My first "real" jeans - Evisu #2

[broady]

Hi guys, I'm a total newb when it comes to denim, I've been lurking around here for a few months.

Today I was shopping around and stumbled upon this store that holds all this really awesome denim, you guys would cream your pants (if you're under a size 32)...

Anyways, I tried these on, and I like them apart from the big evisu logos, but I guess I could come to like them, or somehow make them less obvious.

What I wanna ask is - what are these (more details)? Are they any good/genuine/jap? Will the size change? Are they raw denim (they arent selvage)?

Should I wear them lower?? (The waist is pretty tight right now as you can see)

By the way, I got them for AU$70, which is about US$50. Not bad for a pair of jeans anyhow, I think.

Here are the pics:

[poly800rock]

never seen a pair of 2001 fit so well, welcome to the club

[Cameland]

look good, whre on earth did you find them for 70AU. i want in on that.

[mike lowrey]

never seen those before, color looks a bit odd and I havent seen the gulls look like that either. I thought they were always painted, not embroided?

$50 sounds very sketchy.

[broady]

Hi, yes, that's what I'm asking, whether anyone knows if they're real or not?

The colour in the pic with me is off, beacuse of the camera, the real colour is more like the ones in the close ups.

I got these in an op-shop/second hand shop, and $70 was more expensive than the G-star, and even some moschino pants that I saw.

PS: Are they raw?

[atom]

i'm afraid they're not genuine Evisu.

They gulls and waist tag look strange. And so does the overall look the denim.

[xviralx]

the blue has the very cheap or low quality look....it looks like alot of indigo is gonna run for your first wash or soak...or maybe its flash?

[broady]

Yeah I think that colour is from the flash, it is closer to the pic of the waist tag ("32")

Just found this on amazon: it seems like this is embroidery too

"Archive evisu collection. 100% genuine vintage original. Evisu mens slim fitting 5 pocket denim jeans. Unwashed raw selvedge denim. Red embroidered logo pockets."

[swooc]

I think they are fake too. The gulls on yours look totally different to the authentic ones. You should keep wearing them though cause they fit you really good. Who knows, they might give you nice fading like those thai fakes .

[CaptMomo]

hey, iirc there were evisus with embroided gulls.

[drgitlin]

hey, iirc there were evisus with embroided gulls.

The early italian-made cinchbacks had embroidered gulls.

[nemoulette]

They're fake. Given those aren't the japanese Evisus, they shouldn't have the red tag, nor given length measure.

[frideswide]

They are almost certainly fake, but for US$50 you might still consider them good value I suppose.

On the other hand, if you're going to spend all the time and effort breaking in a a pair of raw denim, you may as well start off with some quality denim so the end result will be worth having. You can probably get some genuine Japanese No 2 Evisu (with or without the gull wings) for around US$200 + shipping + bid service cost if any

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/hinoya/119788/143849/

[Friduric]

Are they raw denim (they arent selvage)?

That combined with what I'm seeing on those pics leads me to one conclusion: Fake.

[damnIam]

They are jeans and they fit you good. I would take the tags and gulls off them altogether and just wear hell out of them. 50 bucks is a solid.

[rocker4life]

$50 for a pair of evisu is quite a steal even for a good fake

[swooc]

$70au is a bit too much imo considering the fact that these were bought from a second hand store.

[coleslawyum]

Without a doubt, 120% fake. But like the rest of these posters, if you like 'em, then you should rock 'em.

[broady]

Shall I take them back, and demand my money back, or just take those huge, gold embroidery off?

Or leave the embroidery, and wear them anyway? Or is that too poseur

[Friduric]

Shall I take them back, and demand my money back, or just take those huge, gold embroidery off?

Or leave the embroidery, and wear them anyway? Or is that too poseur

Well, if the price was ~50 USD, I'ld take 'em back. Especially if they were passed of as genuine. I bought two pair of fakes here in sweden for less than 10 USD, my sister found two pair of evisus at the second-hand store where she works. Sounded fake over the phone, was phake, but for 5USD a piece I didn't really care.

I use mine as laundry day denim. For the layman, I'm doing laundry in 200 USD denim. For the connoisseur I'm doing laundry in crappy denim .

[Tenchi]

Good things never cheap, cheap things never good (quote from samplekickz.com)

Just pay the full thing next time, if you're in sydney, go to SP1 at the victoria galleries

ooh and evisus should have a jerky patch

[poly800rock]

well, thats why i said 2001 fit you well, because the regular 2001 cut is very baggy ass..

[tweeds]

Good things never cheap, cheap things never good (quote from samplekickz.com)

Just pay the full thing next time, if you're in sydney, go to SP1 at the victoria galleries

ooh and evisus should have a jerky patch

UNIQLO = cheap and good

conversely, pricey things not always good.

but yeah that sort of price for evisu should always raise a suspicious eyebrow.

[cultizm]

I am afraid too. Not real one... A good price for a real EVISU is around 140-160 USD. this will be a cheap one in the sale season...

othwerwise faked stuff... sorry for that...

www.cultizm.com only real stuff

[__3xL]

Broady - are they selvage or no ?

[coleslawyum]

Hey, if the store was selling them as real, then maybe you should get your money back. The black waist size label is a dead giveaway. The waist size and inseam length should be printed on inside cotton label. And underneath that it should be printed "MADE IN JAPAN" The red flag label should also say "EVISU". Finally, the rivets should say "Japan" in Japanese, not "EVISU". It's kind of messed up for a store to fake out their customers like that. People expecting to get some great denim that will last a lifetime, end up getting some denim that will maybe last 3 days. You might as well get some Levi's STF's for 30$.

[swooc]

Shall I take them back, and demand my money back, or just take those huge, gold embroidery off?

Or leave the embroidery, and wear them anyway? Or is that too poseur

I'd keep them, they really do look good on you. As for the embroidery, its upto you. I would probably keep them on cause i do like the evisu logo. Also, most people will think you have a pair of authentic evisu anyway

[Tenchi]

What about the ones made in China? My rivets say evisu on them on both sides

and the length isn't printed on the inside cotton label but on a tag on top on the cotton label just like borady's (except its white not black)

and no mine aren't fake, I dont think SP1 would sell fakes...

[coleslawyum]

Tenchi, I am unfamiliar with Evisu denim from China. As far as I know, the No.2 grade Evisu denim is only made in Japan. I think No.3 denim is made in Italy, without selvedge. At some point Evisu entered a licensing agreement with a company in Hong Kong. Those leather patches have no grade stamp. I'm sure there are other members here who know more about this.

Broady, do you know if your Evisu jeans have selvedge?

[broady]

Hi, they arent selvedge. They have red chain stitching on the outseam.

In any case, can anyone verify if these are raw? I might as well keep them if they are, because I like them, other than the fact that they might not be real