macbook info

[nonissue]

i havent been into computers since like forever so hows the processor on the mac compare to a pentium 4(which is what i have right now)?

What pentium 4? What mac (there's more than one...)?

[lovethrust]

The only thing I was disappointed by was the lack of 1920x1200, but in order to get that last time you needed the gigantic 17 inch mac pro, and very few other laptops have that. Otherwise neato

[bob_gnarly]

hali- you can find the edu. discount online under the edu. tag. you just enter your college and it gives you discounted prices for some of the stuff. thats what i gotta do seeing as how i am a student that def. needs the discount:(. still not sure if i should go macbook or spend a bit more on the MBP

[bruised]

thanks. i'm gonna go just normal macbook. no need for fancy graphic stuffs.

[ajchen]

i ordered one as soon as they dropped today... i'm on a 3+ year old powerbook g4 12" and the thing has pretty much slowed to a halt, not to mention the fact that my battery died 1+ year ago so i have to stay plugged in for the laptop to work. i sprung for the 13.3" macbook at the 2.4gHz level ($1600). i'll post some pictures and first impressions when I get it next week. i'd be happy to answer questions as well, if that helps.

bob: as far as i can tell, the top-level macbook is pretty similar to the bottom-level macbook pro; the only difference is monitor size. apple really leveled the playing field by building both on the same chassis... i guess it really comes down to size preference. i like the portability of the 13" so thats why i opted for the macbook.

[lawless]

I will be using it as a desktop replacement as well when I'm in my dorm, so I'd have a monitor, external hdd, wireless mouse, flash drive of some sort, etc.. but then I can cop a hub to resolve that issue.

they have these devices that turn one usb slot into 4 or 7 usb slots. check your local bestbuy or bestbuy.com under laptop accessories

[islandboi8204]

ajchen what kinda work did you do on your powerbook g4? I've got the same 12'' and i love the compact portability of it. i'm thinking of upgrading, but really the only thing not working for me is the battery which im thinking i can just replace for a hundred bucks. the g4 seems to suit my needs for just simple web browsing/music/word processing. def let us know how the new machines are... it's such a shame they'll never make a 12'' again...

[ajchen]

island - apps that i use regularly every day include photoshop, illustrator, apple mail, ichat, itunes, word, and excel - and i run all of them concurrently. my 12" g4 was the last one made before they moved to the intel based processor, and when i first got it i found that it ran apps slowly. i upgraded to 1.5 gigs of ram but it still isn't as fast as i would like... it seems to struggle regularly, and much more so now than before. i struggled with buying a new battery last year but i kept figuring that i would upgrade soon and didnt want to waste money on it.

in my opinion, if you like the size of the machine and it does well by you, get the battery. performance was an issue for me so i had to upgrade. just remember that laptops do deteriorate over time, so it definitely wont last forever.

[christianjustin]

my friend told me that you can actually trade in your old macbook (his is only two months) at certain apple stores and get the new one. i call bs.

can anyone confirm?

i want to know too!

[islandboi8204]

yeah aj you definitely needed the upgrade. mine is around 4+ years now and with 1.25 gigs of ram, i've had to steer clear of programs like photoshop and illustrator unless i only have mail open.. ha. seems like we use the same programs and while it'd be nice to be able to run them all at the same time like you're saying, i think i'll stick with the cheaper battery swap for now. but maybe when you get yours and post a persuading review i'll take the plunge

[branespload]

*still wondering if the MB 2.0GHz come with backlit keyboards and what apple will do once people who were told that they did receive theirs without backlight..*

[shekki]

^I doubt the macbooks will get led back lit. was it even explicitly stated?

edit: i thought you were talking about the plastic mb. forget that the $1300 Ai macbook has slower processor speed.

but yeah i dont think the 2ghz gets backlit.

as for being able to swap old for new, i googled it, and some guy on a forum said no. someone should call or goot the store and ask because if thats the case i might consider trading my pro. haha

[darkness2505]

i think macbooks do get backlit keyboards.. but i dont know which one. If you viewed the video of the macbook in the apple store, you ll see the backlit keyboard

[bruised]

will kop. real question: where and how to cop? what is this student discount talk?

buy online to save on taxes?

got this from another forum, its spose to work for the new stuff too i guess.

STUDENTS: buying a Mac at deep discount

Let me introduce you to the Student Developer Discount.

Click link,

http://developer.apple.com/students/sthardware.html

Find, and click bold link:

United States and Canada

Eligible Student members in the United States may order directly from the ADC Hardware Purchase Program Store.

As a student, sign up for $99 and you'll get:

-Mac OS X and Xcode Tools

-1 ADC Hardware Discount

-ADC Monthly Mailing

The discount is valid ONCE in the LIFETIME of your membership:

For example COMPARE your STUDENT DISCOUNT:

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

1440 x 900 resolution

2GB memory

160GB hard drive1

8x double-layer SuperDrive

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM

Ships: 5-7 business days

Free Shipping

$2,499.00

to the DEVELOPER pricing:

2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

1440 x 900 resolution

2GB memory

160GB hard drive1

8x double-layer SuperDrive

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM

Ships: 3-5 business days

Free Shipping

$1,999.00

Even when you factor the ipod and printer shit, it's still a better deal.

[Knugget]

WHAT THE FUCK?!?! Sounds good.. what's the catch? Seems as if there's no warranty?

[kiya]

Just robokopped the new MacBook... took them too damn long to come out with these things..

[bruised]

WHAT THE FUCK?!?! Sounds good.. what's the catch? Seems as if there's no warranty?

if you're talking about the apple care protection plan, you can buy a warranty after the fact, for up to a year i think.

[Knugget]

http://developer.apple.com/membership/pdf/terms.pdf

Read the terms/conditions #5. orrr...am I just stupid after a long day?

[Allan.]

my friend told me that you can actually trade in your old macbook (his is only two months) at certain apple stores and get the new one. i call bs.

can anyone confirm?

At the stores, it's 14 days from point of purchase, and if you open it there's a 10 percent restocking fee. So you're out of luck unless you bought it up to 14 days before the new ones came out.

And as for someone saying the difference between the newest highest end macbook and the newest lowest end macbook pro as being just the screen, you sir are leaving out the difference in processor speed and the added graphics card that comes on the pro.

[ProfMonnitoff]

why do people care about backlit keyboards so much

the light from the screen lets you see the keys anyways

i have the keyboard backlighting turned off on my macbook pro

[branespload]

^ aesthetics (we're on superfuture after all.)

What I meant earlier was that the ape store config shows the 1299 MacBook having a backlit keyboard option when the keynote stated otherwise.. So people asked service reps and they said the entry level model DOES come with backlit keys and were willing to correct any problems if they didn't come backlit.. It's interesting, it's like getting a white one vs a black one back then.

[kunk75]

picked up 1299 model today and it is pretty impressive looking in terms of construction. will post when i can.

[branespload]

^ post if it has backlit keys, just curious. thx.

[kunk75]

^it does have a backlit board.

[couturehomme]

anyone knows when apple plans to upgrade the 17" macboook pro???

[branespload]

on the 2.0GHz 1299 base model!? BRANESPLOAD

EDIT http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=581529

DOES NOT AGREE

[phelen]

2.0 has backlit keyboards?. Phoned Apple UK and said they didn't.

[branespload]

Yeah exactly, but some people say they do, some say they don't, some say the reps say they do, some say the reps say they don't.. some get $150 credit for the mistake, others 75, others 50.. some get free upgrades to the 2.4GHz, etc..

it'd be nice to take advantage of apple's mistake and cheat them out of $300 or so

[altwaev]

Clearance section + student discount.

I just saved like $1000 on the 2.5ghz compared to 2 days ago?

[mis]

This may be a stupid question: Is there a way to upgrade the processor of a macbook pro? (ie 2.16GHz to 2.4) or is the only way to improve speed upgrading ram