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So an owner at my LBS told me he doesn't recommend people run track frames on the streets...hit a pot hole and better change of fork snapping/bending and wheel hitting the tubing..

LBS owner is right...track frame are not for road....cause they tend to be stiffer in nature and they dont flex. You need to look out for harzard...Remeber the article on campagnolo flange snapped.

I am changing my fork to easton carbon...with brakes soon. Laced my front wheel 3x DP18 with shitty shimano hub, I am not running my non-machined Mavic open pro with brakes.

btw KNUCK i saw ur post on BF ..... Fun lacing wheels but bitch to get it true. So heading to my mater with turing stand tomorrow to true it up.

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Im almost done with it. Im selling my single speed so that I can get a set of black sugino 75s

Man don't do a thing like that. I was just pricing a set today and it came out to like 367 before shipping with a sugino BB and black sugino chain ring.

fuck that, just wait till after the election when the dollar gets some strength back

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Man don't do a thing like that. I was just pricing a set today and it came out to like 367 before shipping with a sugino BB and black sugino chain ring.

fuck that, just wait till after the election when the dollar gets some strength back

I priced it locally today like thus:

Sugino 75 cranks black-175

Sugino 48 t chainring black-80

Campagnolo veloce BB- 40

total=295 and I don't have to pay for shipping

and I got some used Toshi doubles for 50

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So an owner at my LBS told me he doesn't recommend people run track frames on the streets...hit a pot hole and better change of fork snapping/bending and wheel hitting the tubing..

If I believed everything that lbs's told me, I would be riding a Jamis with a rack, horn, and camelback right now.

look at messengers, not that they are a prime example of anything, but many do ride track frames, and track hubs, with track forks, for much longer and harder than any of us do, and they seem to get by ok.

imo.

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Someone argue with me saying...aww SLICK tyres is better for wet surface than dry cause there are bigger surface area on the road. I was like this is the first time i heard it in my life with cars and bike.

And some dude back him up.

AM I RIGHT OR WRONG??

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stick tires are better for DRY because of that reason, but not for water.

think about it for a second. water is not compressible.

Yes then why ppl r stupid enough to argue with me :(

and why would bike company put grove on if his theory is right

aww well...time to get back to study.

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Bike tires don't need tread in wet conditions because the contact patch is so narrow that hydroplaning is a non-issue (in addition, the shape of the tire forces the water to the sides, further reducing the risk). I think the only reason they make pavement tires with grooves in them is because people think they need them because car tires have them.

Tread for on-road use

Bicycle tires for on-road use have no need of any sort of tread features; in fact, the best road tires are perfectly smooth, with no tread at all! Unfortunately, most people assume that a smooth tire will be slippery, so this type of tire is difficult to sell to unsophisticated cyclists. Most tire makers cater to this by putting a very fine pattern on their tires, mainly for cosmetic and marketing reasons. If you examine a section of asphalt or concrete, you'll see that the texture of the road itself is much "knobbier" than the tread features of a good quality road tire. Since the tire is flexible, even a slick tire deforms as it comes into contact with the pavement, acquiring the shape of the pavement texture, only while incontact with the road.

People ask, "But don't slick tires get slippery on wet roads, or worse yet, wet metal features such as expansion joints, paint stripes, or railroad tracks?" The answer is, yes, they do. So do tires with tread. All tires are slippery in these conditions. Tread features make no improvement in this.

From http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html

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Bike tires don't need tread in wet conditions because the contact patch is so narrow that hydroplaning is a non-issue (in addition, the shape of the tire forces the water to the sides, further reducing the risk). I think the only reason they make pavement tires with grooves in them is because people think they need them because car tires have them.

From http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html

Righteooo..now i will start using slicks.

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