Infernal Affairs or The Departed

[dumadiscount]

resident superfilm buffs, i put to you the question: which is a better film in its own right Infernal Affairs or The Departed?

[Kasper]

there was a big thread about this a couple month ago when the departed came out (weirdly, when i search with the regular engine, i can't find it, but i easilly found it with google).

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=16625

like i said in the other thread, i think Infernal Affairs is much better

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The Departed is better.

[digital_denim]

Infernal Affairs...Tony Leung is the man.

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Infernal Affairs. The Departed was all right, but overblown compared to the subtleties of IA. IA's got better acting and pacing (minus that "relationship" with the therapist), although I only liked the first and last of the trilogy.

? the last was horrible...it's all about the 2nd.

[digital_denim]

i only liked the first one.

[superdupersang]

AI.

is there any remake that outdid the original?

i ask becasue only a sucessful film with a kick ass premises and story will ever be considered to be remade.

as for me, i really liked the new solaris but yet to see the original

[Zeni]

Infernal Affairs. IMO The Departed had an overblown/superficial quality to it. And Jack Nicholson was knee-deep in that weak "bad guys who do/say weird shit to show just how bad they are" trope. That said, I liked it, but it pales in comparison to IA.

[Fuuma]

I know one is a remake of the other but is it really useful to compare a slick, glass and metal urban jungle thriller with razor sharp editing and a perfectly paced scenario to a gritty, 70s style character driven cop-drama set in the working class district, all rust browns and greys. Look, pacing, editing, dialogue even thematic angle are so different those are totaly different movies unless you just write a very short description of each event and compare both movies using that you'll find nothing similar.

[snugglepony]

I know one is a remake of the other but is it really useful to compare a slick, glass and metal urban jungle thriller with razor sharp editing and a perfectly paced scenario to a gritty, 70s style character driven cop-drama set in the working class district, all rust browns and greys. Look, pacing, editing, dialogue even thematic angle are so different those are totaly different movies unless you just write a very short description of each event and compare both movies using that you'll find nothing similar.

totally agree.

but since we're comparing apples and oranges anyway: i enjoyed the departed much more (despite my soft spot for tony leung).

[and why isn't this thread a poll?]

[Double D]

? the last was horrible...it's all about the 2nd.

I love the much-maligned second to pieces. Someone should really slice those films up in Final Cut and see what they'd be like with the scenes put into chronology... the third film was just a little too artsy with the time disruption.

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Has anyone seen that new movie w/ Tony Leung "Confessions of Pain" yet? Made by the same guys behind IA...apparently another good cop/bad cop epic, it looks pretty interesting, too bad I will have to wait until I am back in HK to get the VCD....

[kromeave]

The departed

[Konfucius]

Has anyone seen that new movie w/ Tony Leung "Confessions of Pain" yet? Made by the same guys behind IA...apparently another good cop/bad cop epic, it looks pretty interesting, too bad I will have to wait until I am back in HK to get the VCD....

Takeshi Kaneshiro's in it too.. man I wanna see it so bad

[lil brown brother]

Infernal Affairs was way better

[wEstSidE]

I haven't seen the Departed. Is it a remake of Infernal Affairs? I must say that I loved IA so it would be difficult to top it.

[kenthenoob]

I haven't seen the Departed. Is it a remake of Infernal Affairs? I must say that I loved IA so it would be difficult to top it.

i haven't seen the departed either, but it's basically an americanized version of infernal affairs with an ending that's more appropriated or whatever to the american audience... or that was what my friend told me.

[Brienneoftarth]

can you buy internal affairs for us region dvd players? and do they have dubbing or subtitles?

[Zeni]

There's a subbed/dubbed R1 DVD http://www.amazon.com/Infernal-Affairs-Wu-jian-dao/dp/B00005JN7C/sr=8-1/qid=1168966474/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-7218014-9731218?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

[prog]

infernal affair hands down. Departed over did it with the "ill have to kill you to keep my secret bs" lol

[kenthenoob]

can you buy internal affairs for us region dvd players? and do they have dubbing or subtitles?

there are dvd players that can play dvds from all regions. you could find infernal affairs at places like ranch market 99 (some asian mall), chinatown, or you could always get the torrent for it.

[hard2chui]

Infernal Affair for sure.... the Departed was good but Infernal Affairs was better....

[Liberation1945]

IA for sure...

...although dicaprio getting his head blown off was quite the treat.

[docnbhd]

I'd really have to say Infernal Affairs... Although I enjoyed both, I felt that the writing in Departed made every phrase said by Dicaprio-Nicholson-Wahlberg-Damon seem like a quotable "catch-phrase" - trying to hard to be gangster. Infernal Affairs seemed to pace faster, I felt it was more suspenseful/gripping, and Tony Leung is the man.

[Ryan]

I have to say Departed was alot more entertaining to watch. so much of the dialogue was rediculous, my friend and i had plenty of laugh out loud moments, the whole thing was way over the top..

[Ryan]

and how ironic is it that scorcese might actualy win an oscar finally, for a remake..

[kauflust]

Even though The Departed won several Oscars, there'll be no room in my heart for a complex and intruiging story of double-crossing cops/gangsters passing like ships in the night except for Infernal Affairs.

Not to take away from Scorcese, but his Oscar felt like one given away out of pity.

[Kasper]

not to mention that the announcer called Infernal Affairs a japanese movie.....

[kauflust]

^ Oscars, what the fuck. There's no such thing as a proper homage in Hollywood.

[Kwing]

infernal affairs.. no doubt