yves st. laurent.

[red]

what can you tell me about the label, apart from whats already on wikipedia. my dad used to have some ysl belts (and he's not into fashion at all), so ive always thought they were very corporate. like an upscale tommy hill.

hows the quality?

rive gauche is to ysl as prorsum is to burberry correct?

hows the quality on the more mainstream stuff? many of the pieces ive seen were made in italy, so im expecting at least mediocre quality.

are the mainline suits canvased? you can find them rather cheap, so im not expecting too much.

[Charlie Delta]

Mr st. Laurent once said that he wished he had invented the blue jean....

[ktouran6923]

favorite label compared to gucci, versace, etc

for some reason ysl to me has always been uber ballin

[Liberation1945]

a couple of chicks on super sweet sixteen had ysl shit.

[spillargroove]

What is it your exactly looking for? Well as far as I know, YSL suits can be bought from Ebay with its entire set. Though its own by Gucci, the suits are made in France and because it is a French label, not italian.

[Quattroporte]

Considering the fact the Saint Laurent started his career in Dior Couture, I can't imagine YSL being anywhere near cheap. Pilati is probably keeping quality in mind as well.

However, I don't own enough YSL to know for sure.

[englandmj7]

Tom Ford helped revive YSL. They declined to a Pierre Cardin-like level in the early 90's. Sure, they have some great avant-garde DH type pieces, but overall they are an overpriced European luxury brand. You're paying for the name and can equate their suits/shoe quality, etc. to any other brand you would see on Rodeo: Gucci, Ferragamo, Prada. Save your money for real suit & shoemakers....

[shoreman1782]

They had declined into a Pierre Cardin-like association in the early 90's, a long fall from their reputation in the past of being the cream of the crop.

Keep that in mind with ebay and thrift stuff--YSL was waaaaay over-licensed in the 80s. Pierre Cardin is a good analogy; I used to see poly-blend YSL ties all the time when thrifting.

For more history, there's an interesting (but slooow moving) documentary called "Yves Saint Laurent--His Life and Times" available. Mostly lengthy interview clips--in French with subtitles that are occasionally poorly translated.

[jubei]

I like how the stuff I find on the 'Bay fits me from YSL... presumably since it can be had for so cheap, it's stuff from this period in the brand's history and hence "undesirable" by afficianados.

However, I find that they cut a great, slimmer fitting shirt (I'm wearing a YSL pinstripe button down right now and I've been dying to find another on the 'Bay).

[readytoignite]

Tom Ford helped revive YSL. They declined to a Pierre Cardin-like level in the early 90's. Sure, they have some great avant-garde DH type pieces, but overall they are an overpriced European luxury brand. You're paying for the name and can equate their suits/shoe quality, etc. to any other brand you would see on Rodeo: Gucci, Ferragamo, Prada. Save your money for real suit & shoemakers....

Ford revived the womens line from a commercial perspective but if you're talking menswear it's all about Hedi Slimane. There wasn't that much of a marked difference in quality / pricepoint / distribution between his Rive Gauche collections and Dior Homme (once you correct for inflation and fluctuations in the currency market). Most of the major Rive Gauche menswear accounts dropped it once Slimane left (at least in NYC) so actually I have no idea where they are now in terms of designs.

Gucci is a cut below all those above in quality, it pretty much defines eurotrash.

[Ahlvahroe]

no real imput, never really paid attention to this line but i just like saying my corny little joke of 'its eve with a y'

[Morningstar]

If you're really interested in know what the menswear looks like, I suggest you swing by men.style.com. Quality and pricepoint is luxury. They also have an online store you can access through the website.

[thelion1856]

the white leather ysl shoes low top or high, look sweet but other than that the items in the store were expensive as fuck and overfucking priced.

[Fuuma]

Pilati has taken the label in a very "european old money on a resort" direction, some of it works pretty well but probably not if you're a college student in the US....

I'd look at the collections before deciding if I'm interested or not. You'll also note that even when a season is crap (see last season) if always look perfect when Pilati wears it, that guy IS YSL now.

[jet]

^werd

There are a few things I have my eye on that are super dope. That, hermes and possibly marni are the only mall brand shit I'll wear.

[Vitamian]

What would be more infinitely better if they had let Slimane back on. His YSL Rive Gauche collections were my favorite.

I mean, size Larges that fit like size Smalls?

That's elitism there. No man with a size 44 chest should be wearing Dior Homme.

Otherwise, I would be more hopeful for a YSL that went back to its '70s roots--wide lapels and flashy shirts. A lot of that Coke & Sex Fuck You business.

[subarashii_kudamono]

anyone else catch the article on tfs of mr. yves talking about tom? haha!

..."I think he has a lot of talent for, what do you call it, marketing. But he never showed interest in the archives," Saint Laurent said of Ford,...'The sadomasochism -- it became unbearable,' he added. "

http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f60/yves-saint-laurent-tom-ford-3415.html#post75551

[macuser3of5]

What would be more infinitely better if they had let Slimane back on. His YSL Rive Gauche collections were my favorite.

Gonna agree here, though I would rather Hedi do this with his own line. And yeah, L = S, crazy stuff.

[Vitamian]

anyone else catch the article on tfs of mr. yves talking about tom? haha!

..."I think he has a lot of talent for, what do you call it, marketing. But he never showed interest in the archives," Saint Laurent said of Ford,...'The sadomasochism -- it became unbearable,' he added. "

http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f60/yves-saint-laurent-tom-ford-3415.html#post75551

It's widely known that YSL and Berge skipped Ford's debut at YSL for Slimane's show at Dior.

[goldengloves]

Has anyone checked out the clothing this season?

I really want to try some of those insanely oversized coats. I've seen oversized before, but YSL took that and made it next level.

[Vitamian]

I don't think those look good at all. They look like '80s Armani which is a look that I tend to dislike.