supermeatheads

[fndmybetterhalf]

169.4lbs today

started doing cardio as well.

hoping to lose these last pounds of pure fat, maintain, then clean bulk for the rest of my lfie.

very nice. i used to be against doing cardio (mostly cuz i hated doing them) but theyre extremly beneficial when you're cutting. plus, do your cardio a few times a week and you can eat a bit more of whatever you want

my cutting isnt going as well as i wanted. def losing mass quick, i think i might take on a month of creatine and and hit a high calory diet for the next month and try to clean bulk a good 5-10 lbs before i do another cut.

[thorough]

yeah Id rather be anal on my diet than spending the time doing cardio. If anything i would rather do HIIT. It just seems more effective to me personally. does anyone else hit thier abs 3 times a week? that just seems like overtraining to me.

[playdisonlyatnight]

i hit abs twice a week, about 9-10 sets each time

i think with abs most people can afford to do them almost every workout, im just too lazy

[Mr Calvin Oscar]

abs three times a week.

you can still see them through my immense amount of fat accumulating on my belly with my seefood diet

i like working out my abs :-?

how long do you guys usually cut for before trying to maintain a stable weight?

[mrchariybrown]

I don't know.. I don't really see the need for such excessive ab workouts. they're just like any other muscle, right?

I workout my abs about once or twice a week for 3-4 sets each time

[fndmybetterhalf]

yeah Id rather be anal on my diet than spending the time doing cardio. If anything i would rather do HIIT. It just seems more effective to me personally. does anyone else hit thier abs 3 times a week? that just seems like overtraining to me.

you cant really overtrain your abs cuz youre not doing heavy weights and doing like 15 sets with it.

train your abs atleast 3 times a week for like 10 minutes per work out and do like 5-8 sets of ab excercises.

this might be a bad example but Ryan Reynolds started each of his workouts daily with 500 crunches and various ab workouts and his abs are damn near perfection.

Untrained abs look ridiculous in my opinion. Its like seeing a guy who buff arms and no chest, of course he'll argue that he loosk good cuz he has definition when in reality, he has low bf, and no muscle mass. it applies to abs as well.

[thorough]

I don't know.. I don't really see the need for such excessive ab workouts. they're just like any other muscle, right?

I workout my abs about once or twice a week for 3-4 sets each time

.

i remembered reading that its a common for people to overtrain abs although they have a quick recovery time. i also recall that they respond well to lower reps and higher weight as well as the popular high rep routines. I currently hit them 1-2 a week with 3-4 sets as well. i also feel them being used a bit on compound lifts.

whoa.I found this massive torrent with all kind of books such as

01. Bodybuilding Nutrition 5 - Fat Burning.pdf [1MB]

02. Brooks Kubik - Dinosaur Diet.pdf [2MB]

03. Chris Aceto - Everything You Wanted To Know About Fat Loss.pdf [2MB]

04. Christopher Gerriero - Maximize Your Metabolism.pdf [3MB]

05. David Heber - Herbal Preparations For Obesity.pdf [155KB]

06. David Zinczenko - Abs Diet.pdf [2MB]

07. Digestive Wellness Third Edition.pdf [3MB]

08. Earl Mindell's - Vitamin Bible for the 21st Century.pdf [4MB]

09. Fat Burner Secrets.pdf [354KB]

10. Fire Up Your Metabolism.pdf [1MB]

11. Fitness - Bodybuilding Nutrition .pdf [348KB]

12. GreenTea.pdf [10MB]

13. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only.pdf [4MB]

14. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only_FYBO2_s.jpg [15KB]

15. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only_FYBO_s.jpg [10KB]

16. Health - The Master Cleanser - Lemonade Diet, Cleanse & Fast.pdf [120KB]

17. Health and Bodybuilding - Body Building Recipes.pdf [1MB]

18. Homemade Supplements Secrets.pdf [2MB]

19. Jack Challem - Feed Your Genes Right. Eat to Turn Off Disease.pdf [2MB]

20. James M. Rippe - Break Through the 10 Big Diet Myths.pdf [3MB]

21. Jeff Anderson - Optimum Anabolics.pdf [1MB]

22. John Alvino - Mass Building Shakes.pdf [111KB]

23. Katrina Kern - How to Absolutely Positively Know When Your Body is Burning Fat.pdf [333KB]

24. Lyle McDonald - A Guide to Flexible Dieting.pdf [678KB]

25. Lyle McDonald - Bromocriptine.pdf [293KB]

26. Lyle McDonald - The Ketogenic Diet.pdf [696KB]

27. Lyle McDonald - The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook.pdf [604KB]

28. Lyle McDonald - The Ultimate Diet 2.0.pdf [166KB]

29. Mackie Shilstone - The Fat-Burning Bible.pdf [4MB]

30. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Solution for BodyBuilders.pdf [3MB]

31. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Solution for PowerLifters.pdf [2MB]

32. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Troubleshooter Guide.pdf [320KB]

33. Mauro Dipasquale - Radical Diet 3rdEd.pdf [1MB]

34. Mauro Dipasquale - The Anabolic Diet.pdf [1MB]

35. Mauro Dipasquale - The Metabolic Diet.pdf [2MB]

36. Michael F. Roizen - You On A Diet.pdf [5MB]

37. Mike Mentzer - Heavy Duty Nutrition.pdf [15MB]

38. Newbies Research Guide - A Compilation of Anabolic and Nutrition Supplements.pdf [519KB]

39. Nutrition - 177 Way To Burn Calories.pdf [93KB]

40. Nutrition - Ephedra And Ephedrine For Weight Loss And Athletic Performance.pdf [46KB]

41. Nutrition - Table Of Glycemic Index (Gi).pdf [120KB]

42. Ori Hofmekler - Max Muscle Min Fat.pdf [1MB]

43. Ori Hofmekler - Maximum Muscle Minimum Fat.pdf [1MB]

44. Ori Hofmekler - The Warrior Diet.jpg [45KB]

45. Ori Hofmekler - The Warrior Diet.pdf [3MB]

46. Ori Hofmekler - Warrior Newsletter.pdf [337KB]

47. Paul C. Brag - The Miracle Of Fast.pdf [6MB]

48. Robert C. Atkins - Basic Diet Manual.pdf [5MB]

49. Robert C. Atkins - Carb Counter.pdf [425KB]

50. Robert C. Atkins - Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution.pdf [3MB]

51. Skip La Cour - Bodybuilding Nutrition.pdf [2MB]

52. Stanley Burroughs - The Master Cleanser (Detox) Great! Ocr.pdf [779KB]

53. Steroids for Bodybuilding.pdf [184KB]

54. Steve Holman and Jonathan Lawson - X-Treme Lean - Fat-Burning Diet and Nutrition Guide.pdf [2MB]

55. Supplement Suppliers.pdf [59KB]

56. The Ultimate Tea Diet.pdf [2MB]

57. Thomas Levy - Optimal Nutrition for Optimal Health.pdf [2MB]

58. Todd Massey - Black Market Report On Ephedrine.pdf [204KB]

59. Tom Venuto - 10 Lies About The Atkins Diet.pdf [200KB]

60. Tom Venuto - Foods That Burn Fat.pdf [1MB]

61. Tom Venuto - The A-Food, B-Food Lecture.pdf [862KB]

62. Tom Venuto - The Fat Burn Files.pdf [2MB]

63. Torrent_downloaded_from_Demonoid.com.txt [47 bytes]

64. Wendy Oliver - Fed Up!.pdf [2MB]

65. Will Brink - Creatine Report.pdf [719KB]

66. Will Brink - Diet Supplements Revealed.pdf [2MB]

67. Will Brink - Fat Loss Facts, Tips & Tricks.pdf [5MB]

68. Will Brink - Muscle Building Nutrition.pdf [1MB]

69. Will Brink - Supplement Company Secrets.pdf [3MB]

70. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part1.pdf [35MB]

71. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part2.pdf [43MB]

72. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part3.pdf [38MB]

search for "TheUltimateBodyBuildingLibrary" on your favorite torrent site or pm me.

[kunk75]

you should be doing them heavy though and not more than twice a week.

you wouldn;t curl without a weight in your hand.

you cant really overtrain your abs cuz youre not doing heavy weights and doing like 15 sets with it.

train your abs atleast 3 times a week for like 10 minutes per work out and do like 5-8 sets of ab excercises.

this might be a bad example but Ryan Reynolds started each of his workouts daily with 500 crunches and various ab workouts and his abs are damn near perfection.

Untrained abs look ridiculous in my opinion. Its like seeing a guy who buff arms and no chest, of course he'll argue that he loosk good cuz he has definition when in reality, he has low bf, and no muscle mass. it applies to abs as well.

[kunk75]

shit, i need ld's ud 2.0. where to kop?

.

i remembered reading that its a common for people to overtrain abs although they have a quick recovery time. i also recall that they respond well to lower reps and higher weight as well as the popular high rep routines. I currently hit them 1-2 a week with 3-4 sets as well. i also feel them being used a bit on compound lifts.

whoa.I found this massive torrent with all kind of books such as

01. Bodybuilding Nutrition 5 - Fat Burning.pdf [1MB]

02. Brooks Kubik - Dinosaur Diet.pdf [2MB]

03. Chris Aceto - Everything You Wanted To Know About Fat Loss.pdf [2MB]

04. Christopher Gerriero - Maximize Your Metabolism.pdf [3MB]

05. David Heber - Herbal Preparations For Obesity.pdf [155KB]

06. David Zinczenko - Abs Diet.pdf [2MB]

07. Digestive Wellness Third Edition.pdf [3MB]

08. Earl Mindell's - Vitamin Bible for the 21st Century.pdf [4MB]

09. Fat Burner Secrets.pdf [354KB]

10. Fire Up Your Metabolism.pdf [1MB]

11. Fitness - Bodybuilding Nutrition .pdf [348KB]

12. GreenTea.pdf [10MB]

13. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only.pdf [4MB]

14. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only_FYBO2_s.jpg [15KB]

15. Gregory Tefft - For Your Body Only_FYBO_s.jpg [10KB]

16. Health - The Master Cleanser - Lemonade Diet, Cleanse & Fast.pdf [120KB]

17. Health and Bodybuilding - Body Building Recipes.pdf [1MB]

18. Homemade Supplements Secrets.pdf [2MB]

19. Jack Challem - Feed Your Genes Right. Eat to Turn Off Disease.pdf [2MB]

20. James M. Rippe - Break Through the 10 Big Diet Myths.pdf [3MB]

21. Jeff Anderson - Optimum Anabolics.pdf [1MB]

22. John Alvino - Mass Building Shakes.pdf [111KB]

23. Katrina Kern - How to Absolutely Positively Know When Your Body is Burning Fat.pdf [333KB]

24. Lyle McDonald - A Guide to Flexible Dieting.pdf [678KB]

25. Lyle McDonald - Bromocriptine.pdf [293KB]

26. Lyle McDonald - The Ketogenic Diet.pdf [696KB]

27. Lyle McDonald - The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook.pdf [604KB]

28. Lyle McDonald - The Ultimate Diet 2.0.pdf [166KB]

29. Mackie Shilstone - The Fat-Burning Bible.pdf [4MB]

30. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Solution for BodyBuilders.pdf [3MB]

31. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Solution for PowerLifters.pdf [2MB]

32. Mauro Dipasquale - Anabolic Troubleshooter Guide.pdf [320KB]

33. Mauro Dipasquale - Radical Diet 3rdEd.pdf [1MB]

34. Mauro Dipasquale - The Anabolic Diet.pdf [1MB]

35. Mauro Dipasquale - The Metabolic Diet.pdf [2MB]

36. Michael F. Roizen - You On A Diet.pdf [5MB]

37. Mike Mentzer - Heavy Duty Nutrition.pdf [15MB]

38. Newbies Research Guide - A Compilation of Anabolic and Nutrition Supplements.pdf [519KB]

39. Nutrition - 177 Way To Burn Calories.pdf [93KB]

40. Nutrition - Ephedra And Ephedrine For Weight Loss And Athletic Performance.pdf [46KB]

41. Nutrition - Table Of Glycemic Index (Gi).pdf [120KB]

42. Ori Hofmekler - Max Muscle Min Fat.pdf [1MB]

43. Ori Hofmekler - Maximum Muscle Minimum Fat.pdf [1MB]

44. Ori Hofmekler - The Warrior Diet.jpg [45KB]

45. Ori Hofmekler - The Warrior Diet.pdf [3MB]

46. Ori Hofmekler - Warrior Newsletter.pdf [337KB]

47. Paul C. Brag - The Miracle Of Fast.pdf [6MB]

48. Robert C. Atkins - Basic Diet Manual.pdf [5MB]

49. Robert C. Atkins - Carb Counter.pdf [425KB]

50. Robert C. Atkins - Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution.pdf [3MB]

51. Skip La Cour - Bodybuilding Nutrition.pdf [2MB]

52. Stanley Burroughs - The Master Cleanser (Detox) Great! Ocr.pdf [779KB]

53. Steroids for Bodybuilding.pdf [184KB]

54. Steve Holman and Jonathan Lawson - X-Treme Lean - Fat-Burning Diet and Nutrition Guide.pdf [2MB]

55. Supplement Suppliers.pdf [59KB]

56. The Ultimate Tea Diet.pdf [2MB]

57. Thomas Levy - Optimal Nutrition for Optimal Health.pdf [2MB]

58. Todd Massey - Black Market Report On Ephedrine.pdf [204KB]

59. Tom Venuto - 10 Lies About The Atkins Diet.pdf [200KB]

60. Tom Venuto - Foods That Burn Fat.pdf [1MB]

61. Tom Venuto - The A-Food, B-Food Lecture.pdf [862KB]

62. Tom Venuto - The Fat Burn Files.pdf [2MB]

63. Torrent_downloaded_from_Demonoid.com.txt [47 bytes]

64. Wendy Oliver - Fed Up!.pdf [2MB]

65. Will Brink - Creatine Report.pdf [719KB]

66. Will Brink - Diet Supplements Revealed.pdf [2MB]

67. Will Brink - Fat Loss Facts, Tips & Tricks.pdf [5MB]

68. Will Brink - Muscle Building Nutrition.pdf [1MB]

69. Will Brink - Supplement Company Secrets.pdf [3MB]

70. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part1.pdf [35MB]

71. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part2.pdf [43MB]

72. William Llewellyn's - Anabolics 2006 Part3.pdf [38MB]

search for "TheUltimateBodyBuildingLibrary" on your favorite torrent site or pm me.

[ohsnap]

shit, i need ld's ud 2.0. where to kop?

http://rapidshare.com/files/197483590/Lyle_McDonald_-_The_Ultimate_Diet_2.0.pdf

enjoy, bitches

[fndmybetterhalf]

guess ill do one of these before/after things.

first pic was 2007 i believe before i really started working out and getting my diet straight.

i think i weighed roughly around 165-170ish.

second pic was taken today, at 185 lbs. this is after i lost 10 lbs from my bulk from 195.

doing a clean bulk back up to 195 again cuz im starting to feel small. looks like my abs are gonna have to wait :[

[mrchariybrown]

nice improvement! any better pictures for comparison?

btw, hey what pants them be?

[fndmybetterhalf]

those are uniqlo vintage chinos

hmm no direct pictures taken for comparison purpses. wish i woulda kept track of progress with p ictures

[mrchariybrown]

those are uniqlo vintage chinos

hmm no direct pictures taken for comparison purpses. wish i woulda kept track of progress with p ictures

well you can start doing them now for future comparison.

I really wish there was a uniqlo around here so I could cop basics

[fndmybetterhalf]

me too man. i live in Seattle.

I bought a grip load of shit while I was in Korea this past winter.

[Phyziks]

Ultimate Diet 2.0 is currently blowing my mind. It's really rekindling my love for fitness and nutrition. I've only read about 1/3, but thus far explaining how and why the body works is extremely informative. I always knew about the bodies defense mechanisms against starvation coming from the caveman days, but this is much more in-depth and insightful. Thanks for the link man.

[kunk75]

wish i could double rep. thanks.

http://rapidshare.com/files/197483590/Lyle_McDonald_-_The_Ultimate_Diet_2.0.pdf

enjoy, bitches

[sonicvoodoo]

I just discovered this thread, some good reading

I'd just like to make one point:

All the talk about training/diet suggestions is fine but it's really a matter of trial and error. There is no right or wrong way. Every body responds differently. You need to keep experimenting until you find the right formula for you. There is no gospel.

Yeah, I know this sounds trite.....but it's the truth

*ETA*

this is a great text

http://www.humankinetics.com/products/showproduct.cfm?isbn=9780736058032

[knucks]

UVCs no longer fit me, i may have thrown em out (33x30 iirc)

box squatted 405 beltless on monday at 169.5lbs

meh meh meh

[IM SOLE CRAZY]

Real interesting thread. Shocked I never really paid attention to it before.

[fndmybetterhalf]

This RFL diet is really hard to keep on (especially for a 17yo).

I've been on it a solid week. Dropped down to 138, which is a fucking surprise. But that's all water weight + the fail of electronic scales.

Keeping it consistent at 146/147. Just need to hold out 'til prom in May.

you're 17. i perosnally would stay away from dieting too much.

you're still growing at your age, you should just keep a good consistant work out and let your body grow the way its supposed to.

[fndmybetterhalf]

well its good that its temporary but drastic diets at your age can stun your growth. at your age, you need all the carbs and fat and protein as you can get (short of eating too much that you get fat).

well in the end, if it works for you, it works for you, but i would just keep up with a good workout routine and eat a balanced diet.

[cernunnos]

^^ i agree, you still have a chance to add some inches to yout height, which is more important than thighs at your age. that's why you should eat well and be active, rather than starve yourself

[fndmybetterhalf]

i dont get why people want such skinny thighs...well i guess we are on superfuture...but im more a fan of having nice thick athletic thighs.

blazammmm

[mrchariybrown]

different strokes for different folks. big thighs don't look good in jawnz.

[playdisonlyatnight]

^ give it up man.

just cop some baggy ricky O and embrace ur large wheels

thats what i plan to do someday.

[thorough]

Im with the slim jawns crew. on the otherhand it does look silly when one is out of proportion and had this hulklike upper body with stick legs. almost as bad when someone has thunderthighs and insists on wearing jeans with too small of a leg opening. the combo of meathead and a leg opening of 7 inches could be disasterous.

damn for some reason the only files that are corrupted in that torrent are the lyle mcdonald ones. I still want to check out ketogenic diet and the ultimate diet 2.0. anyone want rep?

everyone should rep Osnap for the link. Thats a good read. i like the lower fat approach and the fact that meal frequency isnt as important as we think. as well as having a refeed and a cheat meal in one week(for certain types) im sold. lowering fat intake as we speak.

[jayrock]

does anyone power clean?

[fndmybetterhalf]

I totally agree with you. I'm back to my regular eating schedule (trust me, I love to eat) and this diet has been rough. But it sure made me look at my eating habits.

And that's not a good thing.

Truth. But it's disappointing and embarrassing for me personally when I can't fit into denim because of my 25"/26" thighs. I'm pretty short too (5'7/8), so I have to drop bodyfat.

+++

eh, im only a couple inches taller than you and my thighs are roughly 26-27". im not one to wear skinny jeans but i dont particularly think my legs look terrible in "slim" pants. its all about proportions. if you have thick legs, work on broadening out your upper body to even it out i guess.

[rxtim]

are you saying that out of opinion or does it look bad on you? straights feels like slims on me