Outlier

[einstine]

I hear lots of bad things about their stitching. I would love to buy another pair of New OGs in concrete. But I cant decide if I want to put that much money towards something that may not last very long.

I do love the new ogs I have now though.

[zackl111]

i will again say that outlier makes some of the longest-lasting shit that I have ever worn.

i wore my OG works for 3 years multiple times a week, didn't take any special care of them, beat the living hell out of them, and have only just now had to take them to a tailor for a few little repairs. I have worn my two pair of shorts almost exclusively all summer for 2 years straight, riding in them, swimming in them, etc.

sometimes a little thread comes loose, then i cut it off, and it is fine. the pants aren't like unraveling or anything lol. i have the chinos, ultralights, multiple pairs of OG's, works, three way shorts and workwear shorts.

also any time i have had any type of issue, i just contact Outlier and they sort me out. I lost a button on my shorts, I emailed them and they sent me three buttons to fix.

i give them a "buy with confidence" vote.

[einstine]

i will again say that outlier makes some of the longest-lasting shit that I have ever worn.

i wore my OG works for 3 years multiple times a week, didn't take any special care of them, beat the living hell out of them, and have only just now had to take them to a tailor for a few little repairs. I have worn my two pair of shorts almost exclusively all summer for 2 years straight, riding in them, swimming in them, etc.

sometimes a little thread comes loose, then i cut it off, and it is fine. the pants aren't like unraveling or anything lol. i have the chinos, ultralights, multiple pairs of OG's, works, three way shorts and workwear shorts.

also any time i have had any type of issue, i just contact Outlier and they sort me out. I lost a button on my shorts, I emailed them and they sent me three buttons to fix.

i give them a "buy with confidence" vote.

Good to know. I can not wait till they restock the three way shorts.

[zackl111]

the three way shorts are up there with the OG's as my favorite item. people complain about the length, but I love it. so versatile and comfortable and the look slick/modern because of the length. plus having one pair of shorts that you can comfortably ride and swim in is fantastic. if they have the sea green ones again this summer i will definitely pick up another pair.

[fungz0r]

Hopping on the praise train, I lived in my 3 way shorts last summer as well. And I too love my OGs for wearing in the rain since I live in the PNW

[einstine]

the three way shorts are up there with the OG's as my favorite item. people complain about the length, but I love it. so versatile and comfortable and the look slick/modern because of the length. plus having one pair of shorts that you can comfortably ride and swim in is fantastic. if they have the sea green ones again this summer i will definitely pick up another pair.

They said they were restocking sea green soon. How do the three way shorts fit? I wear a 29 in new OGs and am not sure if I should get a 28, or 30 since for some reason they skip 29 like many other companies.

[brooks_]

I wear a 33 in Keirin Cuts and the 34 Three Ways fit about the same if not a little tighter in the waist.

[Japaslavian]

Out of my 3-ways, slim dungarees, and climbers, the 3-ways fit the largest (but only barely).

Hoping they restock the 3-ways longs too, been wanting to try out a longer inseam.

[einstine]

I think I just might go for the 28's. I could always just v notch the back.

[fungz0r]

I have 29 in the OGs and got 30 in the 3 ways and they're slightly large, I'd get 28s if they are in stock again

[einstine]

30s have pretty big thighs also.Here is a shot of my Outlier New OGs in Sz 29

What do you all think of the fit? I might get the concrete pair also can not decide.

Edited April 7, 2013 by einstine

[fasttimes]

Go for the 28 as I find they run a little large

[readytoignite]

We're investigating other alternatives of course but there is a reason you see it used in say LEAF, Crye and FYI's Patagonia stuff still.

Fyi's cuff closures are a thing of beauty... Pleats please

[Nov Spur]

If anyone is looking for a NE Pivot shirt in grey stripe (medium) drop me a pm. Wore it once then washed and it shrunk just a little too much in the shoulders for me.

[Brainboy]

Reddit AMA

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1c2z74/i_am_abe_burmeister_founder_of_outlier_i/

[Appleseed]

^ that's awesome. I've never spent much time on Reddit (Superconfessional?), but am impressed there's been that many comments/replies in just two hours-

[einstine]

Thanks for the heads up. Was a good read and I enjoyed the random questions.

EDIT:

Also an FYI... 3-Ways hopefully by the end of the week. IN ODD SIZES TOO... Exactly what I needed.

I read the reddit through my whole business class today. I know I can't wait for green shorts!!!

[readytoignite]

Re: buttons, for pants why not hook closures with an extended button tab (dress pants style)?

[einstine]

Re: buttons, for pants why not hook closures with an extended button tab (dress pants style)?

New OGs use both. I think they are great I have not had them for long. But its only a damn button.

[einstine]

THREE WAYS ARE UP!!! HURRY!!!

[einstine]

^ I can't decide on the purple... I hope it's as dark as it looks.

EDIT: I'm such a puss. Went with black haha

I know!!! Purple looks Navy, and Navy look like grey. WTF? haha

The black look more matte then my OGs. I went with the black, green. The green is amazing!

[crucialkc]

Ugh just realized when I ordered my 3 way longs that they sent me navy instead of black, at least that's what it seems like since my shorts look exactly like their navy swatch and nothing like the black ones. Bummer.

[einstine]

Ugh just realized when I ordered my 3 way longs that they sent me navy instead of black, at least that's what it seems like since my shorts look exactly like their navy swatch and nothing like the black ones. Bummer.

That sucks, at least you got 45 days to return. Sit on it, twitter said new stock of longs will be up soon.

[zackl111]

abe: any plans to increase the size of the pocket on the pivot sleeve shirts so that they can hold an iphone?

also, anyone have the off-white merino tee? thinking about getting one, concerned that it might be see-throughy, particularly when it gets a little wet. not sure how thick the tees are, haven't gotten one ever.

[Inkinsurgent]

also, anyone have the off-white merino tee? thinking about getting one, concerned that it might be see-throughy, particularly when it gets a little wet. not sure how thick the tees are, haven't gotten one ever.

Merino tees shouldnt be see-through unless they're way below 150sgm.

[SuE]

Merino tees shouldnt be see-through unless they're way below 150sgm.

My off-white Rapha V-neck is partly see-through even when dry. I haven't gotten an Outlier merino tee though.

[brooks_]

Went ahead and picked up some Three Ways while they're available, but thinking I may exchange them for some longs when they're out, though.

[Abe1x]

Ugh just realized when I ordered my 3 way longs that they sent me navy instead of black, at least that's what it seems like since my shorts look exactly like their navy swatch and nothing like the black ones. Bummer.

We just got the navy in yesterday morning and started shipping today so it's unlikely you got a navy. The black in that 4Season isn't as black as ideal due to the way the stretch cordura fibres reflect light. If you look the back face, with the looser poly fibers you should notice they are a blacker black. We've been harassing Schoeller about this for a while but they haven't been able to do anything about it. It's almost certainly a fiber/weave thing though as the Workcloth uses the exact same color dye and comes in significantly blacker.

[Abe1x]

abe: any plans to increase the size of the pocket on the pivot sleeve shirts so that they can hold an iphone?

also, anyone have the off-white merino tee? thinking about getting one, concerned that it might be see-throughy, particularly when it gets a little wet. not sure how thick the tees are, haven't gotten one ever.

Lots of shirt iteration in process right now so yeah, might happen. I personally like it as is for the iphone. It doesn't go all the way in, but the storm flap actually tightens against pocket to make a more secure hold. Obviously different people have different tastes, but I can at least guarantee that whatever we release with shirt pockets will be tested with iPhones.

[Abe1x]

My off-white Rapha V-neck is partly see-through even when dry. I haven't gotten an Outlier merino tee though.

Pretty sure one the Rapha designers once told me they were using something like 90gsm merino, which is insanely light. Most people tend towards 150-160gsm and we use 190gsm in ours. That said the near white is still slightly transparent. No matter what the weight though I would never recommend wearing white merino as anything but an undershirt. It's just not white enough and never will look like a crisp white cotton tee. We've been asking all the merino people for a true white forever but in the end the sheep are sort of yellow colored and nothing can take that away. This isn't a new problem either people have been trying to make whiter wool for centuries... The stuff we are using is whiter than you could get just 3-4 years ago, but all the mills we've talked to seem to have given up on pushing it even further. If they do though we'll certainly be all over it.