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Serge, thanks a bunch. I might actually wanna go imperials instead now, since some guy i saw at metrotown today was wearing a pair of imperials, iinspired me. The way he wore it was insanely how. I think he somehow oversized it by 1 -2 size(s) bigger, and wore it pretty low. The two back pockets looked huge and showed up pretty nice.

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Anyhow, Im probably gonna go to Downtown sometime this week if i get a chance. Mayb sz29 would fit the best.

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I got a pair of black NS and went down to a 32. 31 was unbearable but hten again I think after stretching it will be fine. Hopefully they won't stretch like rescues which are ridiculous in the end. Black NS don't stretch as much right?

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Do rescues really stretch more? When I got my first pair of rescues the shop owner told me to go down a size more than I would for ns's. I figured they were just bigger to begin with.

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Anyone know if New Cures in size 27 are available

ANYWHERE online? I swear, everyone sold out (including Context, Tobi, Barney's, Denim Bar, and the APC site).

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Anyone know if New Cures in size 27 are available

ANYWHERE online? I swear, everyone sold out (including Context, Tobi, Barney's, Denim Bar, and the APC site).

some guy is selling them in the market, just look around man.

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=47449

I have some brand new cures in a 28 if you want that.

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Jimbo any APC in 29s?

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Jimbo any APC in 29s?

You're asking someone to search around the Supermarket for you when you could just click on the "APC" tag yourself? Fuck you, lazy ass.

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I got a pair of black NS and went down to a 32. 31 was unbearable but hten again I think after stretching it will be fine. Hopefully they won't stretch like rescues which are ridiculous in the end. Black NS don't stretch as much right?

I wouldn't recommend sizing down too much on black NS.

they don't stretch as much as selvage ones

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Hopefully no one will ask about sizing on this page...

-APC New Standard: Normally, people like to size down between 1-3 on these. They are a straighter legged cut, wider leg openings, and a very standard profile - this is not to say that they are not tapered and slimming; they are, but less so than the NC. This has a lot to do with how much you size down on them: the more you size down, the slimmer the leg will be from the knee down. While they can be worn baggy or tight, that is to the wearer's discretion. New Standards are selvage denim, and if you refer to any picture of them, they will tell you so. NS now come in indigo and black raw denim, so you can go either way. The sizing on the black is a tad bit different due to the denim by affected by a different dye, but it should not affect the overall sizing. YES, these jeans do stretch, that is why you size down considerably from what your real waist is. Knee bulge will happen if you get them sized down considerably, but will not ruin your jeans. If you soak them, they will shrink some and assume a form closer to their original shape. Many dispute whether the indigo and raw black have sizing differences - I believe the raw black are a bit tighter due to the nature of the dye, but because they are APC's, the stretching property of the denim remains the same, and you can safetly assume that the jeans will stretch in time to conform to your body.

-APC New Cure: New Cures are very similar to NS, save for the fact that they do not have a visible selvage line and have a tapered leg opening. The silhouette is much slimmer and generally tighter. Most people size down only 1-2 (I sized down 2) on these. But, like other APC jeans, they stretch considerably after a couple weeks of wear. APC NC's have been made in indigo and a prewashed grey denim, and there has been no indication that they will be doing black, as of yet. The different between New Cures and Cures is just that, one is a more recent version of the other. The Cure, generally, has been the women's version of the NC, but APC seems to make jeans on a unisex level, so they can go either way.

-APC Rescue: I personally have not ever owned one of these, but from what I hear they are a fuller, straighter, and more utilitarian cut. Compared to the NS, the thigh is considerably wider, and from the knee down, the cut is very straight and accomodating. I have been told this is the cut for people with wider quads or thighs or even calves because it is cut to fit a fuller individual. It seems that many people size down 1-2 sizes from the tagged to achieve a comfortable look. Dunno if you can go tight with these like NS's or NC's, but if Rescue warer's want to chip in some info, I'll be happy to add it. They have a much wider leg opening, little to no taper across the board. Rescues are selvage with the visible selvage line like NS's.

DO NOT WORRY IF THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY STIFF WHEN YOU GET THEM, THAT IS THE NATURE OF QUALITY RAW/DRY DENIM. THEY WILL SOFTEN UP IN ~30 WEARS (2 WEEKS IF YOU WEAR THEM EVERY DAY). THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE FLIMSY, IT MEANS THEY WILL ADHERE TO YOUR BODY AND BECOME MORE AND MORE COMFORTABLE. APC DENIM IS TOUGH AS NAILS AND THE ONLY REAL WAY TO RIP THEM IS TO DO SPLITS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL THAT IS.

SO, what have we learned:

-NS: size down between 1-3, if you're unsure, go 2 or 1. These are tapered-straight leg, and have a wider leg opening than NC's - selvage

-NC: size down between 1-2, if unsure, just 1. These are a tapered straight leg, and have a slimmer opening below the knee than NS's - selvage (selvage line is not visible due to taper)

-Rescue: size down between 1-2, more if needed. Straight leg, fuller thigh and calf area. Full leg opening, little to no taper - selvage

-APC inseams are usually as such: waist 25-30: 32-34" inseam/ waist 31-36: 34-36" inseam

-Many are confused why you size down from the tagged size with APC's - this is known as vanity sizing. This entails that the jeans are cut usually a size or two bigger than what they are tagged as, and because APC denim is normally raw, that they will stretch considerably from the tagged size. DO not fear sizing down, it is your friend!

-When soaking your APC's, it is generally best to do a 2 hour soak in hot water. I am prone to add ~2 small gobs of Woolite Dark, and when they are finished, rap them in a towel, pat till excess water is out, hang to dry, wear if you want them to stretch a bit.

-When washing your APC's, just wash them as you would any regular pair of jeans, but DO NOT put them in the dryer if you are afraid they might shrink too much. Cotton will always shrink when exposed to heat for extended periods of time.

-If you jeans do shrink a bit, do not fear, you can always just stretch them by hand. One handy method is when they are out of the dryer, get a clamp hanger, bring them somewhere where you have enough space to hold them out horizontally, make sure the clamps on the hanger are tight, and pull. This will stretch it a bit, but the most effective way to get your denim to stretch back out is to wear them dry. This may take a couple of hours, so consider washing your jeans on a weekend when you have nothing to do.

-APC's feel a little baggy? Do this to help them form up a bit more: do the steam shower method for removing the smell, take your time in the shower, and then once you are done, let them hang outside. Cotton naturally shrinks in heat, and the steam will tighten up the fibers and make them contract. Hang them outside and let them sit for a bit. When you put them on later, they will be a tad bit more snug than they were, but they will stretch out. This is not a permanent stretching method, this is just something I do to slim them up in the morning's before I put in a full day of wear.

-Smell Tips: As we all know, raw denim requires us not to wash our jeans for 6 months. Well, some of us sweat more than others (I know I do), so our jeans sometimes become a little riper than we want them too - never fear! Here are a few helpful tips to hold of the stench for a bit.

  • Soak your jeans: Don't be afraid to give your jeans a nice soak, just follow the instructions I outlined before and they should be fine. If anything, they fade faster after a nice good soaking, and they smell less. They'll be a bit less starchy a stiff, but thats always a plus.
  • Fabric Deodorants: Febreeze, bar soap, etc. Don't worry, their not harmful to your jeans. Febreeze is pretty self explanitory. For a quick fix, grab a bar of soap, some paper towel and do as follows. Rub the soap on the paper towel until theres visibly some soap on the towel. Add a bit of water if you want to make it less cake-y. Apply to smelly areas. Let hang for 10-15 minutes while they air out, and you're good to go. If you have other not-harmful-to-fabric deodorants, I'm sure you can utilize them they way you want.
  • Don't be afraid to steam your jeans: Get a clamp hanger, run a hot shower, and bring your jeans in with you. Obviously, try not the get them wet, but sometimes its hard not too, don't worry, it can't hurt. Let the shower steam up, open up the buttons and let the steam get into the jeans as much as possible. This, usually requires a longer shower, so do it on an off day. Let them hang in the shower for a bit after you're done so they can get any exess steam.
  • Hang them outside: Grab a clamp hanger, and hang them overnight outside. Pretty simple.
  • Freezer Method: Fold up the jeans, put a little baking power on smelly areas, and let them sit overnight or for several hours. Should help to remove smell. Can't say if it will save your freezer from the smell though.
  • Just wash the damn things if they smell that bad.[It's not the end of the world.
  • If you get bugs, then thats kinda gross. You should wash them.

NS's, NC's, and Rescue's are all around $140 at most retailers that stock them. If you are unhappy with them once you receive them, do not worry, you can always resell them. There are plenty of people who would take a brand new pair of APC's w/ tags off your hands for close if not the same price as you paid. Also, do yourself a favor and try and go to a store to try them on, its the only real way to be sure of your purchase. NOTE TO RESELLERS/SECONDARY MARKET BUYERS: Ask for measurements... always! You can never be certain of your waist vs. an APC size unless you have proper measurements or are able to try them on! This is a biggie.

Places to Purchase APC Denim:

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threak pruned.

+rep for all those helpful replies to daft questions in here.

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Harvard4 they'll be falling off you in a couple of days. I'm slightly heavier than you and my 30's fit great to start with, but after a couple of wears they were falling off my arse

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Harvard4 they'll be falling off you in a couple of days. I'm slightly heavier than you and my 30's fit great to start with, but after a couple of wears they were falling off my arse

thanks for the info. so we both should have sized 2 - 3 sizes down then...

as long as they retain it's shape through the leg, but i definitely believe you. first time i tried them on - i could not button the top. i'm amazed on how quickly they stretch.

i wish the opening wasn't so tapered..

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thanks for the info. so we both should have sized 2 - 3 sizes down then...

as long as they retain it's shape through the leg, but i definitely believe you. first time i tried them on - i could not button the top. i'm amazed on how quickly they stretch.

i wish the opening wasn't so tapered..

ummm, im pretty sure i said they were tapered. if you're so concerned about it, i'd tell you to get them opened up by a tailor.

but seriously, they're gonna stretch like crazy and they won't feel nearly as tight as you think they are now. the leg's will stretch out a lot.

advice to you: looking for a more standard denim cut? go Samurai.

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APC NS 29-->26, 9 days of all day wear, slept in them 4 or 5 times. They're still a bit constricting in le crotch area and I'm guessing another week til they're perfect!

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nice fit, nice cameltoe, they'll be fine soon.

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ummmm that's just a really weird fold!... (I think) :confused:

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I was in nyc and stopped by the APC store. The new standards apparently have a different tag on waist now, and the top button wasn't the same either. The jeans seemed cheaper in general. Anyone else experience this???

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I have both the older and new versions, and besides the two points you mentioned I find them pretty much the same in quality. I don't mind the different tag inside, but I definitely prefer the older button.

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Yeah the older button is def way better. I felt like they lower weight denim for some reason. i guess they aren't.

yeah new tag is whatever....i was just surprised...they changed them up a bit, and changed the price as well.

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Yeah, that's true. If anything they should have upped the quality.

Of course you're not buying them all the time so it doesn't matter like it would for rent you're paying every single month.

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Nice fit jebeebus

Had these for 5 months already.

New Standards 28 sized down 3. wear 4-5 times a week.

No soaks or washes yet

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Fit pics!!

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Planning to hot wash it sometime next month.

will the knee bulge eventually go down or less noticable after wearing it a lot, or will it always be there?

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I've had my NS for about 3 weeks now, should've have read the threads, i only sized down one size (from 32 to 31) which ended up being my natural waist. at first i really liked it, reminded me of 501s, but then they stretched and stretched. i sit cross legged quite a bit- great for honeycomb and whiskers terrible if you want to avoid baggy knees. for the looser fit i was looking for i think size 30s would have been great. anyways hope this helps and good luck... i am going to try some other brands and see if i can find the fit i'm looking for.

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it will never die. embrace it.

nice fit!

mine went away after my first wash actually :)

been 2 months since then.. still nothin :P

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will the knee bulge eventually go down or less noticable after wearing it a lot, or will it always be there?

Id be more concerned with the cock bulge. You probably should have just sized down 2. Or got cures.

I cant stop staring and your junk.

No homo.

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Ha. i was kind of in a rush to post it up.

Forgot to slouch it.

I tried on a 29 but when i tried it it was easy to button it up and a but loose.

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Even if you sag those they are too small. Are you looking at the same photos Im looking at? Notice how the yoke is completley warped? You need to size up broseidon.

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Mine fit much like Bob's do and I now wish I would have sized up one. I really like the fit everywhere but the waist/crotch area.

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