Probably just need to lose that breakbeat over the top I think.

[alexryb]

as dubstep gets more popular, a TON of generic dance music is taking dubstep-esque choices in tones, percussion, etc. it's really funny to hear my friends be like "check out this tight dubstep joint!" and i'm like "bro, just because it has wobbly bass doesn't mean it's dubstep"

[goat]

new Pangaea

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[IanFM]

Saw Shackleton live last night, fucking smashed it.

haploid - re: what is/isn't dubstep... there's a whole lot of things, but I think one of the most important things that sets dubstep apart from similar genres is it's referencing of it's predecessors - grime derived bass, uk garage vocal hooks, swingy double tempo hihats. It's definitely more complex than 'half tempo and mega reverb'. To be honest I'm cynical as to whether a lot of 'dubstep' should even be termed so... 2562 seems to spend more time referencing old FSOL records than London garage, for example.

Also 75bpm might not seem that different a tempo to dubstep, but when you double it up you're clocking at 150, which is waaaay fast.

Honestly tempo gets really twisted by the producer anyway, a bunch of the Instra:mental stuff is that tempo but doesn't feel like it, Loefah has a bunch of 145 bpm stuff and no one could tell. Then again those are half-step bits.

[haploid]

Saw Shackleton live last night, fucking smashed it.

haploid - re: what is/isn't dubstep... there's a whole lot of things, but I think one of the most important things that sets dubstep apart from similar genres is it's referencing of it's predecessors - grime derived bass, uk garage vocal hooks, swingy double tempo hihats. It's definitely more complex than 'half tempo and mega reverb'. To be honest I'm cynical as to whether a lot of 'dubstep' should even be termed so... 2562 seems to spend more time referencing old FSOL records than London garage, for example.

Also 75bpm might not seem that different a tempo to dubstep, but when you double it up you're clocking at 150, which is waaaay fast.

Thanks for the input,

By the way, the high hats sound so strange because the samples are chopped as if they were going to be played in succession at 100 BPM, so by putting it at 75, I've effectively created an intense triplet-type stutter.

I think I'm just going to continue going where this track wants to take me, and not try to revise it to a more dubstep type composition. But, I'll take what you told me to heart when I next decide to take that route.

[goat]

fuckin killer track

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[derdankhund]

np:

HD4000 - Jekal

Sukh Knight - Diesel not Petrol (Noah D remix)

Noah D - Seeeriousss

Riz MC - Radar (Sukh Knight remix)

16bit - The Tale of the Exploding Fist

Foreign Beggars - Hit that Gash (Itchy Naaan rerub)

Shandy - Doom

Knight Riderz - Hold On

Excision & Datsik - Swagga

Datsik - 3 Fist Style

Zeno - False Alarm

[rockon99]

Anyone know what movie the samples in this are from?

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[Double D]

Thanks for the input,

By the way, the high hats sound so strange because the samples are chopped as if they were going to be played in succession at 100 BPM, so by putting it at 75, I've effectively created an intense triplet-type stutter.

I think I'm just going to continue going where this track wants to take me, and not try to revise it to a more dubstep type composition. But, I'll take what you told me to heart when I next decide to take that route.

Maybea HPF would make it blend better, there's some middley frequencies that are cluttering up the rhythm a bit. Or maybe hard panning the triplets one side and the eighth-notes the other. I dunno, brain is fuzzed from too many cigarettes and coffees to think straight.

[e0d9n0b5]

usually i dont like the wobbly stuff but this is SICK

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FACE GETS SPLAT

[---1319151593]

^------- Ya man, that shit is sick.

Check these out

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[Analog]

Does anyone have an mp3 of this that doesn't skip (~1:27 mark)? All the ones I've found are from the same source – they all skip.

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[yea!]

analog: hyetal

whooa

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[Analog]

analog: hyetal

Nice! Thanks yea!

[jizzimmy]

so rusko is playing a free show at this club in town... think i might check it out.

it's a shame my first dubstep show is gonna be rusko at an overhyped club. already know it's not gonna compare to the krush show i went to last sunday.