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[darlin cora]

50 should stop trying to hustle BET and get his shit on vh1 and needs to start beef with ja rule again. at least that was funny.

YOU SAYS YOUS A WANKSTA.

[NESK]

Not Trying to get in the middle of any thing but...

Nesk: I agree with most of what you said but to me it doesn't seem like 50 is actually "playing a character". I mean he is to a certain extent because of his references to violence and what not that he wouldn't actually do, it just sells records. But as far as I Get Money being a look at the decay of society in monetary terms I don't think it's that deep. It really just boils down to he just wants money, no acting, no moral reflection, he just wants money and his thoughts when making that song didn't get much further than that.

whether or not he is playing the character or just assuming a character that is relative to his lifestyle, everythign he does is representational. he is a cultural icon and his persona is removed from real life due to his exposure. i doubt any real thugs are as self obsessed as 50, unless they are but in imitation of 50. and i doubt he intended to represent the decay of society with i get money, he probly just wanted to brag about how much money he get. but as a peice of art/entertainment, we are granted the priveldge of applying cultural significance to shit, even if it aint what the creator intended. this practice makes it easier to engage manufactured media as intellectual matter.

Okay well you definitely gave me some perspective there.. and now I completely agree that they have two different styles and I shouldn't have compared one from the other, and that that's how they are and brought up to be. But damn, how many times are you going to rub shit in people's faces, isn't fame and fortune already enough.? In the popular scene, it's the "Cool" thing to do but I don't see how you can live with yourself knowing that you are creating this giant monster of envy and want. Those dudes are so successful they don't even realize it. I dunno.. I hate getting into debates because nothing ever gets accomplished. It's usually about two dudes trying to win the argument (especially on forums).

i dont want to aruge about it either, im just offering you the other side of the story because i dont like how popular rap music gets the brush off from as 'simple' or 'lazy'. and as far as the 'cool' thing goes, 50s boasting is reactionary. he (according to his press "bio") came from nothing and had the odds staked against him his whole life. now that its time to shine, dont he deserve to throw his sucess in the face of everyone who told him he would never be anything? thats how i feel about the ballin ass gangsta at least.

[Blackplatano]

Ya could say anything you want but...

50 cent is a GENIUS...

And i'm not talking about the mic.

[NESK]

i wholeheartedly agree

[un-]

1 Kanye West Roc-a-fella/idjmg 930,251 --

Graduation

-- 2 50 Cent Aftermath/interscope 659,682 --

Curtis

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com

I know the first question some people will ask after seeing this is, "Are those worldwide numbers?"

No, hitsdailydouble & billboard just covers the U.S. I believe...

[Head Ninja In Charge]

1. Those are ridiculous numbers. Both waaaaay exceeded what I thought an rap album could move in 2007.

2. The remix to "I Get Money" will stay on repeat forever.

[plane trip to mars]

50 Cent is bullying the industry. Yes, he's a genius.

[homme.homme]

whoever wins this it is just a huge marketing boost for both of these dudes. A lot of people who are on the fence about buying either of the albums will be more inclined to actually buy now hoping to sway numbers for their favoured artist - in reality both win.

[Raskol]

imma illegally download both them albums tonight

(but i'll prolly listen to 50's first)

[NESK]

you sir are whats wrong with this generation. and i like it.

[jl3969]

'Pounds 50 Cent In First Week Of Album Showdown

'Ye moves a reported 957,000 copies of his Graduation, while Fif pushes 691,000 units of his Curtis LP.'

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1570001/20070918/west_kanye.jhtml

[mike lowrey]

god damn, pretty close to a mil.

the fact that real music thats made with love for the art and no gimmicks tops the chart is very dope to me.

[ouss]

fifty lost!

[ouss]

and lol at diddy on the billion dollar remix

even me who is french it was audible that his verse was bullshit

jeezy is on point

[un-]

At the end of the day, Universal wins (owns both Def Jam & Interscope).

[mizanation]

lyor cohen ftw!

*nevermind* lyor is at warner now.

[ouss]

of course i read somewhere nahright i think that the real billion dollar remix would feature jimmy iovine, lyor cohen, and edgar bronfman (whatever) jr.

[wEstSidE]

is the line i get money, money is god? or money is got?

[ouss]

money is god

[ouss]

lyor cohen ftw!

*nevermind* lyor is at warner now.

haha miz it's all about hire & fire!

[NESK]

is the line i get money, money is god? or money is got?

its money i got. the sample if lifted from audio two's top billin.

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

god damn, pretty close to a mil.

the fact that real music thats made with love for the art and no gimmicks tops the chart is very dope to me.

And you thought we would just let that slide by unnoticed....Uh UH!!!!

Not on my watch.

No Gimmicks?!?!?!?

KANYE WEST????!!!!

NO GIMMICKS!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!?!

Hi Mike.

Just playin'

[eplsoccer7]

At the end of the day, Universal wins (owns both Def Jam & Interscope).

Repped, at the end of the day, the conglomerates always win

[Head Ninja In Charge]

is the line i get money, money is god? or money is got?

Step your old school game up.

[un-]

[mike lowrey]

NO GIMMICKS!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!?!

in the music itself, no

[ouss]

aint that from the cam video clip?

[un-]

aint that from the cam video clip?

Yeah, it is...that was the funniest part of the video.

[ouss]

naaaaaaa man

the funniest part is (if i remember well) when they sing gospel around a fire shit is hilarious

[un-]

naaaaaaa man

the funniest part is (if i remember well) when they sing gospel around a fire shit is hilarious

I'm sorry, the way dude says it is just the best part to me. But I do agree that the do-wop singing around the fire was hilarity.

Also- to beat a dead horse, Kanye outsold 50 his second week in the U.S. as well.