Jeans of the Old West: A History

[Sansome1877]

[entertainment!]

Is "Deadgrass Overalls" your trademark, Mike?

[Sansome1877]

Yes, that is the name of our company...it is derived from the color of duck pants in the early days. Thanks for asking.

[Sansome1877]

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Thick wool under pants, that were worn under a pair of waist overalls. 1870's

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Miners had many uses for pant legs, this was one of them. The piece of pant leg would be folded two or three times and a hole was put in the center. The candle was put through and you would hold the candle under the piece of denim.

[aho]

Very enlightening! I don't have anything to add other than support for more posts and gold nuggets of info (pun somewhat intended)!

[Joseph Hill]

Well, there's your hook for LVC (er.. XX) Fall/Winter 2011. "Romance in the old West". Bisquits beans and gravy by candlelight. When your sweetie is sufficiently glamoured by the light from your Cone selvage candleholders ($89.95, pre-distressed 219.95), kick over the bench, and it's down to the wooly skivvies, yee Haw!

...Actually, that sounds kinda good. Wonder if I can get the GF on board.

[Sansome1877]

Well, there's your hook for LVC (er.. XX) Fall/Winter 2011. "Romance in the old West". Bisquits beans and gravy by candlelight. When your sweetie is sufficiently glamoured by the light from your Cone selvage candleholders ($89.95, pre-distressed 219.95), kick over the bench, and it's down to the wooly skivvies, yee Haw!

...Actually, that sounds kinda good. Wonder if I can get the GF on board.

I'll take one in duck ( pre-distressed)

[thelion1856]

wow i ordered this book on amazon when i opened this thread. This thread is like denim porn centerfold shit. cant wait for this book to arrive fap fap fap!

it took me a good part of this entire day to read every post in this thread from page one. i finally got to the last page and was able to type this out just now.

[Sansome1877]

wow i ordered this book on amazon when i opened this thread. This thread is like denim porn centerfold shit. cant wait for this book to arrive fap fap fap!

it took me a good part of this entire day to read every post in this thread from page one. i finally got to the last page and was able to type this out just now.

working on the 1873 levi porn for next week...........

[rnrswitch]

Hmmmm. Can't wait.

[YoungPunch]

like PaulT and others have said, over the years I've admired warehouse and other historical jeans reproducers for their authenticity and dedication to producing old and rare garment styles. Its just awesome to read posts/ a book from some of the guys who are actually digging up the real artifacts and selling them to the japanese companies doing the repros. So cool!

[Sansome1877]

I think this is white duck, dates before 1892.

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[Rob]

Well my copy has just arrived and I cannot wait to really take time out to read it thoroughly. It looks nothing short of superb.

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Not a pair of jeans, but the men who wore the work wear, smoked from these pipes in the 1870's. I might have to get the one in good condition working again. The first two pictures are part of a eagle claw pipe.

[attackwithstones]

What are those brown boots in the white duck pictures? I love the wedge soles.

Thanks for any info.

Drew

[Sansome1877]

Those are my $6 thrift store specials, shoes not boots. They have the Good Year tire symbol on the soles.

[Joseph Hill]

That desert picture reminds me of my one mine adventure. Just off the Pony Express trail (I think we were still in Utah, we saw a lot of states in a few days) there was an abandoned barium mine. We stopped off at a house that looked haunted, but a guy lived there, and was he glad to have some company! He proudly showed us around his two story 'mansion' with no paint, no carpets, no TV, no books, and cob-web looking tatters of drapes fluttering in broken window. I counted two wood chairs and a table as the exclusive furniture. He did have about forty one-gallon food service style cans of beans stacked in the kitchen, and a similar stack of cans of coffee. We drove on to the mine (the turn off was at his front gate) which was situated on a ridge that looked just like that picture. Near the top of the windy goat trail that my buddies Saturn only barely navigated was a full-sized Bluebird schoolbus backed in at a rather awkward turnoff, and buried to the windows. Why they put it there, how they got it up there, and similar questions regarding the semi-burial will probably never be known. Top the night off with a lunar eclipse, and it made for a strange vibe to try to sleep with. Alas no old jeans.

[Sansome1877]

Strange vibes and desert seem to go together, sounds like a interesting fellow you met. I usually try to stay away from human contact while I'm out on a trip, but by doing so, I miss all of those interesting people, out in the middle of nothing. This picture was taken in California, a lot of places look the same. My father in law and I took a trip a few years back, we drove over 1,800 miles in three days. I came back with cloud pictures ( no duck or denim) My wife blew her stack (you drove 1,800 miles and brought back fucking cloud pictures!!!!!) I hesitate now when I see a picturesque cloud formation, but not enough to keep me from taking the shot.

[entertainment!]

Strange vibes and desert seem to go together, sounds like a interesting fellow you met. I usually try to stay away from human contact while I'm out on a trip, but by doing so, I miss all of those interesting people, out in the middle of nothing. This picture was taken in California, a lot of places look the same. My father in law and I took a trip a few years back, we drove over 1,800 miles in three days. I came back with cloud pictures ( no duck or denim) My wife blew her stack (you drove 1,800 miles and brought back fucking cloud pictures!!!!!) I hesitate now when I see a picturesque cloud formation, but not enough to keep me from taking the shot.

Show her some John Constable cloud studies, then she'll understand.

[Sansome1877]

Well I have to confess, I said I was going to do one thing and I ended up doing another ( did I mention I took her car) I'll show her the cloud study.

[Sansome1877]

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I wonder if this will ever come into fashion? Both cuffs on a Greenebaum

jacket are wired, after the buttons fell off?

[Sansome1877]

I would suggest one thing while traveling in the high desert in the summer time(wear amber sunglasses) I don't want to turn this into the desert cloud thread but I thought this was a nice photo.

[roy6]

Mike, it looks like you've mastered image posting. Good job!

Don't know if I mentioned, I am greatly enjoying the book. I especially like the button, label & cloth montages on pgs 1788-79. Really lovely.

[Sansome1877]

rnrswitch in his duck, Roy denim pants and his Mr. Freedom vest. It was (105 *F)

[Sansome1877]

Glad you are enjoying the book, I didn't get a chance to tell you that your Hawaii photos were really nice (i've never been to Hawaii).

[roy6]

^^ Damn! Two fine-looking gentleman.

Rnr, your denim (& duck) dedication in not to be questioned.

What'd you guys find?

[Sansome1877]

Looks like a denim belt (a long piece of thin denim tied together to look like a belt?) Found two denim candle holders or wax guards, I don't know what to call them yet? Rnrswitch is going to post the items this week along with some other photos he took.