Denim Experiment

[HEWSINATOR]

.Also, I personally would never do it, but does anyone think that sandpapering, etc. should be allowed if only to see how earned as opposed to artificial wear compares beyond just speeding up the process. Just make sure that if people do that sort of thing that they admit to it.

I also want to see what kind of trash talk, sandpapering accusations and absurd wearing practices/activities start happening as the contest goes on...

You know what they say: "all is fair in love and war...and worldwide denim contests"

[Thorns]

All is fair, however sandpapering always looks bad, so I'm not too worried on that front.

[digital_denim]

I think i'm going to size down two to 28. My BK5000 at 29 were too easy to button up. Beatle, I'll pm you with a size change later if i decide too.

These are supposedly similar fit to the BK5000's correct??

[poly800rock]

no answers on that now.....wondering the same thing

[beatle]

Okay - I think so far I've responded to all pm's....

Changing your size won't be a problem - I will post all user names on Sunday - so that everybody can check - and nobody will be forgotten or mistakingly be put on the list for Samurai.

All of you who still want to change the size - just email me after that process - and it will be done .

I just need your size and names so that Toshiko can make a reservation on the serial number - and on the definite sizes.

Once she confirmed - everybody will order their Jeans directly through her - so you can discuss all ur payment and shipping matters directly with her.

Creditcard will be the preferred way of payment - so everybody will be certain that the right amount will be charged - and that the Lim Edition will fly safe and sound on the way to the right address.

All details about the "contestents" will be discussed on a different thread - we have to figure out many things - RULES - TIMEFRAME - WEBSITE (thanks again for offering help !!!) and so on.....

We will have plenty of time after the ordering process to discuss these things !!

Just make sure - pm Listing Full Name and Size !

Sizing matters - I am not a Samurai specialist - but the cut is similar to the S5000VX.

The thigh is slightly bigger - waist about the same.

Those who are brave - size down - all I can say is - shrinkage after 1st soak - and again after 1st wash.....thats when they will have their true size ....

As a matter of fact - I m still debating myself !

[soultek]

I'm out, those jeans are too slim for my body type..

[BrokenGlass]

will pm you beatle as soon as I decide on size... still debating between 28 and 27... my rag&bones have stretched like crazy and they are tagged 28 but have yet to see any water whatsoever. anyone have any advice? As of now I'm thinking I should get the 27 (which from what I understand will measure more like 29, my actual waist size) hot soak them down to 27 (will be way tight) and then after a day or two of wear be closer to an actual 29.. which will fit me... what do you think?

*note I just read the entire thread on the 5000bk and I came to no conclusion as far as sizing up or down

[rnrswitch]

I am dying here. I so want to do this, but need to buy the new frye brando boots. I would have also liked for the jeans to be a bit slimmer. I know my old lady will kill me if i do this.

[digital_denim]

will pm you beatle as soon as I decide on size... still debating between 28 and 27... my rag&bones have stretched like crazy and they are tagged 28 but have yet to see any water whatsoever. anyone have any advice? As of now I'm thinking I should get the 27 (which from what I understand will measure more like 29, my actual waist size) hot soak them down to 27 (will be way tight) and then after a day or two of wear be closer to an actual 29.. which will fit me... what do you think?

*note I just read the entire thread on the 5000bk and I came to no conclusion as far as sizing up or down

That's my plan of attack also.

[digital_denim]

Our true identities will be protected right?

People on the outside may not understand....I know they won't understand.

[rnrswitch]

Y'all should exchange emails... Just in case this site crashes and there is no way to get ahold of people.

[Yet Fung]

I think I'll change mine down to a 27 as well. Once they show up, I'll decide whether or not I'll do a warm or hot soak, and hope for the best. The 'slightly bigger thigh' is what changed my mind...

[dave023]

This project makes me mad....I don't fit in slim jeans!!!

[haptronic]

hm....while you guys are still discussing about the sources.....take5 has already started their 1 year project........are they copying us.....???

benny from take5 showed me their game when i was there almost a month ago so i don't think so...he also showed me his flat heads with a few months wear on them to show how easily they get vertical falling...asi understand theywereusing different brands in the contest..

nice contest beatle...oh if i hadn't just got two new jeans to break in...

[synthi]

Just posted this in the S5000 thread, but might be useful posting here as well, a comparison between size 28 & 29 S5000BK:

All measurements taken raw, 29's first, 28's after:

Waist (circumference): 32 / 30.4

Inseam: 38.5 / 38.5

Outseam: 48 / 48

Front rise: 10.5 / 10.5

Rear rise: 14.1 / 14

Knee: 9.6 / 9

Hem: 8.4 / 8

Interesting that the waist has the biggest difference. I figured the 28 tagged would measure 31 raw. For those thinking of dropping 2 sizes you might not want to now.

[digital_denim]

That's a pretty big drop. And nothing else changes much.

[beatle]

I have emailed Toshiko once more regarding sizing....I don't believe the reply will help much, either...

I just wanted to let you guys know that I came accross the S)500XX in the Lightning denim vol 2 - that sure is some crazy denim....real slubby - prob. mad fading...

Now I am really excited...

I will post more about size once Toshiko gets back to me...

[beatle]

BUT - since everybody is going to size down - I might as well swim against the stream and stick to my true size ..at least somebody should wear em loose...

[beatle]

or not...

Confused..Could it be any harder to make a decision on a size ...I don't think so.

[Chicken]

^ the question here might not be "how well will they fit me?" but more "what size is going to allow an optimal fading?"

[beatle]

This guy is wearing the S5000VX in a 30

If the translation is right - he's 178 cm tall and weighs about 70kg

Interesting question, chicken - is there an answer ?

[digital_denim]

wait, this is the infamous model with the thunder thighs right?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

^ yup. that's the dude.

[greentea]

speaking of thunder thighs, what happened to ryu?

[Yet Fung]

I definitely think that a tighter jean will produce MORE fading, that's not to necessarily say it will be better. The type of fit will change the whiskering, honeycombs, etc.

I'm still undecided, though. The picture helps somewhat as I have bigger thighs (at least in comparison to my calves). The 28 measurement definitely helps.

[polishmike]

i'm going one size down from my reg 33. i might just do a cold soak. if not it's a week of running 4 miles each day and i'm there

[Guest jeffvyain]

My perfect fender rhodes just came on craigslist, and sadly, i have just barely enough money for it. As much as I love jeans, I love me some music just a bit more. Sadly, I am out.

[BrokenGlass]

Just posted this in the S5000 thread, but might be useful posting here as well, a comparison between size 28 & 29 S5000BK:

All measurements taken raw, 29's first, 28's after:

Waist (circumference): 32 / 30.4

Inseam: 38.5 / 38.5

Outseam: 48 / 48

Front rise: 10.5 / 10.5

Rear rise: 14.1 / 14

Knee: 9.6 / 9

Hem: 8.4 / 8

Interesting that the waist has the biggest difference. I figured the 28 tagged would measure 31 raw. For those thinking of dropping 2 sizes you might not want to now.

This sorta helps, would love to know post soak measurements and how you soaked them etc...I'm still leaning towards sizing down 2 sizes

[HEWSINATOR]

wait, this is the infamous model with the thunder thighs right?

What is this all about?

[beatle]

So - here's Toshikos answer reagrding sizing...

Basically, the size is the same.

But, I think,

The rise of S0500XX is around 1cm(1/3inches) higher.

So, the waist of S0500XX will be a little bit smaller than that of

S5000VX.

So - that's it - maybe it helps - her last words - IT'S DIFFICULT !

So far - we are 20 ppl...