Samurai S5000 owners

[denimdestroyedmylife]

well, i have been on a black denim quest for a while------i wanted button fly, black stitching, unsanforized and selvage; all those things coexist peacefully in the S5KBK.

[john11f]

well, i have been on a black denim quest for a while------i wanted button fly, black stitching, unsanforized and selvage; all those things coexist peacefully in the S5KBK.

something tells me this spells trouble (for my wallet)....XCRX is going to be busy...

[horriblyjollyjinx]

well, i have been on a black denim quest for a while------i wanted button fly, black stitching, unsanforized and selvage; all those things coexist peacefully in the S5KBK.

me too.. kind of sad that I won't get the Ironheart or Fullcount overdyes now, I want them all!

btw john, you can order directly from samurai, without a middleman.

[john11f]

how do i go about it? i've registered in their site but the text of their newsletter is still in japanese. google translate doesn't even work on them.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

¨just click the s5000bks on their site, and on the next page find the link and click it and enter zerokuro in that box.

[john11f]

successfully done this? i'm quite interested to get these black denim. help!

what would you guys think if i try to wash them as often as possible (not caring about contrasts) so as to lighten the denim (170z is heavy for me)?

[PG2G]

Isn't one of the main benefits of this jean the fact that it gets contrasty and breaks in like a regular indigo jean? If you aren't after that, why bother?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

John, I've spelled it out earlier in the post, here's a PM i sent to another superdude regarding this matter:

go to www.samurai-j.com, skip the movie and click the picture of the S5000bk, scroll down and hit the only button there and you will be prompted for the password: ZEROKURO

then fill out the form;

here's a cheat sheet on the jap part------starting from below the two "Email" boxes:

postal code

address

telephone

size

something that doesn't matter (some kind of payment options)

card type

card number

exp date

comments box

when you are done, there will be a confirmation button, if you don't get the confirm button, you did something wrong.

the trick here is to translate the bottom message, it should either say confirm, or it will tell you the order can't be placed.

when all else fails, email TOSHIKO at [email protected]

[red]

wow. its like a video game cheat. whats the big-headed cheat for avatars?

[john11f]

PG2G, I value your opinion. understood. just so many raw denim to break-in. not a single black pair though...

[old viking ring]

I have successfully ordered mine. I got an email yesterday from Toshiko and then another because I ordered twice, thinking the first order didn't go through. If you follow DDML's example, your jeans will be ordered and you will probably get an email from Toshiko, since you are outside of Japan.

Glen

[denimdestroyedmylife]

wow. its like a video game cheat. whats the big-headed cheat for avatars?

UP/DOWN/UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT/LEFT/RIGHT/SELECT/START

[Roland]

Its looking like Superfuture will hold at least 10% of the worldwide stock. Not too shabby ...

[horriblyjollyjinx]

successfully done this? i'm quite interested to get these black denim. help!

what would you guys think if i try to wash them as often as possible (not caring about contrasts) so as to lighten the denim (170z is heavy for me)?

no, they wont get lighter. if you want light and black you should get Fullcounts, they're 13.76oz. The 1474 is indigo with sulphur overdye and the 1310 is just sulphur-dyed. These are the same cut as the 1108 but you can get the same denim in other cuts.

Btw Roland, you don't have a pair for 5000's? I remember you have Samurai's but not which ones.

[john11f]

who else is going for or has ordered the s5000bk?any indication how much shipping would be?

does toshiko speak english and will they undervalue the shipment?

[horriblyjollyjinx]

who else is going for or has ordered the s5000bk?any indication how much shipping would be?

does toshiko speak english and will they undervalue the shipment?

the shipping was 4600 for me last time, a bit steep, but it's because they sent it in a really big box.

she speaks English and she'll write down the value if you ask her too, and probably even if you don't.

[john11f]

do let me know when you get them. i think i successfully ordered. i tried keyeing in the needed info and there was no error when i submitted it.

how many pairs made for this one?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i think i love her

[john11f]

i think i love her

you mean you love the jeans and you got them?

or you love toshiko?

[horriblyjollyjinx]

do let me know when you get them. i think i successfully ordered. i tried keyeing in the needed info and there was no error when i submitted it.

how many pairs made for this one?

they will be sent out around the 10th of August, because they haven' t produced them yet.

if you have questions, email toshiko, info@... she is very helpful!

I also love Toshiko. Someone ask for her picture!

[john11f]

i noticed in the email from tochiko that blue in green of new york is cc'ed. does this mean it will be coming from nyc and not osaka?

[red]

i love japanese girls. they all look the same. which means they all look good. and i assure you that there will be only one woman over 120 pounds within a one mile radius in japan. and that woman will probably be an american tourist.

[john11f]

should i size down on samurais?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i am in no position to give advice on this, but i'd rather err on the side of caution----meaning being able to button up.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

visit bears and see how their model sized them compared to other brands and cuts. they shrink to tag size but you need to know the rise also. I think these would be mid-rise.

[Roland]

Btw Roland, you don't have a pair for 5000's? I remember you have Samurai's but not which ones.

I had some of the VX fabric on a pair of SO110VXJs, and I ended up selling them to a friend.

I've actually wanted the S3000vx or the S5000vx for a while since the fit is little more relaxed then my SO110xj's. I really like the 3000s painted backpocket plus I think the denim used to be lighter then the 5000s, but I may be mistaken.

[greentea]

should i size down on samurais?

definatley if youre getting the VX or the 5000xx size down, once or twice. and let your waist "STF" stretch to fit. so then you can control if you need to cold soak or not. i like to wear it straight raw. i dont want to soak it unless i have to. straihgt raw,imma give it to ya,with no trivia, like cocaine straight from bolivia - ODB.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

definatley if youre getting the VX or the 5000xx size down, once or twice. and let your waist "STF" stretch to fit. so then you can control if you need to cold soak or not. i like to wear it straight raw. i dont want to soak it unless i have to. straihgt raw,imma give it to ya,with no trivia, like cocaine straight from bolivia - ODB.

I remember you sold your 5000's because they were too big. How much would you size down from the 103's to get the same fit, 1 or 2 sizes?

[old viking ring]

should i size down on samurais?

on these I think you should size down 2 sizes. The shrinkage variation on the chart for each inch size is 4cm. My S011XJ variation is about 2.5 cm.

I am 32 at the hips and I have a 31 in the XJ's and they are slightly loose after a hot wash and machine dry to get them to shrink to their final size. I ordered a 30 in the BK's

[greentea]

I remember you sold your 5000's because they were too big. How much would you size down from the 103's to get the same fit, 1 or 2 sizes?

yeah i was the guinea pig for the VX experiment =) hehe.after learning about "samurais" uneveness 5th thread weave liek on the VX and 5000xx and how it operates.definately size down 1 or 2.

For the 103s its different cause the fabric is this super tough weave and rigid like sheet rock,so chances are you are going to cold soak it. i ordered my size,after cold soak it and shrunk 2 sizes. though it took me lot longer to stretch out compared to other dry denims. it stretched to a nice fit. so i say get your size iand just put extra labor with the stretching like i did or size up and have a slightly easier time to stretch.

the cold soak will shrink in all approtiate areas too. like the back,lenght,hem. its pretty necessary. i dare anybody to wear these straight raw,you will cut your self.lol

after like a warm wash or something, the lengh will shrink 3 inches. all other areas will be like 1/2 inch.