gap has raw, 'authentic japanese', selvedge jeans.

[corned beef]

anyone else here see the other pair of selvage that GAP now? Its a straighter slightly slimmer fit more reminiscent of a Levi 501. I tried on a 29 the other day (i'm a natural 30) and I must admit it was not a bad fit. 60 bucks i believe and im not entirely sure of the name. It does have pocket selvage which looks a bit awkward too.

[sycamore no more]

hansoo417: Holy shit how tall are you?

[hansoo417]

^^ i'm 5'4". i'm really short. lol

[tweeds]

Why does everyone soak their jeans before they wear em? Even when they fit right.

cmf is right, in most cases you wouldn't need to (with sanforised denim).

however some like to soak it anyway, to remove some of the starch in the denim. both Paul T and Deus have mentioned that starched denim has a tendency, if worn hard, to crack or even rip. in less severe cases your fades might see some loose "threads" or breaks in the honeycombs and whiskers. but again most people just wear their APCs and nudies out of the bag, with no problems, so. it's a personal preference really...

[pokpok]

For sure, take that damn white tag off. Find a razor blade or some small sharp sicssors and cut that crap out...

haha, im lazy to remove the tag..and mine has a nasty yellow/brown stain because of the starch when i was soaking it

[hansoo417]

Does anyone know what weight this denim is?

heres a project i'm considering. I wanna remove the ugly pockets on thes goughs and either put different ones on or cut em smaller and put em back on. Is this possible, and if it is, is it a bad idea? Considering they were only $20 i'm willing to take a little risk in order to get better looking jeans.

[diewhitegirls]

Does anyone know what weight this denim is?

heres a project i'm considering. I wanna remove the ugly pockets on thes goughs and either put different ones on or cut em smaller and put em back on. Is this possible, and if it is, is it a bad idea? Considering they were only $20 i'm willing to take a little risk in order to get better looking jeans.

Not only is it not a bad idea, it's also a good idea.

[LIVENUDEGIRLS]

This is probably a long shot, but does anyone's local gap still have Morrisons in a 30 or 31 waist? If so, and if you would be interested in picking me up a pair, please pm.

More on topic, I got my pair of Goughs today. I actually really like the details, but they really fit like shit. Its too bad too. These could have been some really nice jeans. I'm reluctant to get them tailored, because I really don't know of a tailor that I'm confident would do a good job, but I am considering getting them tapered to improve the fit some. Anyone done this with theirs? pics?

[hansoo417]

Yeah, i'm returning my 28W. Its simply too small. I'm gonna try to find a 29 or 30. Is there anyone who might also be able to find me a pair?

[baysickbeatz]

heres a couple pics of the new straight rigid's with the blue selvedge from this season...the tag inside says that these are called the "free spirits". They look to be the same cut as the straight rigid's online with the same red selvedge as the morrisons, but i perfer the blue selvedge.

[baysickbeatz]

Fyi, i had to size down to a 32 with my Goughs(im a 33 in 501 stf's), but with these free spirits i had to size down to a 31 to get them to not fit baggy. I probobly could have gone with a 32, but i know these are going to stretch so i went with the 31.

[blank]

i have a 32x32 for sale in the supermarket, bnwt, take a look if you want to save the hassle and gas money

[LIVENUDEGIRLS]

those look pretty good from what I can tell baysickbeatz

[Blues]

Would anyone mind pm'ing me any Gap location in NYC that carries the goughs? I stopped in one store when I managed to get a bit of free time, but they didnt have it.

[baysickbeatz]

thanks for the comments....i liked how the goughs fit on me...but i sure am enjoying these a lot more...

[baysickbeatz]

oh i forgot to mention, those pics are from 2 days of wear...just to give you guys an idea...

[Larry!]

I got a pair of Goughs just under two weeks ago for like twenty bucks. Good deal.

But yeah, the only size they had them in that would fit me was 28, which I was not expecting to fit into but I did (I usually wear a 30 comfortably). It is a bit tight around the crotch, and I think the cut's a bit flattering, but other than that, they're a pretty good pair of jeans. One complaint though, and maybe this is just a personal case, there might be too many buttons on the fly, more than my Paper's in any case, and that causes them to kinda make the whole crotch section bulge out. It's just weird and slightly awkward.

After nearly weeks of wear, there's a bit of whisker and honeycomb folds, but no real fading yet, except in some spots. I can take some pics if people want?

Also, the inside tag says "rinsed selvage". Does that mean these aren't entirely dry?

[antirabbit]

Damn, these things have totally flown off the shelves. If you call the Gap 800 #, they can locate your size in any state, so then they will connect you to the store and you can have them ship them to you for $5. Most sizes are gone, and gone everywhere...so if you want some, call the number and get them, they are 15$ everywhere so for $20.00 your set. Oh, you also need the product ID # which is 445212-00-1, if you ask for Gough's, they will have no idea what the hell you are talking about. My a FYI.

[CAClifton]

Ive been wearing my Goughs since November 13th, has anyone had any since before then? If so, how are they looking? Has anyone washed after wearing?

[Charlie Delta]

These don't look half bad, more pics (front/back/selvedge etc.)?

[ilovespaz]

they used a lot of fabric on those goughs - double sided selvage w/ a selvage waist band .. for 20 bucks - - this is extremely good value since gap waisted probably 34 inches worth of fabric to have a selvage waistband, -

[cheapmuthafukr]

^^ or used it in the production of jeans that dont have selvage seams.

[baysickbeatz]

ill post more pics in the morning when there is better light...

[antirabbit]

Forget what I said about the 800 line(that said my local store had 2 pair and 2 pair only), I went to the store to pick some up I put on hold...they had like 25 pairs, in pretty much all sizes...$15 bucks. If you are having trouble finding these, just ask, Ill tell you where these are and you can call and have them shipped to you...

[LIVENUDEGIRLS]

Can anyone confirm if Morrisons are slimmer in the thigh area? Also do these also measure two inches longer in the inseam than tagged? If anyone has the thigh measurements (right underneath the crotch, like this: http://www.samurai-j.com/contents/jeans/s5000bk/img/size.gif) for waists marked 30 or 31, it would be very much appreciated.

[antirabbit]

They are slimmer, I have both the Goughs and Morrisons (selvedge), they Goughs are much better denim. I sized down 2 sizes in the Gough and like the fit. It is not a tapered fit, but nice none the less.

[LIVENUDEGIRLS]

Yeah, I didn't like the cut on my Goughs at all, but its starting to grow on me. I also sized down by two. If i hadn't I don't suspect I would have liked them at all.

[skalogre]

Yeah, I didn't like the cut on my Goughs at all, but its starting to grow on me. I also sized down by two. If i hadn't I don't suspect I would have liked them at all.

Same here. I am getting fond of them, I also sized two down.

[FLAT_FOOT_888]

I am usually a 32-30..should I slim it down to a 30-30 or a 31-30 or should I just stick with my size in teh GOUGH?

thanks for the help

[antirabbit]

Here is a link to some pics of mine after 1.5 months of wear. 1 soak (hot).

http://styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=28160

there are some fades starting and I love the combs.