Vintage Denim?

[aho]

Hey guys, check out my 1922 Eternal/Samurai's...

I got combs for days son

Check out the full pair here:

http://www.marvins-jp.com/whatsnew/dp-1070-%28826%29/dp-1070.html

And another blue beauty:

http://www.marvins-jp.com/denimpants/dp-565/dp565.html

[bluegoldblues]

Just found these Big E 505's today in a local vintage shop really chuffed with the 34 inch waist on them BUT one problem,

PAINT!

Any ideas how this can be removed? or should they just be rocked as they are?

Opinions please!

[lysandar]

Looks pretty good as-is, I vote rock em for what they are!

[Paul T]

Well, depends on whether it's emulsion or oil paint.

Oil paint won't move, emulsion can be scrubbed off with washing up liquid and/or brush cleaner, and elbow grease, but you will get pale patches. It's worth trying it on one spot, to see how it looks, but you'll still have marks there.

[Happy Hooligan]

I don't think you can remove paint from jeans that's been on them forever...

Either paint them totally white or just wear them as is.

Or sell them and buy a pair that's not painted.

[Maynard Friedman]

Paint over them with a giant Evisu-style daicock.

[tropicalbird]

Paint thinner might work, but how do you get rid of the thinner itself?

[bluegoldblues]

Yeah, I think I will give them a luke-warm hand wash anyway and see how I get on, they fit like a glove and still look really cool so its all good!

Thanks guys! will keep y'all up to date on the paint-fades lol

[Paul T]

Paint thinner might work, but how do you get rid of the thinner itself?

Paint thinner lifts out the indigo; I've used it to get spills off my work Lees, when the oil paint is fresh, and even then it leaves a mark. It won't do much for dried paint, any kind.

I've a feeling Simple Green, an American special cleaner, will lift dried emulsion; methylated spirits might do it, too. Both will require less abrasion then Fairly Liquid (which will require much soaking), but whatever happens you will get more mottling.

If I were to try it, i'd try and lift those lighter streaks, which come off easier and look ugly, and probably leave the spots, which will be harder to move and anyway look pretty cool.

[Rivet Head]

Leave them as is BGB!

[killer b]

yeah, they look great already. you'd pay an extra hundred quid or so from LVC for that kind of distressing...

[robbie]

Leave them as is BGB!

this & wabi-sabi. They look great how they are, why try to alter/change them.

[Stratos]

You could try putting high tack tape on the paint stains, rubb, leave on for 10 minutes or so and then rip off, Chances are you will take most of the paint off.

Then again, they do look nice enough with the stains...I'd leave 'm on ^^

[telluride11]

you can remove the paint by mailing it to me. jeans must be attached for it to work

[devilish]

Saw these at my favorite vintage store. Any help in figuring out what year they are from would be much appreciated. Any chance they are fakes?

No tag left and no code on the back of the top button, at least not that was legible, just two small nicks. Stitching on yolk and across the top of waistband was rusty orange and on the pockets, arcs and lower waistband was lemon. They were in amazing condition, looked to have only been very lightly worn, no whiskers or combs of any kind.

[Paul T]

Quick look: Definitely not fakes.From those fly buttons, pretty certain to be original, not LVC. Did they have covered back pocket rivets? If so, probably early 60s, if not, maybe 67 or 68.

Buy em if they're a good price, then take more shots!

[bluegoldblues]

wow nice, from the pics they look legit! V-stitch, waist band has chain stitching on bottom the copper rivets tell me they could have hidden rivets in the back pockets? did you even mention they were big E?

Do we dare ask how much they are?

[wywh]

Nice dark denim....this jeans look more like late 40s or early 50s to me, probably previously with leather patch. My eyes might be wrong but I'll buy it for any sensible asking price.

[Paul T]

It will be easy to see once devilish posts photos of the internal rivets, pre and post 54 look pretty different. The missing tab is actually a good thing, means their age is less obvious to browsers. Whichever way, nice jeans, I hope to see them again.

[devilish]

Ok, so they did have hidden rivets on the back pockets but I don't have photos of them. They were 'E' and the red tab was single sided. These folks know that they are worth more money than I have to spend and have them priced 'not to sell'.

Crazy thing is though they found these and what looks to be an original 506 in regular old thrift stores here in California and probably paid less than $20 each for them.

I'll see if I can get them to send me a pick of the inside and out of pocket rivets. They are really nice folks and want to know as much about them as possible. A true value (or as close as possible) would also be nice.

Thanks guys.

[Paul T]

Early 50s, late 40s with good colour - maybe $4k, depends on the size as well as condition.

[Dr_Heech]

Early 50s, late 40s with good colour - maybe $4k, depends on the size as well as condition.

Spot on analysis as usual Paul, and if they're a 34-36 waist/32+ leg then you could put another 2k on top.

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[wywh]

Spot on analysis as usual Paul, and if they're a 34-36 waist/32+ leg then you could put another 2k on top.

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I lost respect, that's all I can say!

[Paul T]

I lost respect, that's all I can say!

Why personalise it? Maybe you could contribute your thoughts rather than criticising others?

Used value are what the market will bear; I've seen comparable jeans go for $2k to recently, IIRC, $4,500. I've found odd slumps i the market recently as buyers change, but I wouldn't be surprised if a pair in a good size fetches more - atho I'd have thought a 32 measured waist would fetch better $$$ than the typical big waist, small leg that's common in older vintage.

[devilish]

I lost respect, that's all I can say!

Huh! Why would you say that? Seems like trying to pick an e-beef for no real reason.

[Rivet Head]

Probably pissed because he thinks you are a rube and could get the jeans off you for cheap? Who knows....

[robbie]

Nice dark denim....this jeans look more like late 40s or early 50s to me, probably previously with leather patch. My eyes might be wrong but I'll buy it for any sensible asking price.

I lost respect, that's all I can say!

dude, don't be butt hurt cause you can't drop 2k.

[devilish]

Ok, here's the picture of the inside of the pocket rivets. Pretty rounded edges.

[robbie]

so awesome dude^ so nice to get to see stuff like that.

Found this deadstock Big Smith pleated jacket sz 44 today. I am trying to place it, the collar seems big, but the pleating makes me think 60's, anyone care to shed any light? (forgive the instagram photos... out of town and forgot my slr.)

it has a union made label in both the right and left hand pockets.

Thanks for any info/evaluations guys.

[wywh]

Why personalise it? Maybe you could contribute your thoughts rather than criticising others?

Used value are what the market will bear; I've seen comparable jeans go for $2k to recently, IIRC, $4,500. I've found odd slumps i the market recently as buyers change, but I wouldn't be surprised if a pair in a good size fetches more - atho I'd have thought a 32 measured waist would fetch better $$$ than the typical big waist, small leg that's common in older vintage.

No Paul/Dr_Heech, I'm not talking about the potential price - that can be very subjective.

But I'm expecting, with your caliber, most of you should immediately spots the jeans are genuine and not from 60s era, even without knowing there are hidden rivets - just based on those pics.