Iphone 2nd Gen. $199...

[Guest umhaha84]

8gb $199, 16gb $299.....

wtf I paid 350 for refurb. 8gb....

Internet looked freakish fast on 3g though

[Bona Drag]

if you haven't learned that's how apple operates by this point, i'm not sure what to tell you

by the way, this is a legit thread that could go somewhere else

[Chicken]

looks like it's in the same casing as before. the rumor i heard was that they were going to be in plastic this time and a little smaller -- guess i heard wrong.

[Lab]

July 11th. What bullshit.

I thought they'd be available by the end of the month.

Oh well. I'm buying.

[ProfMonnitoff]

can i buy one in America and then activate it in the UK without having to jump through hoops, no jailbreaking, etc? I'm talking about a perfectly legit activation with O2, I just want the phone for $200.

[stfuken]

don't forget these prices are only with a new 2 year contract with at&t....

[pantheist]

buying as well.

[dismalfuture]

The only surprising thing about the $199 that has occurred to me is that they're guaranteeing that it will sell for no more than US$199 worldwide, and they're bringing it to some markets where phones have not been subsidized.

Those of us who live in places where phones aren't subsidized by carriers/gov't will probably end up seeing iPhones take over the entire country. 9 months ago I had to pay about $600 for a RAZR2 in Korea, a normal price, every phone is sold full-price over there. The cheapest brand-new phone one can buy in Korea is probably like $200, they came out with a 2007 version of the StarTac over there that was just a phone, no camera or anything, and most phones hover around $500 when new, so this is a big deal if simply for the price. Apple has barely any computer sales in Korea, they were up until a couple years ago, about 200% marked up, and nowadays they're still only for designers and eccentrics, because the Mac OS has never supported the Korean language very well. A $199 iPhone is going to turn the market on its ear.

[Chicken]

can i buy one in America and then activate it in the UK without having to jump through hoops, no jailbreaking, etc? I'm talking about a perfectly legit activation with O2, I just want the phone for $200.

sounds like they're coming to UK the same time they're coming all over the place:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/countries/

oh, but i guess you were trying to get them cheaper.

[ProfMonnitoff]

With the "same price in every country" bit they probably mean that it costs $200 in America, €200 in the Eurozone, CHF200 in Switzerland, and £200 in the UK.

It's always been that way

[dismalfuture]

can i buy one in America and then activate it in the UK without having to jump through hoops, no jailbreaking, etc? I'm talking about a perfectly legit activation with O2, I just want the phone for $200.

They'll probably be selling this in the UK for what is $199, so somebody will probably have it for 99 pounds. I've heard it might sell for 99 Euro over there...

[Guest umhaha84]

don't forget these prices are only with a new 2 year contract with at&t....

they gonna do same approach as last iphone nothing new,,$199 at the apple and att store and, unlock it if you want to unlocking tool will be out within 2 weeks of iphone release

[Charlie Delta]

Well if that means €200 I'm down for sure.

But it won't....

[dismalfuture]

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/08/more-mysterious-boxes-arrive-at-apple-stores/

"We've also heard that Germany's T-Mobile has already received subsidized rate plans for the iPhone coming in at a subsidized 99, 199 and 299 euros. These are prices for hardware with a 2 year contract, but may only represent two distinct models, as the amount of subsidy depends on what rate plan is chosen. For comparison, T-Mobile Germany currently offers 4 prices (99, 149, 199, 249 euros) for the 8GB iPhone alone depending on the rate plan chosen. Meanwhile, the current 16GB iPhone (499 euro) has not been eligible for any discounts regardless of rate plan.

Finally, news is coming out of Spain that the new iPhone will be sold there starting at 99 euros by Corriere.it. "

[ProfMonnitoff]

if they're not bullshitting on the international pricing, it won't even matter that there's an easy unlocking tool because apple would just get such a stupidly large market share and other companies would drop like hell.

[kunk75]

i paid $500 for a 4gb. sucks.

the network is still kinda sucky too. best iphone out there, but not the best phone.

[herpsky]

will be copped

[sidneylo]

Steve omitted the subsidized plan/retail for a reason: they are going for marketshare and will recoup the manufacturing/advertising/etc. costs with their percentage of the phone plans with AT&T.

They're probably aiming for something like 12M+ iPhones by 2009 or some crazy shit like that…

[2000dB]

eh, I think I will cop too.

[geekbonchic]

Hello, birthday present.

[herpsky]

do these phones have sim locks?

cause im in the japland but would like to use the phone in the us

[sidneylo]

do these phones have sim locks?

cause im in the japland but would like to use the phone in the us

It will but I'm betting it will be cracked soon after it is released…or once the firmware is floatin‘ around.

[mrip]

the phone is cheaper, but you still have to pay an extra 30 bux for the internet plan

im rockin my treo with 30 bux for voice and data

peasant status

[ProfMonnitoff]

yeah im thinking of jailbreaking mine just for the 3 months a year i spend in austria

[Chicken]

It will but I'm betting it will be cracked soon after it is released…or once the firmware is floatin‘ around.

i thought one of the whole point of having a phone with a 3G capability is that you can use it pretty much anywhere in the world.

[ProfMonnitoff]

yeah but apple/att love getting that roaming C.R.E.A.M.

[sidneylo]

I'm sure there's some lock on it since Apple wants a cut of every contract agreement iPhone users pay for with their service provider. So, if it's not being offered in a particular country I suppose you'll need to jailbreak it.

[Egpt]

Steve omitted the subsidized plan/retail for a reason: they are going for marketshare and will recoup the manufacturing/advertising/etc. costs with their percentage of the phone plans with AT&T.

They're probably aiming for something like 12M+ iPhones by 2009 or some crazy shit like that…

what are the phone plans like at the moment?

i guess the new cheaper iphone is with an insane phone plan of like 50 euros a month? i never bothered looking up how iphone worked cuz i always thought the priuce was stupid for what it was, but for 99 euros it's a whole different story.

[sidneylo]

In the U.S. it's something like $39.99 for the bare minimum plan, and $20/mo. on top of that for unlimited data…but YMMV depending on your country‘s data plans, etc.

[Kodiak]

Fuck, I just bought an 8GB iTouch like 2 weeks ago for $300!!!!!