chinese democracy

[denimdestroyedmylife]

the first seven seconds of the first track sounds okay

couldn't get seven seconds through any other tracks

[FunkyFrenchy]

well i'm listening the album right now (http://fr.myspace.com/gunsnroses)

it's weird to listen to new guns n' roses...

Yet not even comparable to use your illusion II imho.

but still nice to (finally...) discover it.

[azn8oi]

bitchass trixsta. i thought we were talking about the humility of taiwanese politics.

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[enojy]

it's out?

i told myself i'd buy this on day one no matter how bad it inevitably is. i grew up on guns n' roses and the least i can do is shell out ten bucks to that fucken guy.

[cash]

First listen: This isn't that bad.

After listening to a few tracks of Appetite for Destruction: Wow, Appetite is incredible.

Second Listen: Meh.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i was also prepared to cop CD despite any bad reviews as a sign of my devotion to the band but then i went to the GNR myspace page and listened to the tracks

axl just should not do any ballads ever again

[cash]

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/chuck_klosterman_reviews

Here's what Chuck Klosterman said about the album.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

^ugh

i will probably cop on deluxe vinyl wallet-rape edition

[Thorns]

I don't understand the desire to give axle rose any money ever. I just don't get it.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i have an OG APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION tour t-shirt (no i never saw them live)

i rarely wear it (because it makes me look like a meth user, mainly) but it is so soft and the print is in great condition

love the shirt, really...

[jizzimmy]

All I know is that I'm getting a free Dr. Pepper out of this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081024/en_music_eo/65504

[enojy]

All I know is that I'm getting a free Dr. Pepper out of this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081024/en_music_eo/65504

haha oh god, i completely forgot about this. you know what must be done...

"smoke em if you got em!"

*chug dr. pepper, crush can*

"alllllright, that sucked!"

[kiya]

I'm buying this shit the day it comes out.. i don't give a fuck about reviews.

i saw them live about 14 years ago with Metallica at Day on the Green and it blew my mind.. and i saw them about 2 years ago at the Warfield in SF for their "warm up show" to their world tour (which they cancelled after the warm up gig i saw them at) and once again they were spot on live.. granted it wasn't the entire original band..

Two things i don't get though..

1. Amazon.com still lists no release date for the album and no info at all and it's supposed to be out in four days..

2. It's being released on Sunday.. Sunday? WTF? Industry standard has been Tuesdays for over twenty years..

[sidneylo]

A very articulate review of Chinese Democracy by none other than Chuck Klosterman:

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/chuck_klosterman_reviews

Reviewing Chinese Democracy is not like reviewing music. It's more like reviewing a unicorn. Should I primarily be blown away that it exists at all? Am I supposed to compare it to conventional horses? To a rhinoceros? Does its pre-existing mythology impact its actual value, or must it be examined inside a cultural vacuum, as if this creature is no more (or less) special than the remainder of the animal kingdom? I've been thinking about this record for 15 years; during that span, I've thought about this record more than I've thought about China, and maybe as much as I've thought about the principles of democracy. This is a little like when that grizzly bear finally ate Timothy Treadwell: Intellectually, he always knew it was coming. He had to. His very existence was built around that conclusion. But you still can't psychologically prepare for the bear who eats you alive, particularly if the bear wears cornrows.

[onemancult]

I really think what would have been awesome would be if the entire album was a note-for-note cover of Appetite for Destruction with different song titles and lyrics.

[kiya]

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/chuck_klosterman_reviews

Here's what Chuck Klosterman said about the album.

Surprisingly enough, all the high profile music critics are giving the album extremely high ratings.. including Axl's long time arch nemesis Jesse Hughes:

http://gnrdaily.com/news_detail.asp?id=1814

[gramps]

See, this is why I hate Chuck Klosterman. He is more interested in dealing out glib wittcisms than functioning as a real critic. I think the project of creating a literary school of pop-music writing is a ghost that needs to be given up. That review, realistically, would be more effective if it just said: "This band has always been bad, and now they're also totally irrelevent. Obviously, this record is terrible and depressing."

[kiya]

Skip the first paragraph of Chuck's review, he gets into it after his self-indulgent gibberish.

[Leeacto]

I think the album's OK. Not a favorite of the year or anything, though.

Still kind of thrown by that MLK sample in it

[nattomoto]

Kiya

For the time being it is a Best Buy exclusive release.

[kiya]

Kiya

For the time being it is a Best Buy exclusive release.

Are you fucking kidding me?

That is most evil disgusting shit ever...

Edit: I love Best Buy.. but c'mon, a music release being exclusive to ONE store? I know it can't be ONLY Best Buy, iTunes lists it as a new release too but i don't fuck with digital music.

[min2max]

Sorry but no Slash = no Guns n Roses !!

To me this is an Axl Rose solo album markted as gnr to sell copies...

[sidneylo]

Wait, Best Buy exclusive? I'm confused…I thought the goal was to sell records.

[poly800rock]

Sorry but no Slash = no Guns n Roses !!

To me this is an Axl Rose solo album markted as gnr to sell copies...

noone is going to argue that slash isn't a phenomenal musician, but cmon. most of the GNR songs that still kill are AXL songs.

[Thorns]

Wait, Best Buy exclusive? I'm confused…I thought the goal was to sell records.

This is a conclusion built on your assumptions that musicians need more money for drugs alcohol and strippers. Axle Rose died 15 years ago and in his current vampire reincarnation he has no need for any of those things.

[broneck]

See, this is why I hate Chuck Klosterman. He is more interested in dealing out glib wittcisms than functioning as a real critic. I think the project of creating a literary school of pop-music writing is a ghost that needs to be given up. That review, realistically, would be more effective if it just said: "This band has always been bad, and now they're also totally irrelevent. Obviously, this record is terrible and depressing."

i read that, and then read the first sentence of this review. it made me want to punch something, and i'm not a violent person.

also - anyone who has seen what axl rose has looked like for the past 20 years could've anticipated how awful this album was going to be

[kiya]

This is a conclusion built on your assumptions that musicians need more money for drugs alcohol and strippers. Axle Rose died 15 years ago and in his current vampire reincarnation he has no need for any of those things.

I'd like to think this is true.. but a few things lead me to believe otherwise..

1. He lives in Los Angeles still

2. Look at his face

3. I saw him live a couple of years ago and he was not only drinking beer after beer onstage but the way he was running around with the mic-stand i swear to god there would be NO other way to do it without taking an entire ball of meth to the head chased by a bottle of Adderall.

[poly800rock]

this is a reason why kids shouldn't be raised on techno, they're not appreciating rock music!

[kiya]

I would like to point out...

When the last GnR album came out i skipped class during my freshman year of high school with a friend to go buy Use Your Illusion at Tower Records; that was in 1991.

I'm assuming that most people here were far from high school when that album came out...

[nattomoto]

I am sure the exclusivity thing is for a limited time, but here is one source:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2008/10/chinese-democracyem-goes-best-buy-exclusive.html

If you guys want to listen to something worthwhile, grab Scott Weiland's new solo album 'Happy in Golashes', which is out next week and is excellent!