The Flat Head 3001

[ashgromnies]

They don't stretch that much, and keep in mind that these jeans shrink an insane amount. i would exchange them for one size up before you soak them.

shiiiit. that's what i get for buying them on supermarket, i'm stuck with the 29s. they're a little too tight still after a week and one cold-water wash and air dry but they have loosened up a bit. still tight enough that the zipper comes undone whenever I sit and the seam twists around to the front though. pisses me off. hoping by continuing to wear them as hard as possible they stretch.

my apcs ns stretched 6 sizes, these don't stretch at all. wasn't aware how much of a difference the heavier denim made

gonna start riding my bike in them, hopefully that will stretch them a bit around the crotch and thighs.

[toufu]

how much does the thigh shrink?

sry if this has been asked

but after skimming, all i've seen is discussion on waist and inseam

lol waist measurement doesnt really bother me, i can squeeze into a 28-32...its all about the thighs man

[Raskol]

i think most people have found that it shrinks about 1 inch from the waist, 3 inches from the inseam and about 0.5 inches everywhere else (which i assume includes the thigh) when you do a hot soak.

[RaymondChiu]

are you sizing up raskol?

[Raskol]

no. i am planning to get my usual size which is a 31.

i was considering sizing down but i was talked out of it.

[tintinsonson]

at least size up 1 or get ur regular size on these 3k1, I am a skinny guy and I felt tight w/ my regular size, I could have gone up 1 and it should be more comfortable.

[griffin]

Just get your normal size. I wear a 29 in everything (27 in APC), including FH3001. They were tight after a soak, but stretched out after about a week. In fact, my Skull 5010xx are also a 29 and I think the waist is tighter (but not the thighs). Don't size up, don't size down, buy your size.

[kubrick]

Ok, this may be a stupid question but how hard is it to re-stich on Arc's on a pair of flatheads? or whatever brand it may be for that matter. Is it even possible or not worth the time?

[dino might]

its possible, but id think itd be terribly tedious. its not worth my time at least.

[wEstSidE]

it's pretty simple if you can sew.

[dino might]

but its not like sewing somthing onto the leg or something, youve got a confined space that youve got to fit your hand and needle in and out of right? that to me would be the aggrevating part.

[Cameland]

The easiest way to do it would be taking the pocket off, but with it being rivited and all, it makes it just that much harder.

[dino might]

The easiest way to do it would be taking the pocket off, but with it being rivited and all, it makes it just that much harder.

see. whatchutalkinbout westside?

[kiya]

Ok, this may be a stupid question but how hard is it to re-stich on Arc's on a pair of flatheads? or whatever brand it may be for that matter. Is it even possible or not worth the time?

Why not just buy the Frontier series?

[alblue]

would a guy with a 6 foot 165 pound build and 33.5" waist and 22" thighs look good in the 3001's? i also have apc new standards tagged size 31 but there is a good inch in the waist of room and i feel i should have gotten the 30's especially since i sag them a bit.

[edmond]

I did a search and I found this thread on the 3001's http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=11207&highlight=flathead+3001 but I don't think anybody in there has posted soaking before and after pictures.

An abundant amount of people on here got this jean now since the Self Edge party so I thought this would be a good idea. (Though me and sidneylo got it the day before. )

I've worn it yesterday and all day today and after all the information I have gotten from people at the party, I've decided to give it a cold soak for about 5 hours.

Its 2 hours into the soak right now, and going to pull it out in another 3.

Size 30x36

waist: 15

inseam: 37

leg opening:7 1/2

thigh: 11 1/2

front rise: 10

back rise: 14

Cold water running.

Asian bucket and 2 1 gallon tropicana orange juice jugs.

Denim bubbles!

I will post the after-soak measurements and the fit of it after its done, this will be edited in a few hours.

EDIT:

Once I took them out I pressed them up against my bathtub wall and went up and down with my hand to try and squeeze out the excess water. Once I took it off the wall the wall was stained with indigo, I tried to wash it off with water but it wouldn't come off.

They are going to be drying until tomorrow morning and once I get up from sleeping I will wear them dry.

Updates soon to come!

hey whered yoou get those flatheads SNM ? how much?

[Cameland]

He got them from self edge.

[dino might]

would a guy with a 6 foot 165 pound build and 33.5" waist and 22" thighs look good in the 3001's? i also have apc new standards tagged size 31 but there is a good inch in the waist of room and i feel i should have gotten the 30's especially since i sag them a bit.

yes he would. i know this because youre just a little bigger than me and i think i look good in them. but DO NOT size down as much as you normally would. go one down at most. a 33 waist id guess would fit nicely

[alblue]

yes he would. i know this because youre just a little bigger than me and i think i look good in them. but DO NOT size down as much as you normally would. go one down at most. a 33 waist id guess would fit nicely

ok cool well thats what im debating about the 32's or the 33's i know the waist of denim always stretches out regardless of how no stretchy it is which is why i think the 32's would be ideal even though everyone says it doesnt stretch much. 2 inches i feel regardless of the stretchiness is easy for denim to stretch out especially over time with constant wear so i think 32's would be perfect but im still not 100% so any input would really help.

[dino might]

the waist would stretch out like youre saying, but the 33s thighs im thinking might be more forgiving. that was the problem i had, so im sizing up when i get my new pair

[sidneylo]

Taking evo pics around the 12th...

[Raskol]

teaser shots

omg, im so excited (3)

[sidneylo]

Last month

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Today, July 12th, 2007 - 5 Months

3 cold soaks, 1 hot soak with agitation, heat dried once

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[newaesthetic]

Sidney, I just want to say that you single-handedly have sold me on the fact that my next pair of indigo raw denim will be some 3001's. Amazing pair you've got there, man.

(I just have to keep telling myself to hold off for a few months, I have enough pairs to work in!)

[dognobbler]

In case anyone is interested I have a pair of unworn Flathead 3001 jeans, waist 34, length 34 for sale on the supermarket, see here

http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?p=545231#post545231

Regards

Andy

[dino might]

im waiting for the F410 bk's..

[jsn]

wow, those really came out nice sidney.

does anybody know if 2nd will ship internationally?

[sidneylo]

Last I checked, as of early May or so, all international Japanese sites have been ordered to cease shipping Flat Head overseas. This goes for a few other brands as well, but I'm not sure whether it's strictly enforced or not.

[julianREE]

just an update on my flatheads, heres the backside (bad pics with flash)

and here's the real reason why i'm posting.

my belt loop broke on friday, which also housed my keys to my car and house.

[chronoaug]

Is that a condom fade

They do look really nice sidney. Makes me wish i wore my pbjs more often and wear them harder.

Alblue- I am also 6ft 160-165lbs. I don't know what you mean by 33.5" waist. I wouldn't measure your waist yourself, but rather measure a pair of jeans that fit you snugly on the waist. When most people say they're a size 32 or 30, they usually mean that's the size that true to size jeans fit them well. I typically wear 32s but can sometimes wear 31s. Jeans will always stretch a little bit, so 31s in raw jeans i don't plan on washing for a couple months at a time usually are what i do. Sometimes if i know i'm not going to wear a pair of jeans that often (like my j lindinberg raws), i buy them in a "true size" 32. I think you are probably selling yourself short (or large i guess) waist wise and would probably be better in a size 32 in flathead 3001(or whatever the new model name is), but i don't know your body or how your shape is. We are pretty much the exact same size, but who knows how similar our body types are.