SC 47's, Now W/O Pocket Stitching

[cultpop 0217]

im pretty sure you can still get the canes with the back pocket stitching just not from u.s. retailers.

and agree with serge. if levis would just make some kick ass jeans i would gladly buy them. unfortunately the japanese are beating them at their own game. come on guys make a nice heavy jean with repro details (not an exact copy per se) without the distressing, that rivals the quality of the 'canes and we will be all over it.

[sneakeraddict]

Maybe an alternative would be for Levis Japan to just license the Sugar Cane / Toyo company to make all their jeans.

Surely that would satisfy the consumer, and the Jap. repro company's obsessive fanaticism in trying to recreate Levis, but never quite managing it because they cant use the actual details that make Levis, Levis.

I think this would be the best solution.

EDIT: I never really liked this whole 'pastiche / parody' thing of the whole Levis / Lee logos from the repro brands anyway. It looks a bit shit IMO, dunno why they dont just create their own brand logo like Edwin Japan did (and plenty of other Jap. brands that I'm probably not aware of)

[poly800rock]

Maybe an alternative would be for Levis Japan to just license the Sugar Cane / Toyo company to make all their jeans.

Surely that would satisfy the consumer, and the Jap. repro company's obsessive fanaticism in trying to recreate Levis, but never quite managing it because they cant use the actual details that make Levis, Levis.

I think this would be the best solution.

EDIT: I never really liked this whole 'pastiche / parody' thing of the whole Levis / Lee logos from the repro brands anyway. It looks a bit shit IMO, dunno why they dont just create their own brand logo like Edwin Japan did (and plenty of other Jap. brands that I'm probably not aware of)

thats basically like levi's throwing in the towel and saying that everyone makes better jeans than them.

[sneakeraddict]

yeah, but Im pretty sure they dont own the factory that makes their jeans in Japan anyway. (I could be COMPLETELY wrong here)

So they are effectively subcontracting their manufacture anyway, and basically just licensing out their arcuate and red tab, so they might as well subcontract it to one of their most obsessive fans who is passionate about the actual product.

(Kinda like the teacher who allows the class Teacher Pet Geek to wipe the board down at the end of each class, to save her the bother, and also making sure the job to gets done right!!)

[airfrogusmc]

Levis should just make a decent pair of repros so that we don't have to buy Japanese jeans.

They do. Their 555 1920s 201s,37 201s 555, 1886, 1933 501s 555, I have yet to see anyone else do these as well as LVC.

[poly800rock]

yeah, but Im pretty sure they dont own the factory that makes their jeans in Japan anyway. (I could be COMPLETELY wrong here)

So they are effectively subcontracting their manufacture anyway, and basically just licensing out their arcuate and red tab, so they might as well subcontract it to one of their most obsessive fans who is passionate about the actual product.

(Kinda like the teacher who allows the class Teacher Pet Geek to wipe the board down at the end of each class, to save her the bother, and also making sure the job to gets done right!!)

yeah, but the thing is there do have levi's branding in japan, with especially the red loop and the black star which is targeted in that area.

[Ahlvahroe]

I thought that it was only going to be the 47s, and i was wrong. http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_gold/hinoya/rakuten-gazou2006-9/sugarcane/sc40501a/sc40501a-3.jpg

[thinkfilm28]

Dude! What are you on when you write in this thread?

[airfrogusmc]

Cinch is located to low. Nice jeans though. How heavy are they (denim weight) ?

[denimdestroyedmylife]

they are low to accomodate a belt

i love that patch.

sorry don't know the weight

[airfrogusmc]

They need to loose the belt loops also. If they're suppose to be pre 1901s (one pocket) and loose the small pocket tab other than that they look good.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

as usual, sugar cane is just "riffing" off of the classic designs, i believe those jeans fall under their "japan original" banner; they've got the "standard jeans" line for more straight-ahead repros

toyo enterprise has buzz rickson for more classic repros, too

[airfrogusmc]

they are low to accomodate a belt

i love that patch.

sorry don't know the weight

If they were 1920s belt loops the cinch should be higher. Thats the way way original Levis were. If you were to wear a belt the cinch would be under it. No belt loops on those early levis. The two pocket design came in 1901 but there were still no belt loops. Those didn't show up until later.

Heres the correct placemant of the cinch.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

right, gotcha. i'm just saying sugar cane is making these jeans a little friendlier by lowering the cinch and giving the buyer the option of wearing a belt.

they are under no obligation to be historically accurate

[airfrogusmc]

I totally agree with you and I've seen canes and they are great jeans.

I thnk someone made a statement a while back the LVC didn't make good repros or something to that effect. I just said that I haven't seen anyone else making better more authentic 20s 201s 37 201s 33 501s 1880s etc and some posted the canes. They're nice but because of the things I pointed out I'll stick with LVC. Also my advice is search out the 555 stuff.

[sneakeraddict]

OK -Annoying and repetitve question time!!

"One Wash".... Of course, I know what it means, but can i trust that they will NOT shrink anymore since they're factory / one washed?

(By that, I mean significant shrinkage, like more than 1cm perhaps)

P.s. I'm talking bout canes.

Thanks in advance

[airfrogusmc]

I think they say there still could be as much as 3%.

[denimdestroyedmylife]

^ cosign

it will still take a couple washes before even a one-wash jean will reach its final measure; 1 to 3% sounds right

PS i soooo need to try out a 555 LVC

[denimdestroyedmylife]

AIRFROG

those SC's are 14 oz

[cheapmuthafukr]

^ cosign

PS i soooo need to try out a 555 LVC

yeah... more jeans is just what you need LastNightDenimSavedMyLife

[denimdestroyedmylife]

i hate you

[cheapmuthafukr]

p.s. yoko looks like shes looking at me longingly. im getting a bit excited.

[airfrogusmc]

To heavy also. Should 9 or 10 oz.

555 stuff raw does show up but it can get pricey. I picked up a pair of 1933 555s off ebay from Will that posts here that had only been soaked once. GREAT LVCs. The denim is darker than the 33s from a couple years ago.

LVC stuff in my opinion worth finding

1920s 201s 555

1933 501s 555

1937 201s redline 555 better than the 37 501s from a couple of years back.

1886s from last year RAW not the pre-aged stuff. not 555 but the denim is awesome.

[horriblyjollyjinx]

ok, but they are not trying to make a copy of any year's model so it can't be wrong.

[airfrogusmc]

Didn't say it was wrong for you but its not what I'm looking for.

[rnrswitch]

They do. Their 555 1920s 201s,37 201s 555, 1886, 1933 501s 555, I have yet to see anyone else do these as well as LVC.

All of those jeans though, are not made any more. If they still made jeans at valencia I think I would buy them, but I ain't forking over the $400 to grab a pair of dry 555s.

[airfrogusmc]

I grabbed both my 37 201s 555 for $145 for the first pair and 180 for the second. Raw new with tags. I paid 110 for the 20s 201s 555 raw nwot. If you're patient you can find a deal or two. And if you have to spend the dough at least if you get some of those 555 20s 201s its money well spent.

[rnrswitch]

$145 huh? I need to keep my eyes open. The only problem is that my size is fairly common for folks into high end denim (w30). These sizes always gather more $$$ on ebay than the larger sizes. I guess I need to start packin on the pounds.

[synthi]

Wow $145 is a deal. I paid $250 for 555 1937 201's that were brant new with tags. The denim is lovely, such a gorgeous shade of blue. Mmmmm.

[airfrogusmc]

Lately they've been going for $300 +. But sometimes they get listed wrong or less that desireable. Bad phots etc. Thats were you can find the bargain.