Patrik Ervell F/W 08.09 NY

[goldengloves]

[goldengloves]

[goldengloves]

[goldengloves]

As much as I like Ervell, some of this shit is getting repetitive. The only thing I like about this collection more than the others is the color palette is better, more winter-esque.

[ruach]

Hover shoes??

[rowyerboat]

Pretty much most looks here can be found in past collections.Some of his new stuff is interesting.The gold shit is well ... shit.

He better really step it up for ss09 and perhaps ditch the blazer over air jacket look for good.it gets a bit stale after like 4 collections ?

[mr fluffernutter]

not as exciting as some of his collections... but i kind of like those gold jackets...

[Servo2000]

The gold pieces are fantastic.

I have to say, I don't really mind that much that this is simply an updated version of S/S. I don't necessarily think that the "High Fashion" designers as such should, but as far as these sort of mid-upper level (price and prestige wise) designers go, I appreciate it when they stick to one aesthetic / thematic idea. It makes the composition of a seasonal wardrobe easier / perhaps even a little more interesting. However, this is obviously a little samey.

It certainly doesn't bother me if they don't, but it's an interesting idea.

[whizkit]

Not really familiar with his earlier stuff, but I thought the first 2 gold jackets were quite well done, how the blinginess of the metallic gold is toned down with the khaki palette of the rest of the outfits.

[rowyerboat]

at least if you miss out on something by ervell you know can cop it next season.thats really the only positive of his repeitition.his jackets always good i guess.

I suppose il be positive for a sec : Ervells pretty much one of the only designers whos entire look id wear straight from the catwalk.Pretty much every other designer I just take individual pieces from and apply it to my wardrobe.Too bad his ss08 isnt dropping til March ..

[Servo2000]

I've got to say, I'll be real tempted by this piece when it comes out.

I think by that point in time I'll have my wadrobe filled out enough to afford a flamboyant piece like this one, which seems like it's just outrageous enough without being out of my scale of wearability.

[geekbonchic]

It's totally wearable, Servo. Apparently it took three months to make. Whether or not you buy that is an entirely different matter.

I loved his earlier stuff, when it was fresh. I totally understand your take on the expectations considering this stuff's price point, but I think goldengloves and diamonds are totally right to criticize. There's a difference between having an aesthetic you stick with and an aesthetic that you repeat.

[Advantage]

I Love Patrik Ervell's collections. I just love his aesthetic. Well the designer himself is pretty cool. He's been very consistent but I agree this one isn't as interesting as some of his previous collections. But it's excellent nontheless.

[mike lowrey]

I like the collection, the colours are great and theres something about the whole aesthetic I really like. to be honest I didn't really see it as that repetitive

these were my favorites:

oh lulz his page on men.style is called PERVMEN

[Advantage]

Damn, Was looking at the colelction again, I can't seem to get my mind off how those Trousers look so Mad comfy. I mean, Everything looks mighty comfortable while looking amazing. Good job.

[Guest Pettibon]

Damn, Was looking at the colelction again, I can't seem to get my mind off how those Trousers look so Mad comfy. I mean, Everything looks mighty comfortable while looking amazing. Good job.

i tried on last season's "formal pant" and it wasnt that comfortable at all, actually.maybe these are different. i like ervell but man he's doing the same thing every season. even soulja boy knows you shouldnt do that.

[Joel_l]

maybe he is just redoing the winning formula?? afterall it did get him his much wanted success...

[Guest Pettibon]

maybe he is just redoing the winning formula?? afterall it did get him his much wanted success...

that is what he's doing. i'm saying that's a path to irrelevance.

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

Innovation or lack thereof aside, I'm feeling alot of this.

[larssss]

very much a rehash of spring08, but thats not really a bad thing. great subtle colour story as well.

these are the first gold/metalic jackets i've liked in awhile, looks like some NASA shit

[Servo2000]

that is what he's doing. i'm saying that's a path to irrelevance.

I'm with you here. As much as I like this collection, it is spectacularly repetitive. Which is understandable, in my opinion. It's hard to give up your "bestsellers." I think next season, while he can feel free to keep producing his club collars and whatnot, the runway needs something different. Frankly, as long as the next season is different and good, I probably wouldn't be much bothered again if he chooses to just re-hash for next F/W.

It's totally wearable, Servo. Apparently it took three months to make. Whether or not you buy that is an entirely different matter.

Damn. I imagine in that case it'll be pretty fucking expensive, even if it goes into production.

[mpcec]

I like a lot of this, I understand the comments on repitition and his look getting stale but I'm not dissapointed as this means that I'll be able to get some pieces that are near repeats that I wanted, but couldn't afford before.

[Icarus]

Behind N(n) this is my favorite collection. In terms of aesthetic and wearability this collection trumps anything put by the superfashion favorites, in my opinion. "Innovative" clothing usually looks like fashion trash, unwearable to such an extent that even the ultra-rich and beautiful have no chance at pulling it off.

I don't really buy into the "limited" high-fashion mentality, so if Ervell keeps putting out the same beautifully tailored pants and jackets every season that means that sometime I might be able to pick up the pieces I've always liked. That's incredibly important to me.

That being said, I also think that the line looks stunning and that the movement is really better than everything else this season.

[Guest Pettibon]

Behind N(n) this is my favorite collection. In terms of aesthetic and wearability this collection trumps anything put by the superfashion favorites, in my opinion. "Innovative" clothing usually looks like fashion trash, unwearable to such an extent that even the ultra-rich and beautiful have no chance at pulling it off.

I don't really buy into the "limited" high-fashion mentality, so if Ervell keeps putting out the same beautifully tailored pants and jackets every season that means that sometime I might be able to pick up the pieces I've always liked. That's incredibly important to me.

That being said, I also think that the line looks stunning and that the movement is really better than everything else this season.

i dont understand what you're saying. i hope you know the inseams on the pants are generally short.

[Morningstar]

This jacket is a must own for Fall

[Servo2000]

I don't really buy into the "limited" high-fashion mentality, so if Ervell keeps putting out the same beautifully tailored pants and jackets every season that means that sometime I might be able to pick up the pieces I've always liked. That's incredibly important to me.

This is something I've been thinking about recently and that I see more than applicable to a designer like Ervell, largely inspired by this quote from Aitor Throup:

...We as consumers are not allowed to buy things when we want or even when the designer wants, which runs contradictory to the essence of creativity. While fashion cycles may give structure and boundaries that creative people think they need, designers can become self-absorbed and indulgent...

... fashion would allow itself to show a product whenever it's ready, not in predetermined cycles. Now more than ever, people like to layer rather than having a winter wardrobe and a summer wardrobe. That's such an old-fashioned system.

Imagine if the music industry did it that way. Imagine if they released all their new music every six months. You'd have to listen to the new albums all at once and, worst of all, once an album comes out, you're only allowed to buy it for six months. After that you have to buy the new album, which would probably be shit because they only had six months to come up with a concept, develop it, record it, do the artwork, etc. My collections operate a lot differently.

I don't want these pieces to go away. I want to be able to buy the pieces I like, when I like, and I like these pieces. It's essentially what Ervell is. I think the gold pieces are more than sufficient, along with some minor color changes, to provide some seasonal interest and inspiration, but I don't want or need a whole new set of jackets since I only buy maybe one a season anyway.

I'm not sure that this is the manner to begin escaping from the season-to-season grind (super restrictive collections that re-iterate essentially identical pieces) but I think it's an example of how, in a commercial sense, most people are not bothered by being given the opportunity to buy the same thing again. If they liked it so much in the first place, why do they need something new to replace it? Why not buy what you wanted last season if you didn't have the opportunity?

I do not necessarily applies to every designer, either. Comme Des Garcons, for instance, probably would not flourish in that sort of "archival" format considering how different every season is (although that might explain why it's been so shit for so long now).

I'm typing as I'm thinking so this is more to spark discussion than my end-all opinion on the matter, more to induce discussion.

[rowyerboat]

maybe for fw08 some store will actually buy his parachute jacket.still aint heard of any ss08 buys including the nice white one so if repitition means il eventually own it then its not sooo bad.

[lucky_cloud]

to servo and icarus, hear hear.

what i'd really like to know, though, is what the shoes are.

[ahk1979]

to servo and icarus, hear hear.

what i'd really like to know, though, is what the shoes are.

they look like opening ceremony to me. which means they also look like b-store shoes, becasuse thats who makes them for OC.

[onemancult]

i saw this in person. it moves in ways you cant understand. favorite collection so far.