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wow that discount is really tempting me to get those R400s! anyone have info about shrinkage and stretching on the 21oz denim (in particular the thighs)?

The shrinkage of the waist is at 1", thigh 0.5 through out and length of max 2" The stretches depends on the tension you are putting in the wear actually, and it does stretch to a comfort.

^ i dont think it will stretch much. The only thing keeping me from getting the R400s is the super slim thighs.

The thigh part is trim to slim as it will produce more contrast fade, if you are afraid of the stretch limitation, can consider the 17oz R400.

According to Tuckshop's measurements all the RedCloud jeans are pretty much the same cut?? Do they have any tapered cuts? The R400 and R424 are pretty much your standard skinny fit...tight thigh and pretty much straight down from there.

the R424 is slim straight, R400 and R400s is tapered down.

Hope the above info helps :)

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hey tuckshop, love those wabash pants, any chance of them being produced larger than 32 (i.e. 36w) ??

Sorry for the late reply. We were checking with Raymon for this.

Tuckshop will re-stock them. But I do not have the actual arrival date yet, please check our website for updates.

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does someone have their store address in Shenyang or contact number? Was thinking to approach them directly as I am currently in China. Tried to 'google' them to see whether they have retail stores in other cities but got nothing other than that taobao page. Any help would be appreciated.

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Hey Guys

Last summer I had a chance to go up to Shenyang and visit Raymond and his factory. I emailed him and told him I was coming and asked if I'd be able to see some jeans being made. When we got there the factory was empty - all the workers had the day off. Raymond surprised me by pulling out the denim and making a one pair from scratch while I watched. It was an awesome experience, he talked away the whole time and all the details and ins and outs of the process, and I took literally hundreds of photos... at the end he gave the pair he made to me for free! I was pretty stoked!

I've been pretty busy since then finishing a thesis for university, but thats wrapped up now and I've got some time to revisit all those photos. I thought I'd post some up here so you can follow along. There are about 800 photos for me to go through, chuck the useless ones and resize and stuff so it's going to take a while, but I'll make a start now.

He starts off by laying the pattern down on the denim and tracing around it

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The wooden block holds he pattern down, but Ray says it doesnt need to be super accurate because the accuracy comes in the stitching not the cutting.

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This is the leg, and the two holes on the pattern are for marking where the back pocket joins.

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He uses this white pencil to draw the pattern on

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And this is something which was translated as 'soap', but to me seemed to be a kind of wax. He uses the pencil on the edges, but where he needs to mark on places that will be visible on the finished product he uses this stuff because it comes off easier. I guess the penciled edges are going to be cut along so those markings wont be seen.

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A clearer shot of using the 'soap'

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Thou shalt not waste denim

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Boo ya

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And again...

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The triangles at the top of this shot will make the waist band:

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Red Cloud R424XX 32"

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Gregornz thanks for sharing. I met ray while he was here for an event weeks back. He was generously giving away door gifts and explaining how the jeans were made.

Unfortunately there wasnt a live demo since we are not over at his factory/workshop. I can understand how interesting it'll be and would have taken many photos too! Congrats on your new pair! Keep the updates coming.

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Gregonz, Nice pics! Some fit pics of the pair?

I left one day earlier, Raymon wanted me to extend another day to meet you in person, but schedule was tight.

I did witness his work during 2011 winter launch, he made 2 pair on the spot for a friend in Guangzhou, was pretty impressive with the freehand stitching of the R425 wukong arc.

Mr Black, we miss out this batch of stocks, only 20 were made for their counterparts in China, was too late to order them. But we are checking for his 2nd batch.

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I was just wondering what models of the Red Clouds come with Twisted Yarn?

I know the 17oz r400 use it and the s423 I think. I was looking at the 21oz r400 but they use the regular yarns. The twist seems to give the jeans nicer slub and I was wondering why more models don't use it. Definately something that makes Red Clouds stand out.

I have the r400s and they are very unique compared to other wefts. I've gotten many compliments on them LOL.

For people who don't know what I'm taking about. (Taken from TSS blog)

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