Overcomer

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Thanks for the pictures and the measurements! They have a very strong taper and carrot shape, interesting. Is the inseam also at 34" like advertised? They look quite short.

Which proxy did you use?

[sebsakob]

I am glad that you remind me to measure the inseam. Sorry that I forgot that.

The inseam measures 83cm/32,7" in unwashed state. You are right! They are very short for advertised 34" and they do have a very strong taper. 

I used superbuy. Very happy with their service. They arrived in less than a week.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Very good to know! So they might end up shorter than 30".

How are the fees for superbuy? Never heard of them.

And since you are also from Germany, was your package also handled by the dreaded GDSK or went it smoothly through?

[sebsakob]

There was no service fee with superbuy. They documented and inspected everything really fast and detailed. And they even attached a photo of the pants when they arrived at their warehouse.

In the end I decided to go with DHL express in terms of shipping which was a good decision because they came really fast. And I think I was lucky because I did not had to pay customs. All in all I paid 124€/131$. Shipping was really expensive to be honest as the pants on their own cost around 90$.

[volvo240thebest]

How it's possible that there was no service fee? I've tried three or four different taobao proxy services and they all seem to love to f°°k in the a°$€ as much as possible... Even the currency exchange is always ridiculously high.

[sebsakob]

http://www.superbuy.com/en/page/help/#p0_14_helpId34

[DvsForest]

do they have some offline store near Guangzhou? thanks in advance.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Are there any more infos available about the denim? Cotton, mill, other specification, etc.
Since the pictures from Taobao can't be translated I hope someone else can chime in

[l13902733261]

some fades

[istewi]

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Edited January 16, 2019 by istewi

[dilemmaworker]

im on my second pair of Overcomer 051ss. They've changed denim but there's no big difference. Mainly the new one has some slight, slight slubbiness or unevenness in the weave, and the first denim had a bit of an 'open-ended' look to it. went down one in waist and length, so they're just perfect now. i think of these as my new standard jeans, replacing APC for now.

[istewi]

@dilemmaworker I enjoy my 051ss very much. Overcomer makes a great pair or jeans. The straight leg cut they released has my interest as well.

Fit pick for this small thread.

Edited May 2, 2019 by istewi

[l13902733261]

Repro of the 1978 "501DS" the last 66

The original 

[dilemmaworker]

’最后的66‘是什么意思？

[istewi]

43 minutes ago, dilemmaworker said:

What does 'final 66' mean?

I think it's that last years that Levis made the 66 style jeans. I believe the 1970s 501s are considered to be the 66 style. 

[istewi]

Just a quick fit with my 051s.

[istewi]

Thought I would upload some quick pictures of my Overcomers (remocrevo). On and off wear for a few years. 

 

[edwardlj]

first time to try on a pair of 051exx， 1950s' model...xinjiang super long staple cotton. they come as one-wash, 14oz(after wash).

replica of the old cone denim, soft and comfy, red-bluish hue, not as grainy as jp's fabric, with some subtle verticle lines. 

Edited June 1, 2023 by edwardlj

[beautiful_FrEaK]

When did they change their name? Always liked the brand from the pics I saw. The above looks really good.

[edwardlj]

On 3/28/2017 at 2:50 PM, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Are there any more infos available about the denim? Cotton, mill, other specification, etc.
Since the pictures from Taobao can't be translated I hope someone else can chime in

there is also very little info in Chinese that we could find. seems the founder does not like to introduce or promote their products.

They used american cotton and cone denim before and now Xinjiang cotton. Their denim is from the same mill where Redcloud buys theirs too. but different dyes and textures. Overcomer's is more true to the original and has a beter fade imo (very neat with verticle lines, 60s and 70s alike), whereas i find Redcloud has a 'snow flake' texture like the 80s and 90s (or stone-wash like fade). Both are very bluish in colour than the Japanese denim(usually more dark greyish). In my opinion, Chinese denim is more like cone denim. 

Japanese denim looked like cone denim in 1990s, now they are at completely different directions (execept that Resolute's fabric still looks classic i guess).

Overcomer 051ss changed its cut now, with slimmer straight legs, They're running very short and do not offer more length options as before (sales' affected by the pandemic??) . The new cut is getting closer to Resolute 710, just a bit looser.

and they changed their names at the same time, i think around 2018? to RemocRevo (a reverse spell of Overcomer).

 

They did a 1922 model 2 years ago, run in a limited edition, with cone denim.

 

now they have 3 models, 051ss (1975), 051ds(1978-) and 051exx (1950s). they are different denims. 

 

I never try 051ss, probly next year.......

 

Edited June 2, 2023 by edwardlj

[beautiful_FrEaK]

Also saw the 051DS...a late 66 pair. They looked lovely with the intentionally bad finish

Edited June 1, 2023 by beautiful_FrEaK

[edwardlj]

9 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

Also saw the 051DS...a late 66 pair. They looked lovely with the intentionally bad finish

ah yes. i forgot, a lighter dye and slightly wider model than 051ss. i think they discontinued this model, only a couple of pairs left in Taobao.

Redcloud has a similar replica model called F 427s, sloppy sewn late 70s model. i think i have posted some pics in Redcloud thread before. 

really wanna see a worn pair and how they fade..

Edited June 2, 2023 by edwardlj

[beautiful_FrEaK]

They look identical 

[edwardlj]

2 hours ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

They look identical 

i hope their denim are different. probably the same cotton ratio though(Xinjiang/Turpan cotton).  

[edwardlj]

Recloud and Overcomer are closer recently, they cooperate a War model together. it is still selling. 

Redcloud X Overcomer s423, 14oz Japanese denim

 

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c-s.w4002-22570169075.21.3a4d2267IjNxvl&id=672415289076

 

[edwardlj]

long staple cotton came out of my belt loops, 5cm~