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It's an interplay of genetic factors and environmental factors that leads to depression.

 

It's pretty well established that individuals who are "earnest" (?) and take everything seriously are more prone to developing it than those who don't give a shit about fuck. You can't really tell those people to stop overthinking – because they just can't.

 

Also, I hypothesize that there's some sort of tipping point / threshold for coping with stressful events. The difference between healthy vs. unhealthy is how low that threshold is, and it is most likely genetically determined. 

 

I'm not depressed, but I have anxiety disorder so I'm speaking from my personal experience. 

 

It's definately easier said than done, but there are ways to reduce overthinking. I used to get all panicky when I felt the most subtle pain anywhere in my body. I immediately thought of the worst shit that may happen to me. I still do, but the time span of the anxious thoughts has shortened greatly. 

 

As I've already said, meditation has done wonders for me. You slowly recognize these thoughts and learn to deal with them. Overthinking is usually not the way (never is imo). 

 

btw, sorry if I'm preachy

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Sounds like you de-conditioned yourself from associating pain with the "panic attack". The latter part of what you are talking about sounds like mindfulness. That's like DIY CBT + Mindfulness. I'm not saying you are wrong. Overthinking is probably not the right term. 

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As I said before , you aren't thinking this through yet.

Your hypochondria caused you to develop a anxiety.

You weren't even thinking and knowing but you were reacting on impulse.

Meditation can and will help in those areas as to lighten your spirits but it doesn't take away the hypochondria you were(and probably still are) suffering. Talking to someone and getting to recognize your fears and anxiety might reduce the anxiety greatly. Because with the meditation you are changing your mindset but it doesn't get  you out of the pattern of your hypochondria.

 

So the anxiety isn't a overthought , it can well be a process that you will have to get through to get to the end of the tunnel

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too fucking down to even enjoy spring weather. fuck man, i hate this feeling. every time i get like this i hope it'll be the last time. 

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Sounds like you de-conditioned yourself from associating pain with the "panic attack". The latter part of what you are talking about sounds like mindfulness. That's like DIY CBT + Mindfulness. I'm not saying you are wrong. Overthinking is probably not the right term. 

 

you are probably right

 

i was replying to the dating q when i said you are overthinking. anyway, what i was trying to say is you can't solve the problem with the same thinking that created it. 

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The past year or so has been a roller coaster for me with some great highs and treacherous lows. But even at my highest points I still found myself feeling incredibly empty inside. I have people around me who love and care a great deal about me but I still feel very much so alone. That being said, for me I think thats the real stinger with depression. Becoming frustrated with myself for not being able to be happy when i'm supposed to be? 

 

Despite all of my accomplishments big or small along with all of the great relationships I have with people there is this longing for something that I don't quite yet understand. 

 

But anyways, the reason Im here is because of a response I got from cameron- in superconfessional and I don't know if it was timing or what but it really made sense to me when I read it and made things a bit clearer. Im going to leave it here in hopes that someone else will find this useful. 

 

 

 

doesn't sound like you are sad, sounds like you are depressed.  there is a big difference.  sadness is a feeling that works towards an end and will resolve itself productively if you let it run the course.  depression is a lack of proper emotional expression.  people think depressed kids have to be sadboys but it is actually more like feeling lost, hopeless, or immobilized.  unlike sadness, depression will not run the course by itself.

 

sometimes you can get depressed when a large childhood trauma is working its way out of your psyche,  your brain shuts down a lot of facilities because it can only handle so much data at once.  sometimes a depression is your body's way of telling you to get your act in gear and cut some of the bullshit in the way of the only two things that matter, which are pursuing your desires and forming deeper human connections.  i would relate it to taking a really constipated shit.  dovo, i hope you get through this bowel movement in a safe and timely manner.  or take your time, whatever.  you know you have a lot of buddies here

 

 

 

We just get caught up in so much trivial bullshit that we forget that the meaning of life is entirely subjective. It really is what we make of it. For me, I've let others and my fears have great power over a lot of the decisions I've made thus far. I've let people tell me how i'm supposed to feel, what i'm supposed to want from life and how i'm supposed to live it and its been that way as long as I can remember whether it was my dad telling me that my childhood dreams were stupid or some salty naysayer that called their self my friend.  Perhaps this is why I feel empty at the end of everyday. Because I've never taken control of my own life. 

Its time to say yes to my dreams and goals. I'd much rather fail trying to do what I wanted than die without having tried. 

Things dont happen over night but I am going to do everything I can to make this the summer of dovo. 

Thanks to everyone whose messaged me or taken the time to share their experiences on this forum and in this thread. If you haven't done so and have something to share, please do because you never know; your words may end up being just what someone else needed to hear. 

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I've never sought out help for my persistent feelings of sadness, but I feel depressed on most days. I've lost interest in most things and I feel detached from everyone. Being physical disabled (have a noticeable gait problem), everyday things are often a struggle and its depressing having to deal with it. Don't get me wrong, I got a normal 9 to 5 job as a statistician and certain things are going well in my life, but not being able to walk long distances w/o taking numerous stops, having stability issues, not being able to stand on my feet for a long time, getting partial seizures, etc is pretty challenging and I don't go a day without feeling pitiful and sad for what I am. The worst is when I'm sitting in a coffee shop and staring out the window, and there are couples walking on the sidewalk while holding hands. I can hold hands and walk down the street with someone, but I wouldn't expect anyone to want to do so with me given my issues. It's very depressing knowing that "normal" things that people enjoy aren't and probably will never be part of my life.

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thats bullshit  get on your feet and go out and try to look for someone. dont let that psych take fucking over your life. theres a reason your like that and theres a reason why you should go on. and also theres a reason for someone to love you and be with you. get your game up boy do your shit. in no time youll be having kids in between both of yous hands

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my wife went  thru post partum fuck it was like the worse thing that can happen. but  nobody can help you even with a fucking cheering squad everyday but yourself. you just need to do a big step and leap out of it. its just gonna be night to day in like a flick of a switch. its all in your head. your mind is fucking you up. go against it. i know its hard but you have to.

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if you say "I cant be happy because i don't walk normal" you're assigning a conditional to your happiness and in a sense choosing to be depressed.

 

people get depressed because they lose a girl, lose a job, get hurt, get sick.  if you can't be happy because you can't walk normally you might never be happy.  you have the power to say fuck a disability, it's not gonna rule my life.

 

i got hurt and had to quit my job and it was the hardest thing i've ever dealt with and i was depressed for months and i give dap and respect for anyone dealing with a serious disability.  but it doesn't have to define you.

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hahaha im kindda good at words than math bro.

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how come my depression is worse when i'm going out, socializing and chilling at cultural events? i felt better sitting in my room alone. although typing this out, i know.

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dangerous path man - it's easier sitting in your room alone doing fa but do that too long and you stagnate and start fucking hating yourself and feeling left behind and like you're worthless and not going to be anything compared to anyone else. what happened to me anyway. 

 

gotta stay engaged with something - if you can do that in your room (creating etc) then power to you, but you should get some sun and exercise and social stimulation sometimes as well. hope your friends are cool. good luck man

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depression has many faces - i met a guy in hosptial who was a very outgoing kind of guy but when he would be in social situations like bars or w/e he would panic and that's when the depression would set in. social anxiety is a common problem and you should take it seriously. there are many people who have the same problems, you just have to be willing to accept help to manage yourself in social situations.

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how come my depression is worse when i'm going out, socializing and chilling at cultural events? i felt better sitting in my room alone. although typing this out, i know.

 

Let me take a guess - because being out amongst 'non depressed' or 'successful' people might highlight your own social and personal inadequacies. 

 

Notice how I put non depressed and successful in quotation marks - everybody has their own insecurities and issues, its just that those people may be riding a wave rather than a trough at that particular moment. I'm sure you have been in social situations where your good mood or projected success has made somebody else feel ill at-ease with themselves. 

 

Use facebook as an example - they have actually proven that being bombarded by the non-stop display of lifestyle pornography from your acquaintances (not friends) makes you depressed because you begin to perceive their comparative successes in life as benchmark to measure your own by. Get rid of that shit - the people that matter most are probably on your phone or you see them daily.

 

My advice - just begin to realise that though person B may have an attractive girlfriend or nice car, they are probably just as unhappy as you. To transcend beyond a state where you perceive another's lifestyle as a model to base yours upon is the first step in a path of projecting your own individual aura upon the world, and you will soon begin to notice how things will change for you. 

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watched weatherman

 

it was depressing even though by the end of the movie i think it was suppose to be uplifting 

 

maybe im depressed 

 

damnit 

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I have social anxiety and depression, and I can't stress enough that it never hurts to see a psychiatrist. I used to think that I'd never get through my 20's without offing myself. Now, I know I could never do it.

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srs: y'all should try functioning alcoholism

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both of my parents and my only sibling, older, have all experienced moderate to debilitating depression, so it was only a matter of time I guess. growing up in a violent home, one which fell apart really early on in my life kinda made it hard for me to maintain an emotional balance, so last year I was diagnosed with one of the depressive disorders. 

 

that's still a roller coaster, but I've gotten used to handling it now.

 

recently, though, one of my physical inadequacies started becoming more and more of a self-esteem issue and so I'm left at this difficult place. I don't want to talk about the cause of my self-esteem issue, which is crippling me and destroying my relationships with other people, because it is so sensitive and I fear a complete breakdown. At the same time, I live in constant fear that those that I love will learn about this inadequacy and drive me further down the hole.

 

i'm sure you guys know how it is, to be alone in something. i simply don't know what to do, besides completely reforming myself and my self-esteem

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Thor Harris of Swans talking a bit about his depression

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2 years of ongoing major depressive episodes and mood swings but never once hit a tipping point of any sort until 2am today while going through the refrigerator looking for something to eat

 

overthinking racing thoughts 24/7 hyper sensitive to everything everyone does and im just trying to be genuine but it feels like people are unforgiving and quick to assume although i don't even really know if this is true because this too is a sensitive inferiority complex assumption

 

i can't get out of my head and i feel like one gigantic paradox 

 

the worst part is the only place i feel moderately comfortable talking about it is on the miscellaneous subforum of an online fashion community because the collective interest we all have for clothing and design is stronger than any connection about anything i feel to anyone i know in person which is really sad

^This is the type of thinking that needs to change in order for you to start feeling "better." Once you stop constantly positioning yourself within the grand social spectrum and instead start thinking for yourself and the things that give you self-satisfaction, you'll start feeling MUCH better. Social standards and how we've been conditioned to feel in certain situations or as a result of something will ultimately make you feel like shit if you're not an overachiever. 

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srs: y'all should try functioning alcoholism

still stand by this

 

neg away bitches

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how come my depression is worse when i'm going out, socializing and chilling at cultural events? i felt better sitting in my room alone. although typing this out, i know.

 

sounds like more like social anxiety to me.

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sounds like more like social anxiety to me.

 

One usually follows the other. (i.e. varying forms of depression are a result of anxiety, depending on the situation.)

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why are u posting in this thread

nice first post.

 

because i can.

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