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I`m looking for vintage Levi`s and I had a question about this pair on y!jp:

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f54643802

From the cut I`m guessing these were made somewhere between the 1940s and late 1960s? If you know or could guess approx what decade are these from? The seller doesn`t specify.

Thankyou for any help.

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first of all sorry i cant help...

are you really thinkin' about spending 200000yen on a pair of jeans??

...they look nice tho

Yo Felix, there is no way I would drop like $2000 on a pair of jeans I couldnt try on first or see better. But yeah, thats the kind of thing I`m looking for. BIG size XX Big E. Once I move to Tokyo I might try to contact this guy to meet up and see the jeans in person.

Theres also a store I wanna check out called Ambitious in Shimokitazawa I think with a lot of XX in tons of sizes. Seem to be vintage Levis specialists. They even got some 1890s Levis for over $20,000!!

btw anyone got some vintage Levis seller recommendations in Tokyo?

Thankyou for people`s posts, yeah I cant believe he`s expecting people to pay that with those shitty pics.

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one more thing: the red tab of these doesn´t show the trademark "R", I guess this were firts used in the late sixties. so these must had been made earlier.

interesting..can anyone confirm? maybe the "R" just rubbed off?

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MilSpex, I´ve got it! I had one more look at the pics and on one pic you can see, that the jean got the single sided RedTab. These jeans are made between 1947-1953, that also would declare the high price.

Thankyou!. I want these even worse now. Like a piece of real history. but In the Japanse market tho 200,000 is a little low for Big Es this early.

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Reports vary, but the consensus is the 'r' appeared around 1950-1951 - it's never seen on jeans with the single-sided tab. That, the arcuate, and the single-sided ab all date these jeans between 1947-1951.

But why are you looking for them? If you want them to wear, buy a pair of LVC. They'll fit you perfectly and probably look better. I have owned 1950s Levi's, in better condition than this, which looked great, but the difference between those and LVC is marginal - and with the reissues, you can actually ensure you get a pair that fit. Honestly, if you don't instantly recognise these as late 40s jeans, why would you want to pay out than many $$$$$ for them?

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Reports vary, but the consensus is the 'r' appeared around 1950-1951 - it's never seen on jeans with the single-sided tab. That, the arcuate, and the single-sided ab all date these jeans between 1947-1951.

But why are you looking for them? If you want them to wear, buy a pair of LVC. They'll fit you perfectly and probably look better. I have owned 1950s Levi's, in better condition than this, which looked great, but the difference between those and LVC is marginal - and with the reissues, you can actually ensure you get a pair that fit. Honestly, if you don't instantly recognise these as late 40s jeans, why would you want to pay out than many $$$$$ for them?

I could tell easy they are Big E vintage. I just wasnt sure of the exact era. The distressed LVC repros dont come close imo.

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From the shape of the pockets, front & back, they're from the mid-'50s to the mid-'60s. There's rivets under the back pockets; and I doubt the red tab is one-sided. The quality of the picture doesn't allow to tell, and given the fact its regular position is folded over, the embroidered LEVI'S lettering is usually worn off on jeans that age.

As for the incentive of buying more expensive original big E's over LVC, I can certainly see it. The LVC repros are full of anachronic details/errors, they're made of denim visibly different from the original weave & dye on the originals; and even if LVC bothered to REALLY make identical repros of original vintage Levi's, our current lifestyle, washing/wearing habits and detergents would not allow the same end result.

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You're right, the distressed LVC don't come close. I would only suggest buying raw and having the fun of wearing them in yourself. But again, I would question buying vintage from the off now it is so expensive.

The nicest jeans I have owned were mid 50s Levi's which I bought for $30, they had had perhaps a couple of washes; but I think the differences between those and the LVC (or Sugarcane) are hugely exaggerated. The fact you can simply go out and buy the correct size in a new jean, is a reason to go for the latter. If I got hold of a pair of 50s Leiv's again for £15, I would probably sell them and buy a couple of repros, plus some artwork I could put on my wall.

Oh, and if the red tab is double sided, that arcuate is characterestic of 50s jeans, not 60s, which had a much shallower, symmetrical arcuate.

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You're right, the distressed LVC don't come close. I would only suggest buying raw and having the fun of wearing them in yourself. But again, I would question buying vintage from the off now it is so expensive.

The nicest jeans I have owned were mid 50s Levi's which I bought for $30, they had had perhaps a couple of washes; but I think the differences between those and the LVC (or Sugarcane) are hugely exaggerated. The fact you can simply go out and buy the correct size in a new jean, is a reason to go for the latter. If I got hold of a pair of 50s Leiv's again for £15, I would probably sell them and buy a couple of repros, plus some artwork I could put on my wall.

Oh, and if the red tab is double sided, that arcuate is characterestic of 50s jeans, not 60s, which had a much shallower, symmetrical arcuate.

Yeah, I`m honestly done breaking in jeans by myself. It takes too long, I dont have the patience and they always come out with shitty fades on me. I had some pretty cheap `80s vintage back in the late `90s and I loved those so much. Shit fell apart I wore em so much. I want that love again. But 50s or 60s ones gotta feel and look even better imo.

Edit - I guess the reason shit doesnt fade nice when i wear is coz I wear loose and low. ideally I want to rock some jeans a 6`6, 300lb cowboy wore to death. So then I got loose jeans with the best possible fade.

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hey mil, i guess your going for a look like this, right?!

damn that shit looks so good...i've been looking for denim like that for a while now but it's kinda hard to find

are they wearing neigborhood denim?

i always hated the pre-stressing on those.....the Levis you posted seem to be dope, please keep us updated!

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hey mil, i guess your going for a look like this, right?!

damn that shit looks so good...i've been looking for denim like that for a while now but it's kinda hard to find

are they wearing neigborhood denim?

i always hated the pre-stressing on those.....the Levis you posted seem to be dope, please keep us updated!

Yeah Felix! Thats my homeboy Gusto. Him, you and me have got pretty similar ideas of how pants should be worn I think. Gusto is rocking some Atmos x Levis right there.

Jap kid on the right I`m not sure but looks like some Hectic or Masterpiece dealies to me.

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